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ME, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2023 11:10:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: That sucks. What are you going to use to polish the chamber? Will probably do mine as well, as I have nothing to lose at this point. Any tips, tricks, or product recommendations happily accepted as I've never polished a chamber. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I am leaning towards just polishing the chamber and seeing if that works. I'm thinking it is just a chamber coefficient of friction issue since this is basically a lever delayed blowback. The bad barrel I have is one of the "chameleon" pvd finish barrels but it unfortunately came with some surface rust and upon further inspection the chamber has some surface rust inside as well which is all starting to make sense. Sucks to pay extra to get a rusty barrel. That sucks. What are you going to use to polish the chamber? Will probably do mine as well, as I have nothing to lose at this point. Any tips, tricks, or product recommendations happily accepted as I've never polished a chamber. If you have a variable speed rotary tool, that is the way to go. Just use a little Flitz or some other polishing compound and a bullet point polishing tip. Start slow and take it easy. It's not difficult. I won't have time to do it today but might be able to post some pics tomorrow if that's helpful. |
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Posted: 4/4/2023 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: If you have a variable speed rotary tool, that is the way to go. Just use a little Flitz or some other polishing compound and a bullet point polishing tip. Start slow and take it easy. It's not difficult. I won't have time to do it today but might be able to post some pics tomorrow if that's helpful. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I am leaning towards just polishing the chamber and seeing if that works. I'm thinking it is just a chamber coefficient of friction issue since this is basically a lever delayed blowback. The bad barrel I have is one of the "chameleon" pvd finish barrels but it unfortunately came with some surface rust and upon further inspection the chamber has some surface rust inside as well which is all starting to make sense. Sucks to pay extra to get a rusty barrel. That sucks. What are you going to use to polish the chamber? Will probably do mine as well, as I have nothing to lose at this point. Any tips, tricks, or product recommendations happily accepted as I've never polished a chamber. If you have a variable speed rotary tool, that is the way to go. Just use a little Flitz or some other polishing compound and a bullet point polishing tip. Start slow and take it easy. It's not difficult. I won't have time to do it today but might be able to post some pics tomorrow if that's helpful. I would welcome any pics and pointers you're willing to provide. Wouldn't likely get to it in a week or two anyway, so no rush on my end. |
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Posted: 4/4/2023 11:55:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I would welcome any pics and pointers you're willing to provide. Wouldn't likely get to it in a week or two anyway, so no rush on my end. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I am leaning towards just polishing the chamber and seeing if that works. I'm thinking it is just a chamber coefficient of friction issue since this is basically a lever delayed blowback. The bad barrel I have is one of the "chameleon" pvd finish barrels but it unfortunately came with some surface rust and upon further inspection the chamber has some surface rust inside as well which is all starting to make sense. Sucks to pay extra to get a rusty barrel. That sucks. What are you going to use to polish the chamber? Will probably do mine as well, as I have nothing to lose at this point. Any tips, tricks, or product recommendations happily accepted as I've never polished a chamber. If you have a variable speed rotary tool, that is the way to go. Just use a little Flitz or some other polishing compound and a bullet point polishing tip. Start slow and take it easy. It's not difficult. I won't have time to do it today but might be able to post some pics tomorrow if that's helpful. I would welcome any pics and pointers you're willing to provide. Wouldn't likely get to it in a week or two anyway, so no rush on my end. https://www.ar15.com/forums/precision-rifles/Hellbender-s-a-k-a-Lostinthewoods-Guide-to-the-Ultimate-AR-fixed-/4-6919/ Part 4 of the above thread. |
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Posted: 4/4/2023 2:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I am leaning towards just polishing the chamber and seeing if that works. I'm thinking it is just a chamber coefficient of friction issue since this is basically a lever delayed blowback. The bad barrel I have is one of the "chameleon" pvd finish barrels but it unfortunately came with some surface rust and upon further inspection the chamber has some surface rust inside as well which is all starting to make sense. Sucks to pay extra to get a rusty barrel. If you would like me to get you taken care of, please PM me. Thanks, Josiah |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2023 4:25:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: If you would like me to get you taken care of, please PM me. Thanks, Josiah Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I am leaning towards just polishing the chamber and seeing if that works. I'm thinking it is just a chamber coefficient of friction issue since this is basically a lever delayed blowback. The bad barrel I have is one of the "chameleon" pvd finish barrels but it unfortunately came with some surface rust and upon further inspection the chamber has some surface rust inside as well which is all starting to make sense. Sucks to pay extra to get a rusty barrel. If you would like me to get you taken care of, please PM me. Thanks, Josiah Josiah, I appreciate it man, I'm just going to try to polish these out and if that doesn't work I'll send it your way. I would suggest taking a look at your coating operations and see if you are missing a wash or treatment step or something, these came right out of the package with a surprising amount of rust.   |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2023 10:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1: I've run an RMR without issue. The General rule of thumb is 1.2-1.3oz with optics and 5.7 guns. If you run only 195/198 you might get away with an SRO. This has been common knowledge on 5.7 guns for 10+ yrs. Last weekend I tested a 507 using the adapter plate on my Rock in conjunction with an RSP suppressor. Was cycling fine even with AE ammo. |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 10:04:12 PM EDT
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Well sadly even after polishing the chamber, the threaded barrel didn't cycle. Sad.
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Posted: 4/9/2023 11:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Well sadly even after polishing the chamber, the threaded barrel didn't cycle. Sad. Again, if you would like me to help you out just PM me. Thank you, Josiah |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:20:43 PM EDT
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PSA is shipping mine back now. Here is their evaluation: "thick grease lubricant used. due to tight tolerances recommend liquid lubricant like CLP. cleaned and re-lubricated, no malfunctions."
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:13:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaspain: PSA is shipping mine back now. Here is their evaluation: "thick grease lubricant used. due to tight tolerances recommend liquid lubricant like CLP. cleaned and re-lubricated, no malfunctions." What kind of lube were you using? I always wipe down a new gun and use a conservative amount of CLP or Hoppes no9, then hand cycle a couple hundred times (and dry fire if it's safe for that particular gun.) |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:25:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: What kind of lube were you using? I always wipe down a new gun and use a conservative amount of CLP or Hoppes no9, then hand cycle a couple hundred times (and dry fire if it's safe for that particular gun.) X-1R gun grease, old stuff. I use it on 1911's. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:47:42 PM EDT
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I pretty much use motor oil :D
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Posted: 4/13/2023 7:03:23 PM EDT
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I wonder what ammo they used to test fire.
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Posted: 4/18/2023 12:56:18 AM EDT
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Got my Rock back today from PSA. They cleaned my grease out and can confirm it works now. Thanks PSA!
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NE, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2023 6:38:04 PM EDT
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I bought the 507c for my rock and knowing about the screws being to long I took the slid off and apart and installed the screws to see how long they were. About 2.5 to 3 threads and cut them with a wire stripper/screw cutter then reinstalled rmr plate then the 507c.
 
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Posted: 5/21/2023 8:37:28 PM EDT
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I installed my Holosun and took my 5.7 Rock to the range today. Quickly zeroed and it shot great. 150 rounds of American Eagle with no malfunctions. I’ll probably run another 150 rounds or so before I test it with Gold Dots. If it cycles the Gold Dots, this will be my new nightstand gun.
For anyone curious, this pistol feels great in the hand, is accurate, and has low recoil. I was very impressed. |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 6:10:27 PM EDT
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Here's the question again, anyone have some ideas on non-paddle OWB Kydex holsters for the Rock?
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Posted: 6/6/2023 10:00:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: Here's the question again, anyone have some ideas on non-paddle OWB Kydex holsters for the Rock? Nerd holsters. A lot of generic G17 and Ruger 57 holsters also fit. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2023 12:21:03 PM EDT
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On the PSA forum, a member just posted that he’s going to use a Kydex OWB holster from Muddy River Tactical as he’s used their holsters before and likes them. https://muddyrivertactical.com/product/outside-waistband-kydex-holster/. I checked their website and the Rock is listed in their drop down menu as being one of the pistols supported.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:13:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: luv_the_huskers]
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FTA Holsters has both IWB and OWB available in several different Kydex choices. They fit both the threaded and non-threaded versions, right handed or left, suppressor height sights, sweat shield, and have an adjustable tension. I know nothing about them but they agreed to make me an OWB with belt loops for a non-threaded in Tiger Stripe camo. I will let you know.
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WV, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2023 3:39:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PAESAN]
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Posted: 6/21/2023 7:46:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
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Still looking for a blem slide with Rmr/Holosun cut and threaded barrel
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Posted: 6/21/2023 11:25:56 PM EDT
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@palmettoStateArmory
Am I missing Rock barrels sold separately? Seems you seek slides without barrels… Got a link for just threaded barrels? |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 10:12:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: @palmettoStateArmory Am I missing Rock barrels sold separately? Seems you seek slides without barrels… Got a link for just threaded barrels? https://palmettostatearmory.com/palmetto-5-7-rock/parts.html |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 11:40:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: @palmettoStateArmory Am I missing Rock barrels sold separately? Seems you seek slides without barrels… Got a link for just threaded barrels? Here they are. https://palmettostatearmory.com/palmetto-5-7-rock/parts.html Thanks, Josiah |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 12:32:24 PM EDT
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Thanks guys
Website wasn’t terribly intuitive for me last night |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 4:24:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2023 6:34:33 PM EDT
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2023 3:47:31 PM EDT
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@PalmettoStateArmory
Will you guys be offing a package like this, but with night sights in the future? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-7-rock-complete-rk1-optics-ready-pistol-with-stainless-non-threaded-barrel-lower-1-3-day-sights-10-magazines-psa-pistol-case-two-tone-grey-frame.html I.E. This gun, 10 mags, and case? Currently you offer 7 packages with the Rock. 6 of them are threaded barrels and day sights, and one with non threaded barrel, with day dights. Nothing with night sights. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:37:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stitches1974: @PalmettoStateArmory Will you guys be offing a package like this, but with night sights in the future? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-7-rock-complete-rk1-optics-ready-pistol-with-stainless-non-threaded-barrel-lower-1-3-day-sights-10-magazines-psa-pistol-case-two-tone-grey-frame.html I.E. This gun, 10 mags, and case? Currently you offer 7 packages with the Rock. 6 of them are threaded barrels and day sights, and one with non threaded barrel, with day dights. Nothing with night sights. I will send the suggestion up the chain of command. Thanks, Josiah |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2023 12:16:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: I will send the suggestion up the chain of command. Thanks, Josiah Thank you! |
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Posted: 7/9/2023 11:46:58 AM EDT
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Does anyone know if the back plate on the 5.7 Rock slide can be replaced with a different (Glock) one? I haven't watched all the You-tube videos about this gun yet, but I'm guessing that it is a proprietary design. I would like to install a "Tac-rack" slide racker version, if possible.
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Posted: 7/10/2023 12:43:30 AM EDT
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It's different :D
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Posted: 7/10/2023 10:35:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zebfishzap: Does anyone know if the back plate on the 5.7 Rock slide can be replaced with a different (Glock) one? I haven't watched all the You-tube videos about this gun yet, but I'm guessing that it is a proprietary design. I would like to install a "Tac-rack" slide racker version, if possible. They are different/proprietary on the Rock. Thanks, Josiah |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2023 1:13:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pencilvesterr]
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Anyone have any suggestions for getting a rock to cycle with a supressor?
Running just a 507K, I've had the occasional failure. Figured it was just break in, seems to have gone away. I've put about 200ish rounds thru it. Running with the 507k/DA Mask it refused to cycle. Slow mo video seems make me think it's not cycling far enough back. I've seen a few say the Mask might be too heavy? Ammo tried so far: FN SS197SR Fiocchi Range Dynamics 40grFMJ Appreciate it |
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Posted: 7/24/2023 3:59:43 PM EDT
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That should be more than light enough to work. I'm able to shoot an 8oz can on my Rock with an RDS without issue. perhaps the DA mask has too much back pressure and is causing an issue?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2023 10:02:25 PM EDT
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A poster on the PSA forum just commented “I run the Dead Air Mask HD on mines and she slaps like a cap gun lol. Still loud but very easy on the ears without ear pro. Trijicon suppressor height night sights and holosun (407K) clear it with no problem “.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2023 10:09:49 PM EDT
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I ordered my Rock as a bunch of parts a few weeks ago (slide w/standard barrel, frame, 3 mags and a SS threaded barrel). It took about a week to get everything in, so I’ve been racking and dry firing for about 2 weeks. Lubed it up with Mobil 1 5w20 full synthetic Finally got it to the range yesterday, first 3 shots had me worried, didn’t eject. Almost, but not quite. From the 4th shot on, ran like a dream. As accurate as I am, barely any recoil, loads of fun.
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Posted: 7/28/2023 8:51:57 PM EDT
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My son bought one a few weeks ago. Shot it last weekend. Super fun. The noise signature just totally clashes with the recoil. We all kind of laughed. Now I have to get one and a LC Carbine.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2023 5:54:40 PM EDT
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My FFL told me that I can meet my new addition tomorrow. It's a "blem" Rock with the RK1 cut and a threaded barrel. It will also be my first firearm in Flat Earth. From what I can see on the PSA website, slides with the RK1 option also have slide lightening cutouts. Anybody have firsthand experience with this slide? Do the cutouts improve extraction? I will be mounting a Holosun HS407K on it. While the Holosun website currently does not show this sight is available in Flat Earth, I found one on line. I plan to purchase an OWB Flat Earth holster for it. Now if I can just find Flat Earth shoes and matching range bag, as ZZ Top sang, I'll be a sharp dressed man. And if you believe ZZ Top, "Girls go crazy for a sharp dressed man."
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Posted: 8/29/2023 9:21:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By confused: My FFL told me that I can meet my new addition tomorrow. It's a "blem" Rock with the RK1 cut and a threaded barrel. It will also be my first firearm in Flat Earth. From what I can see on the PSA website, slides with the RK1 option also have slide lightening cutouts. Anybody have firsthand experience with this slide? Do the cutouts improve extraction? I will be mounting a Holosun HS407K on it. While the Holosun website currently does not show this sight is available in Flat Earth, I found one on line. I plan to purchase an OWB Flat Earth holster for it. Now if I can just find Flat Earth shoes and matching range bag, as ZZ Top sang, I'll be a sharp dressed man. And if you believe ZZ Top, "Girls go crazy for a sharp dressed man." |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 9:45:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1: The RK1 slide is the same weight if not heavier than the standard slide. It's 100000% aesthetics Good to know. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2023 12:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1: The RK1 slide is the same weight if not heavier than the standard slide. It's 100000% aesthetics I'm not an engineer but if you have two slides with the same dimensions and the slide with holes in it weighs more than a slide without holes there must be more metal in other parts of that slide. What am I missing? |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 2:12:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By confused: I'm not an engineer but if you have two slides with the same dimensions and the slide with holes in it weighs more than a slide without holes there must be more metal in other parts of that slide. What am I missing?I |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2023 2:51:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: confused]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1: I'll gladly weigh them for you. What I'm saying is those milled ports are all for looks and offer no performance gains or loses in theory.. I'm not doubting you. I'm just guessing that the weight distribution must be different between the two slides. If you have both slides you might want to balance each on a knife edge. Then with a caliper measure the distance from the knife edge to the end of each slide. I'm thinking that the center of gravity has moved. The weight loss in the front of the slide has to be made up in the slide's rear section. Thus the CG has moved aft in the RK1 slide. Whether this affects performance I have no idea. Oh, and I pick up my Rock in about two hours. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:44:44 AM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2023 1:43:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Ordered. I’ve had a frame in the safe for months - maybe from Memorial Day? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4258_jpeg-2937057.JPG How does your slide differ from the RK1 optics ready slide? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2023 2:07:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: County804]
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On the PSA Forum, Russerman weighed all of the three types of Rock slides.The regular slide without the optics cut, the standard optics cut slide and the RK1 optics cut slide ( in the Rock Topic “ Rock Measurements “ ). Here are the weights he posted
“  He also posted photos of the three types of slides. The standard optics cut slide has cutouts on the inside of the front sides of the slide where the cutouts on the RK1 slide are located. The RK1 does not have these cutouts. Apparently because that would make the risers between the cutout windows so thin they might develop cracks from recoil stress. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2023 3:19:01 AM EDT
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Do you know if the mounting plates are identical between the optics ready slide and the RK1 slide? Thanks for pointing to the measurements data on the PSA Forum
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:21:59 AM EDT
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I have both types of optics cut slides and the mounting plates appear to be identical.
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