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Posted: 11/5/2014 5:38:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rb889:
Most standard drop-in handguards that use the delta ring will fit, right? You have an ETA on your own handguards? . We use std polymer mil-spec-style drop in handguards without issue. Aluminum 5.56 drop-ins are not recommended. We are working on our own 308 rails. What threads do you use for the muzzle device? 1/2x28?. The thread for the muzzle is 5/8-24 |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2014 11:54:06 PM EDT
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Will this work with the Aero Precision M5 upper?? anyone know?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2014 3:53:33 AM EDT
[#3]
what is the correct buffer& spring for a standard A2 tube.....on a PA-10
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:27:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BMWBIKR]
[#4]
Maybe this isn't exactly the correct format for this question, but here goes:
I just received my second PA-10 upper.  One for my son and one for me. This one is the 18" SS / 15" Midwest SS G2 handguard with the NiBCG that sold a few weeks ago for $649.99. SKU 503952.
The bolt feels very hard to pull back, like it's binding up when the lugs engage. It' also requires me to press the forward bolt assist to get a good seat. I haven't had a chance to get to the range to test fire it, but am concerned that the headspace might be off (?). I have put a little froglube on it just applying it with my finger. My other Pa-10 had the standard phosphate BCG and is much smoother. I was just thinking that maybe the nickel boron finish might make the bolt fit tighter? I was wondering if I should just fire it and hope to run it in / wear it in, or if I should send it back. Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 12:27:58 PM EDT
[#5]
I have the 16" SS upper with BCG and charging handle on the way.
Just wondering if I hit up the gun show this weekend, Will this upper fit other complete lowers??? |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 12:35:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wildearp]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMWBIKR:
Maybe this isn't exactly the correct format for this question, but here goes: I just received my second PA-10 upper. One for my son and one for me. This one is the 18" SS / 15" Midwest SS G2 handguard with the NiBCG that sold a few weeks ago for $649.99. SKU 503952.
The bolt feels very hard to pull back, like it's binding up when the lugs engage. It' also requires me to press the forward bolt assist to get a good seat. I haven't had a chance to get to the range to test fire it, but am concerned that the headspace might be off (?). I have put a little froglube on it just applying it with my finger. My other Pa-10 had the standard phosphate BCG and is much smoother. I was just thinking that maybe the nickel boron finish might make the bolt fit tighter? I was wondering if I should just fire it and hope to run it in / wear it in, or if I should send it back. Thanks! The coated bolts are tight. (Mine was tight) Lube the shit out of it and proceed with break in. Many new bolts, even uncoated, are tight to some degree. They like to be wet. Headspace isn't even in the picture if you aren't loading a round in the chamber. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMWBIKR:
Maybe this isn't exactly the correct format for this question, but here goes: I just received my second PA-10 upper. One for my son and one for me. This one is the 18" SS / 15" Midwest SS G2 handguard with the NiBCG that sold a few weeks ago for $649.99. SKU 503952.
The bolt feels very hard to pull back, like it's binding up when the lugs engage. It' also requires me to press the forward bolt assist to get a good seat. I haven't had a chance to get to the range to test fire it, but am concerned that the headspace might be off (?). I have put a little froglube on it just applying it with my finger. My other Pa-10 had the standard phosphate BCG and is much smoother. I was just thinking that maybe the nickel boron finish might make the bolt fit tighter? I was wondering if I should just fire it and hope to run it in / wear it in, or if I should send it back. Thanks! All uppers are test fired, but some will need a few rounds for their surfaces to mate up. If you have function issues after several boxes, please contact us for assistance. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:11:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castrolr1:
I have the 16" SS upper with BCG and charging handle on the way. Just wondering if I hit up the gun show this weekend, Will this upper fit other complete lowers??? Perhaps, but we recommend PSA lowers with our uppers. There are too many non-standard variations to answer the question definitively. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By varmitgun:
what is the correct buffer& spring for a standard A2 tube.....on a PA-10 Use a 308 rifle spring and buffer. The 308 spring has more coils and the rifle buffer is shorter than the ar15 variation. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 8:13:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryAll uppers are test fired, but some will need a few rounds for their surfaces to mate up. If you have function issues after several boxes, please contact us for assistance.
Today it's smooth, after just sitting in the box overnight with the lube on the bolt, so whatever it was binding up, is history. Thank you for the quick reply! I appreciate that you take the time to respond to your customers here. I'm a PSA fan and you continue to impress me. 
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Posted: 11/10/2014 2:37:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MBUZICHOMA]
[#11]
Customer Service sent me out a new part. Great service. Thanks
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Posted: 11/11/2014 9:18:32 PM EDT
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What barrel nut/handguard combo is going to fit the PA-10? I am looking for a simple free float tube that will accommodate a bipod and maybe NV in the future. I need something this very minute, not when PSA finally gets something to market.
  This rifle is simply too sweet to leave the standard hand-guards installed.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2014 1:01:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dustyattic]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Use a 308 rifle spring and buffer. The 308 spring has more coils and the rifle buffer is shorter than the ar15 variation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By varmitgun:
what is the correct buffer& spring for a standard A2 tube.....on a PA-10 Use a 308 rifle spring and buffer. The 308 spring has more coils and the rifle buffer is shorter than the ar15 variation. Does PSA sell these two items? Could you provide an item# or link? If not, what is the length and weight of the rifle buffer? I just bought a PA10 midlength kit and stripped lower with collapsible stock, but I want to install a standard A1 rifle stock. I have the stock shell, and I can get a rifle extension anywhere, but I need the proper spring and buffer. I assume the PA10 carbine spring is different than a PA10 rifle spring. ETA: The spring I have is not the 12" 27 coil spring mentioned elsewhere as being correct. It did come with the standard AR15 carbine length H buffer, but the spring has about 39 coils and measures about 12 5/8". Is this the correct spring for the PA10 collapsible stock? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2014 4:56:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dustyattic:
Does PSA sell these two items? Could you provide an item# or link? If not, what is the length and weight of the rifle buffer? I just bought a PA10 midlength kit and stripped lower with collapsible stock, but I want to install a standard A1 rifle stock. I have the stock shell, and I can get a rifle extension anywhere, but I need the proper spring and buffer. I assume the PA10 carbine spring is different than a PA10 rifle spring. ETA: The spring I have is not the 12" 27 coil spring mentioned elsewhere as being correct. It did come with the standard AR15 carbine length H buffer, but the spring has about 39 coils and measures about 12 5/8". Is this the correct spring for the PA10 collapsible stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dustyattic:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By varmitgun:
what is the correct buffer& spring for a standard A2 tube.....on a PA-10 Use a 308 rifle spring and buffer. The 308 spring has more coils and the rifle buffer is shorter than the ar15 variation. Does PSA sell these two items? Could you provide an item# or link? If not, what is the length and weight of the rifle buffer? I just bought a PA10 midlength kit and stripped lower with collapsible stock, but I want to install a standard A1 rifle stock. I have the stock shell, and I can get a rifle extension anywhere, but I need the proper spring and buffer. I assume the PA10 carbine spring is different than a PA10 rifle spring. ETA: The spring I have is not the 12" 27 coil spring mentioned elsewhere as being correct. It did come with the standard AR15 carbine length H buffer, but the spring has about 39 coils and measures about 12 5/8". Is this the correct spring for the PA10 collapsible stock? What they are saying is you need the 3/4" shorter DPMS type 308 rifle buffer and 308 rifle spring. Brownells sells both, PSA doesn't sell either but "they are working on it". Which means buying it at Brownells if you want it soon. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2014 1:05:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dustyattic]
[#15]
According to the specs at Brownell's, the spring that came with my carbine PA10 is a rifle spring. When I insert the carrier and buffer into the tube without the spring, it goes in very slightly deeper than when you do the same with spring included. This indicates that the spring fully compressing is what would stop the carrier, instead of the buffer itself, correct? PSA, please advise.. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2014 3:04:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dustyattic:
According to the specs at Brownell's, the spring that came with my carbine PA10 is a rifle spring. When I insert the carrier and buffer into the tube without the spring, it goes in very slightly deeper than when you do the same with spring included. This indicates that the spring fully compressing is what would stop the carrier, instead of the buffer itself, correct? PSA, please advise.. Notice PSA has been silent for a week concerning this. They are chasing their tails. Bottom line, if you have a 2.5" buffer you have the wrong buffer no matter what spring you are using. If you have a 3 1/4" H buffer you have the right buffer for THEIR longer carbine tube.. Confused yet? |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2014 5:37:05 PM EDT
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I get the feeling this thread was started to publicly answer general questions about the rifle itself, such as "what's the weight?", "Which magazine?" and "Whats the muzzle thread pitch?", etc.. I have learned all I need to know about carbine and rifle buffers, springs, and tubes. I am confident my carbine was shipped with a rifle spring, but I will address this issue via email directly to PSA unless a rep replies here and tells me otherwise. |
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Posted: 11/21/2014 1:09:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
We have our own line of lightweight, and versatile, rails for the PA10 are working on. Check here for the announcements. please tell me one of them is SQR style? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2014 6:04:22 AM EDT
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Just wondering when your PSA PA10 18" SS Slim 308 SS15 upper assemblies will be in stock already have the lower being shipped to my FFL and BTW shipping was very quick faster then people have said just now waiting on that upper to become available so I can get this rolling?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2014 6:16:23 PM EDT
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Note everyone. Rock River NM triggers will not work in this rifle. The hammer can't be depressed enough to allow the bolt to move rearward. I suspect taking a little material off the very top edge of the hammer will solve the problem but, I'll just put the trigger in a different lower. Actually the QMS trigger that came with my kit isn't too bad. 6+# but, no creep or grittiness. I may put JP springs in it to lower the pull a bit. Internet gurus say it works. I have those in the other lower I'll put the RR trigger in.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2014 12:46:00 AM EDT
[#21]
I thought I saw this somewhere but cant seem to find it, or overlooked it. Is the upper a DPMS High receiver height?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2014 1:01:25 AM EDT
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Supposed to be DPMS low.... Though it doesn't play well with other DPMS low parts.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2014 10:07:52 AM EDT
[#23]
I have a DPMS completed upper with DPMS bolt carrier. Can I plug and play this with a PSA 10 lower with PSA parts?
Or in more simple terms, I have a DPMS upper will it work with a PSA lower to make a complete rifle? Thanks |
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USA
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Posted: 11/24/2014 2:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lb6r:
I have a DPMS completed upper with DPMS bolt carrier. Can I plug and play this with a PSA 10 lower with PSA parts? Or in more simple terms, I have a DPMS upper will it work with a PSA lower to make a complete rifle? Thanks Here you go: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/256087_Since_you_guys_keep_asking.html |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2014 6:40:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Thanks, I did a search and didnt find it... Uggh.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2014 11:38:17 PM EDT
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So did we confirm that PA10 upper receiver is compatible with DPMS low height free float rails? I measure from the base of the receiver to the top of the rail to be exactly 2.0 inches so DPMS low makes sense but I wanted to see if anyone had real world experience with this.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:04:20 AM EDT
[#27]
Sorry if this was covered, but what is the OD and length of your pistol buffer tubes used on your complete pistol lowers?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:45:06 PM EDT
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none of your 308 bcg's say they're HPT or MPI... is that the case, that they are not HPT or MPI?
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IN, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2014 12:41:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Will PSA Ar10 lowers work with:
POF uppers? LWRC uppers? Thank you |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2014 12:47:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doodi1:
I wanted to buy a PA10 lower build it the way I want and buy a Primary Weapon Systems Mk 2 upper for it. Will it work with the PWS upper? Would like to know as well! |
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USA
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Posted: 11/30/2014 9:22:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ID-shooting]
[#31]
Question for PSA...
Since we accept that there is no official-sanctioned standard for the AR10 and the PA10 uses some proprietary parts, will you guys be coming out with maintenance/armorer's kits? I would hate to buy LPK's and UPK's (and that still won't get you the small BCG parts) just to have spare parts on hand. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2014 4:50:11 PM EDT
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Hey Palmetto, are you planning to do a mod on the PA10 bolt release so the sharp edge on the top of it doesn't slam into the side of the receiver and cause a permanent cut/nick in the side of the receiver? Two times releasing the bolt is all it took to do damage and the nick gets bigger each time it's pushed. A taper of some sort would prevent the damage or just redesign the thing so it's not so close to the side of the receiver to begin with. It's not a very well thought out design. It's also impossible to install a BAD or Troy lever because of it's poor design. Another example of incomplete product testing.
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Posted: 12/2/2014 8:40:30 AM EDT
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PSA,
I have bought two of these PA-10s, as complete uppers and DIY lower kits. I noticed that one had the short buffer and one has a standard PSA marked "H" buffer. I saw another thread where there was a lot of confusion about this issue. Is there a final word as to what is the correct configuration? (These are 100% PSA PA-10 parts). I haven't fired either yet, and would like to avoid beating up my receiver by using the wrong parts. Thanks! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2014 1:11:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMWBIKR:
PSA, I have bought two of these PA-10s, as complete uppers and DIY lower kits. I noticed that one had the short buffer and one has a standard PSA marked "H" buffer. I saw another thread where there was a lot of confusion about this issue. Is there a final word as to what is the correct configuration? (These are 100% PSA PA-10 parts). I haven't fired either yet, and would like to avoid beating up my receiver by using the wrong parts. Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMWBIKR:
PSA, I have bought two of these PA-10s, as complete uppers and DIY lower kits. I noticed that one had the short buffer and one has a standard PSA marked "H" buffer. I saw another thread where there was a lot of confusion about this issue. Is there a final word as to what is the correct configuration? (These are 100% PSA PA-10 parts). I haven't fired either yet, and would like to avoid beating up my receiver by using the wrong parts. Thanks! This was the replacement they sent from the other thread. Originally Posted By DMark:
Well Here It Is........ The "Correct" H Buffer and the 27 Coils Spring. http://i61.tinypic.com/nltxxk.jpg The beating that my PA10 took with the short buffer is showed on page 2 of this thread. The new 27 coil spring is much stronger than the spring that came with my kit (which I think was a standard carbine spring). The BCG now goes forward into battery with some real authority, much like any normal AR based firearm. Today at the range I put over 100 rounds of M80 ball ammo through the gun. Slow Fire, Controlled Pairs, Rapid Strings of 3-6 shots and the weapon ran without any issues. Extraction was very positive and the cases were ejected to the 3-4 o'clock position 8 to 10 feet away from the weapon. Before heading to the range I used a Sharpie to blacken the areas of the bolt and buffer tube than had shown contact as a result of the short buffer. Happy to report that there was no evidence of any impact of the BCG on the buffer tube using the H Buffer and the 27 coil spring. OH - - - and the Geissele fix for the SSA also works! Happy, Happy...., Joy, Joy! 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2014 1:13:29 PM EDT
[#35]
What is the threading on the barrel nut I have read that since they are not standard that might cause some hand guards to not match up.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2014 4:52:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lapriester:
Hey Palmetto, are you planning to do a mod on the PA10 bolt release so the sharp edge on the top of it doesn't slam into the side of the receiver and cause a permanent cut/nick in the side of the receiver? Two times releasing the bolt is all it took to do damage and the nick gets bigger each time it's pushed. A taper of some sort would prevent the damage or just redesign the thing so it's not so close to the side of the receiver to begin with. It's not a very well thought out design. It's also impossible to install a BAD or Troy lever because of it's poor design. Another example of incomplete product testing. I wrote PSA CS directly about this problem and it seems they are aware of it and they are sending me a new bolt catch with a modified button that corrects the problem. If your receiver is getting dinged like mine was I suggest contacting PSA directly via the contact email address on their Site. |
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Posted: 12/4/2014 9:21:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: my2Dogs]
[#37]
PSA can you please look at my feed ramps and see if they look OK? I purchased a CMMG heavy taper barrel and the lips do not look as smooth as my AR.
ETA : CMMG looking at barrel no need for this to be here. Sorry Thanks Bros |
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Posted: 12/4/2014 9:28:19 PM EDT
[#38]
for sure not optimum, but should run okay
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2014 12:51:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lapriester]
[#39]
As long as the feed ramps on the barrel are lower than those on the receiver they should be fine. If the edge of the barrel ramps are higher the case neck may catch and cause intermittant feed problems. Regardless, if it were mine and I intended using that barrel I'd work the ramps on the receiver to match those on the barrel. It would take very little work with a Dremel.
I will have to say, those are some pretty ugly feed ramps on that barrel. More deeply cut than I think I've ever seen. NOTE!!!! One other thing I would be concerned about. I would call the manufacturer of that barrel ASAP before you have the entire rifle assembled and fire it. Looking more closely at a couple of the pictures it looks like the barrel is not properly timed to the barrel extension. That is unacceptable and could cause the headspace to be incorrectly set or any number of possible function problems. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 1:26:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lapriester: As long as the feed ramps on the barrel are lower than those on the receiver they should be fine. If the edge of the barrel ramps are higher the case neck may catch and cause intermittant feed problems. Regardless, if it were mine and I intended using that barrel I'd work the ramps on the receiver to match those on the barrel. It would take very little work with a Dremel. I will have to say, those are some pretty ugly feed ramps on that barrel. More deeply cut than I think I've ever seen. NOTE!!!! One other thing I would be concerned about. I would call the manufacturer of that barrel ASAP before you have the entire rifle assembled and fire it. Looking more closely at a couple of the pictures it looks like the barrel is not properly timed to the barrel extension. That is unacceptable and could cause the headspace to be incorrectly set or any number of possible function problems. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/5/2014 7:36:28 PM EDT
[#41]
A question. Since PSA has only intermittent availability for ejection port cover kits and forward assists, are those PA10 upper parts the same as DPMS upper parts. I would like to put the stripped PA10 upper I have together but, I'm not sure, based on the problems I had with the lower, if the upper build parts are proprietary parts sized only for a PA10. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2014 2:42:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Hi, any idea when the PSA PA10 Upgrade Kit will be back in stock? It has been out of stock for weeks and is the only thing I need to complete my build. Any news will be greatly appreciated.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2014 9:41:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By justwannabuystuff:
Will PSA Ar10 lowers work with: POF uppers? LWRC uppers? Thank you POF is DPMS but I havent seen anyone try it. But if it will work on other lowers I would assume it would here. LWRC is sr25 and their site says "All LWRCI 7.62mm R.E.P.R. upper receivers will NOT accept a lower receiver other than the LWRCI R.E.P.R. lower receiver. In addition, other manufacturers' 7.62mm AR-10 upper receivers will not function on a LWRCI R.E.P.R. lower receiver" |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 12:05:50 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lapriester:
A question. Since PSA has only intermittent availability for ejection port cover kits and forward assists, are those PA10 upper parts the same as DPMS upper parts. I would like to put the stripped PA10 upper I have together but, I'm not sure, based on the problems I had with the lower, if the upper build parts are proprietary parts sized only for a PA10. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Never mind. Both these were back in stock at PSA and on sale today. Order placed. Thanks PSA for taking the guesswork out of the equation. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 7:12:13 PM EDT
[#45]
I am considering building a PTAC Tac-10 lower and want to build it as a pistol which buffer tube do i use and any upper suggestions?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 8:09:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Talons:
I see that your builds use the MI SS series free float. Do you guys build it with the .210 or .150 upper tang model of this hand guard? I want to know this too. My PSA 5.56 upper has a MI rail. Love it so far and would like one on the AR10. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2014 8:29:00 PM EDT
[#47]
What about gas system parts? Are they interchangeable with the AR15? When will they be available for sale?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2014 10:54:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: surplusleo]
[#48]
So I appear to have correct spring and buffer (h buffer and 27 coil spring ) but the rifle still won't go into battery. I am running a rifle tube with a Magpul PRS stock if that changes things...also using a Pmag 20 the bolt will go forward the round will seat but bolt is 1/4" out of battery and bolt assist does not help...
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Posted: 12/12/2014 10:57:00 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By surplusleo:
So I appear to have correct spring and buffer (h buffer and 27 coil spring ) but the rifle still won't go into battery. I am running a rifle tube with a Magpul PRS stock if that changes things... im pretty sure the rifle spings are longer? that would most likely cause it not to go into battery |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2014 4:08:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lapriester]
[#50]
You are running the wrong buffer AND spring in a rifle tube. You are running a Carbine H buffer and a Carbine length spring. You need to be running a DPMS style 308 rifle buffer and a DPMS style 308 rifle buffer spring in a rifle tube. Until you do the rifle will never close to battery at all or very inconsistently. It could also cause a fire out of battery so I suggest running the correct components before you continue to shoot the rifle.
This: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-buffers/rifle-buffer-prod42989.aspx (5.285" long, 5.4oz) And this: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-springs/ar-style-308-buffer-spring-prod32506.aspx ( Part 9215, 12.5" long) |
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