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Just thinking today when doing some maintenance on my Block II, and a question popped in my head. Hoping someone can answer this:
Why were two different RIS II’s pushed up the chain as far as the Block II M4 goes? Normal military procurement for items is generally strict and one thing is chosen. Also, Which came first (if either)? FSP, non? Which were more commonly seen? |
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Glitch
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God will not look you over for medals, diplomas, or degrees – but for scars
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Stupid glitch
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Fsp ris ii came first then non fsp came later. At least that was my experience in our group.
The fsp could be retrofitted on the block 1 and later when the rifles needed new barrels, the non fsb and low pro gas blocks were available. |
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Originally Posted By Super_Trouper: Just thinking today when doing some maintenance on my Block II, and a question popped in my head. Hoping someone can answer this: Why were two different RIS II’s pushed up the chain as far as the Block II M4 goes? Normal military procurement for items is generally strict and one thing is chosen. Also, Which came first (if either)? FSP, non? Which were more commonly seen? View Quote Both were adopted at the same time. USASFC (United States Army Special Forces Command under USASOC/SOCOM) thought they could save some money by reusing the existing barrel on the gun hence the FSB model and they preferred the FSB for a front sight. Rest of SOCOM went with the non FSB M4 RIS II. Thats why guys in Groups received the FSBs first. |
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Did the NSW DMR Block II’s use government or SOCOM profile barrels?
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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Originally Posted By tanodized: Question for @Combat_Diver Do you recall if the "14" and "1000XXXX" Crane serialized uppers were exclusively Colt? Or had you seen any FN, MSI, or Demco engraved that way? Thanks! https://i.imgur.com/THRjA7G.jpeg View Quote Sorry, I do not. Didn't bother to look or take pictures on both sides. But all pre cage code USGI uppers. |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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13.7 Noveske Far from a clone. Im yrs out of the game but i do enjoy this shorter profile. I presume it’s as short as you can go on a RISII if using a suppressor…. Maybe 13.5 but I don’t know who makes that. |
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Dawgs!!!!
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Tearing down this M4A1 MWS to put on DD RIS II M4A1 FSB
Attached File Disassemble, remove gas tube and then punch out taper pins Attached File Drop parts into solvent tank and remove carbon Attached File |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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Set out new parts
Attached File Apply molybdenum disulfide to receiver threads and Torque barrel nut to 55 lbs x3. Use thickest barrel wrench Attached File Attached File |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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Pin gas tube to FSB and insert assembly into handguard and slide onto barrel and drive taper pins back into FSB/barrel
Attached File Add something to agline upper/HG as you screw in 5/32” screws Attached File Attach bottom rail and side screws. Attach flash hinder, A2 today as individual not issued suppressor Attached File |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Now that's cool.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/IMG_7678_jpeg-3150829_jpeg-3150845.JPG View Quote I haven't even taken mine out of the plastic bag yet, and I got it last summer. I want mine laser engraved with my name. lol |
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Originally Posted By slowkota1: I haven't even taken mine out of the plastic bag yet, and I got it last summer. I want mine laser engraved with my name. lol View Quote That's one of the original prototype wrenches for testing. The newer ones have a different radius on the outer edge. Send Classified Defense an email. They'll mark whatever you want on a wrench. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Pin gas tube to FSB and insert assembly into handguard and slide onto barrel and drive taper pins back into FSB/barrel https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_7681_jpeg-3150832.JPG View Quote Looks great! Did you reuse the same taper pins? |
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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Originally Posted By 4runnagunna: That's one of the original prototype wrenches for testing. The newer ones have a different radius on the outer edge. Send Classified Defense an email. They'll mark whatever you want on a wrench. View Quote @4runnagunna Can go back earlier in development. Used this one the most. Its at home now. Attached File |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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IG @bayou_bengal-rifles
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_5836_jpeg-3159965.JPG View Quote Not always a fan of the PRS-style stocks, but that just looks right at home on that setup. |
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Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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This is a shot in the dark, does anyone have pics or a resource on the RIS II trial rifles? I have seen the ones from SHOT Show 2006, some stickman took of the early DD RIS II, and then one was sold on gunbroker a while back.
Trying to figure out what the setup for the trials rifles would have been. I found something cool and would like to give it it's due. |
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Hopefully I’m doing this right lol. My first post on here but have been lurking since late 2016. I have had several clones (M4A1 block 2, CQBR & URGI) I always go back to the block 2 M4A1 and finally got a Colt Socom M4A1 Property marked rifle. I always try to build my clones as issued and add personal touches as I go. Really love the FSP build I got but Just wanted to say thanks to all for the good reads, awesome builds and thanks to @Combat_Diver for all the uploads and confirmations. I have 0 clue on how to post photos of my build but I will figure it out eventually
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Originally Posted By Sbox197: Link to my Post in military ar clones thread on Reddit. View Quote Perfection! Sorry to see you're a lefty, my condolences lol I really need to try an Elcan one of these days. Wish someone local had one. |
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Yeah it can be a pain sometimes but it’s all good! Nice build! I had a Tango 6T and found that I’m not all that efficient with LPVO’s. I shoot my clones only primarily as they double as my SHTF rifle (lol). I found that the Elcan has great eye relief and is easy and quick to use for CQB. Also, thanks for the reply!
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Originally Posted By Sbox197: Link to my Post in military ar clones thread on Reddit. View Quote I've found the easiest way to upload w/o a membership is posting a link from IMGUR imo. I do think it's time to move away from the NSW DMR and onto something more Attached File |
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IG @bayou_bengal-rifles
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: Nice build! Enjoyed seeing it over there. I've found the easiest way to upload w/o a membership is posting a link from IMGUR imo. I do think it's time to move away from the NSW DMR and onto something more https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_6033_jpeg-3175727.JPG View Quote I was all about going the NSW route... But I just ordered a 15.1" Lilja Recce barrel, so going to build an NSW RIS II upper. So with this one, ditch the lpvo and go Elcan or ACOG, with a heavy lean towards the Elcan. |
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
MI, USA
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: I don’t know what to do with this thing…razor 1-6 or mk5 3.6-18? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/462226/IMG_2090_jpeg-3176823.JPG View Quote Yes, but with a little more emphasis on the Mk5. |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: I don’t know what to do with this thing…razor 1-6 or mk5 3.6-18? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/462226/IMG_2090_jpeg-3176823.JPG View Quote Razor gen 3 or atacr. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: I don’t know what to do with this thing…razor 1-6 or mk5 3.6-18? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/462226/IMG_2090_jpeg-3176823.JPG View Quote Razor would be titties on there. |
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Got mostly together. Surefire is in the mail. There’s a few things I still need.
I have to decide on a more correct scope mount. I’m probably going to go with a KAC rear sight. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By -Ascent-: Got mostly together. Surefire is in the mail. There’s a few things I still need. I have to decide on a more correct scope mount. I’m probably going to go with a KAC rear sight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0288_jpeg-3176867.JPG View Quote There can only be one! JK... If I did it over again, I'd go Badger C1 in 1.7" height... I don't think I've seen pics of a PST 1-6 with the C1 ITW but I'm not an autist lmao |
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Originally Posted By slowkota1: There can only be one! https://i.imgur.com/5itjevt.jpeg JK... If I did it over again, I'd go Badger C1 in 1.7" height... I don't think I've seen pics of a PST 1-6 with the C1 ITW but I'm not an autist lmao View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By slowkota1: Originally Posted By -Ascent-: Got mostly together. Surefire is in the mail. There’s a few things I still need. I have to decide on a more correct scope mount. I’m probably going to go with a KAC rear sight. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0288_jpeg-3176867.JPG There can only be one! https://i.imgur.com/5itjevt.jpeg JK... If I did it over again, I'd go Badger C1 in 1.7" height... I don't think I've seen pics of a PST 1-6 with the C1 ITW but I'm not an autist lmao That’s the one I’ve been looking at. Looks damn good! Do you know if there’s a red dot mount for the upper part of the front mount? Edit: Damn the badger c1 looks nice. |
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Originally Posted By slowkota1: There can only be one! https://i.imgur.com/5itjevt.jpeg JK... If I did it over again, I'd go Badger C1 in 1.7" height... I don't think I've seen pics of a PST 1-6 with the C1 ITW but I'm not an autist lmao View Quote The badger 1.7 or a reptilla 1.7 is the way to go. I l9ve the 1.7 badgers I have.. Btw if anyone needs a 1.53 badger in tan, I have a spare laying around. Mounted the razor gen 3 then swapped out for a 1.7. Never made it out to the range. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: I don’t know what to do with this thing…razor 1-6 or mk5 3.6-18? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/462226/IMG_2090_jpeg-3176823.JPG View Quote Mk6... Or I guess mk5 heh |
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Originally Posted By slowkota1: I have the Reptilia corp RMR ring cap mount on mine. https://i.imgur.com/7cvRIk7.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By slowkota1: Originally Posted By -Ascent-: That’s the one I’ve been looking at. Looks damn good! Do you know if there’s a red dot mount for the upper part of the front mount? Edit: Damn the badger c1 looks nice. I have the Reptilia corp RMR ring cap mount on mine. https://i.imgur.com/7cvRIk7.jpg That is perfect. Looks really good. |
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