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I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build
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Originally Posted By Russ4777: Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Russ4777: Originally Posted By wesmerc: I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Seems doable to me - something like carbon upper, polymer lower, pistol barrel (maybe) ... if you switch calibers you can eliminate the gas block and tube and maybe even buffer weight.
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. Is that an M&P Sport upper? |
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Originally Posted By hummeriah:
Is that an M&P Sport upper? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hummeriah:
Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By Russ4777:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
I am setting a goal of 4.5 lbs for my build Pretty lofty goal unless its a pistol. You are going to need a pistol length barrel to get that light. Not necessarily, here is a 4.5 lb build using a 16" .625 barrel standard front sight base and standard handguards. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Picture006.jpg If he goes 14.5" with a permanently attached muzzle device to bring it to 16", goes with a lightweight handguard. And a few other mods it's easily do able. Is that an M&P Sport upper? Ahhh, no. I "cheated", it's a plastic upper receiver. And yes, the receiver is a POS. |
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So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle. Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs?
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Originally Posted By GoldenStatePrepz:
So.. I don't plan to hike 50 miles with my rifle. Am I a bad person for preferring my rifle to weigh more than 6lbs? View Quote No... but I wouldn't post it in this thread. There are plenty of other places to discuss rifles over six pounds, and even a "heavyweights" picture and discussion thread. This thread is for discussing ultra-lights. I'd venture to guess that almost every poster in this thread has at least one other rifle which weighs over six pounds as well. ~Augee |
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What grip is that and what does it weigh?
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Its a magpul moe-k.
Have to get back with you on the weight |
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Cool rifle, 57fairlane, but way too much front sight post :D
I see you cut away a lot of it, post some pics of the areas you lightened. |
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Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! View Quote Your sight is on backwards...... |
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Any idea how much my new build will weigh...approx?
Noveske factory Gen 1 upper 14.5" skinny bbl perm attached AAC NM Magpul mid length hand guards Magpul MBUS gen 2 rear sight Noveske gen 1 lower Magpul MOE grip Magpul CTR Would this be considered "light"? It will be the lightest rifle I have by far. |
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Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Your sight is on backwards...... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Your sight is on backwards...... Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiotbut its fixed now, thanks! |
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Originally Posted By JCatt:
Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiotbut its fixed now, thanks! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JCatt:
Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/Family%20stuff/lightweight.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Your sight is on backwards...... Pro tip of the day. I feel like and idiotbut its fixed now, thanks! No problem man. looks really good regardless. |
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I already wanted to do a lightweight build for my rifle. I have the mag tactical lower in FDE and an Upper on order also FDE. already put in a Daniel Defense LPK. and I believe Ill be going with the Battle link Minimalist stock. Havent decided on a hand guard but really want a 13-15" with top rail. I know that will add to my weight but I like the site longer radius. will be going with a 16" barrel because I want to keep the ability to change flash suppressors easily and will be adding a silencer if Ohios Silencer Hunting laws go through.
Back to the point this thread and the FDE thread will make me put this rifle together faster than Ill want to. Thanks guys. |
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Originally Posted By ajclune:
I already wanted to do a lightweight build for my rifle. I have the mag tactical lower in FDE and an Upper on order also FDE. already put in a Daniel Defense LPK. and I believe Ill be going with the Battle link Minimalist stock. Havent decided on a hand guard but really want a 13-15" with top rail. I know that will add to my weight but I like the site longer radius. will be going with a 16" barrel because I want to keep the ability to change flash suppressors easily and will be adding a silencer if Ohios Silencer Hunting laws go through. Back to the point this thread and the FDE thread will make me put this rifle together faster than Ill want to. Thanks guys. View Quote Isn't a milspec stock lighter than the Battle Link stock? What is the lightest stock available? |
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I know that's what the manufacturer claims on the product page, but it says under 6 ounces. There are numerous stocks for the AR that are under 6 ounces. So, if it is the lightest, what does it weigh? CAR Fiberlite stock body = 4.6 oz Colt 6920 M4 (gen 4) stock body = 5.7 oz (w/o metal sling mount) |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section? |
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Originally Posted By KingRat:
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Originally Posted By noob5000000:
Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By noob5000000:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. Old post, but what does this mean? Shortened stock section? Chopping a Cav Arms lower tutorial |
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Ah, I see. Thanks.
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Originally Posted By KingRat:
Huff some gasoline, then do an interpretive finger painting of the Spanish Civil War on your living room walls. |
Originally Posted By JCatt: 5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! View Quote Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts.
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts. Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are? |
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It saves some weight and makes a nice compact package for a non sbr. Measured it vs. another 14.5 with the same flash hider and the ultra compact equipped rifle is 29 3/4 versus right at 32 with a B5 sopmod.
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Originally Posted By Nada-Nada:
Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Nada-Nada:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By JCatt:
5 lbs 11 oz. Not the lightest thing in the world, but a lot of the items I already had and decided to put together something light. http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/CattJ/unfail.jpg DD 14.5 pencil barrel, Tactial Innovations upper & lower, LWRC ultra compact stock kit. I'm happy with how it turned out! Nice, on my Geissele I am changing out my 13MK4 with a 9.5MK4 and adding the Ultra compact kit instead of LWRC compact to save even more weight on my lightweight. Love the compacts/ ultra compacts. Do you know what the weight of these those LWRC stocks are? I didn't weigh the stock itself but can if you want. I swapped a Vltor tube, H buffer, spring, and M4 stock it weighed 17.4oz total and the LWRC ultra compact kit was 16.4. If you compared a standard carbine buffer it would be closer to 2 oz of savings, plus a compact package. |
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Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not...
Daniel Defense 14.5" barrel BCM low profile gas block MI SSK 12" handguard So far pretty light... |
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Would you the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? You cannot penalize this moment, in my life. Show me how the peeps kill.
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
You do. No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By djkest:
Working on a lightweight build right now. Going to be really close to 6 lbs. I am still debating if I want to lose the FA or not... You do. No FA and JP LMOS is a sweet combo. +1. The JP is a work of art, and the FA is worthless with the lightweight BCGs. |
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Check this out:
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/combo-sets/ar15-matched-stripped-receiver-set-no-forward-assist.html It's even a really good deal, and in stock as well. My only concern is that I want the AR to be 100% reliable. Okay, 99.5% reliable. But I can't remember the last time I used a forward assist. Granted, I don't shoot as much as I'd like. And the JP is out of the question for me. But 6 lbs is achievable without it. |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg View Quote Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. |
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Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. |
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Originally Posted By djkest:
I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. Yes more pics |
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I think there are really 3 main areas where you can "blow it" as far as weight is concerned if you goal is a 6 lb rifle.
1) Barrel 2) Handguard 3) Buttstock I see a lot of billet uppers/lowers but I think all of those (with the exception of mag tac) are going to add some weight. |
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Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below!
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Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! View Quote If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. |
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Oh man. I just looked at the 13" one on their website. So super cool. I do love the Wilson but I might be able to be persuaded with the Bravo Company piece! It's out of stock but I signed up for in-stock notification. Gives me time to think about it, hahaha!
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Originally Posted By djkest:
If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. He will need something to use in the meantime... |
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Originally Posted By djkest:
I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By gotuonpaper:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Yeah that's going to be hard to beat. I don't think it really qualifies for the record until we see the whole thing. |
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You keep comparing yourself to someone that people actually liked, and I think that's where you first stepped off. -TREETOP
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Originally Posted By djkest:
If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By ThomasChagrin:
Yeah, I think that I'm blowing it with my Wilson 13.8" hand guard. I have a MAG Tactical lower & 14.5" lightweight Voodoo barrel and I'm at 6.5 pounds. I'm sure the LAR side charging upper isn't helping. I'm still waiting on my Mission First Minimalist stock though. I'm trying to be right at 6# but it won't break my heart if I end up heavier. I'll post a pic if I actually make 6.000# or below! If Bravo Company is not BSing people on the weight of their new Keymod rail it will be under 8 ounces which would save you nearly a half a pound. Which is a shame because you like the Wilson Combat so much. It looks like there will be a KMR10 as well as the lightweight KMR13, but no info on their site if the 10 will be the same material. |
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I think it would be really awesome if we had some sort of repository for weights for various items. I'm not 100% sure what it would look like or where on ARFCOM it would be posted.
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Would you the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? Oh would you let the conex go? You cannot penalize this moment, in my life. Show me how the peeps kill.
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...believe in me, I'm with the High Command.
MO, USA
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"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive"
"Take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your clothes and buy one!" Jesus Christ - Luke 22.36 NRA Endowment Member |
The BCM KMR is not out yet. They said about 4-6 weeks for the 13" KMR and the 10" to follow. But the KMR will be made from a magnesium alloy, and will be the lightest keymod rail on the market. The KMR13 weighs 7.7 oz with barrel nut, and the KMR10 is 6.5 oz. I can't wait; I signed up for the email reminder so hopefully I can snag one when it becomes available.
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/D7E20B0B-8E4F-449F-A11D-75CF1CE018F4_zpsrhwzwa5s.jpg View Quote Nice! Specs on barrel (make/length/profile) please. |
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