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Posted: 6/10/2018 12:23:24 PM EDT
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Branching off from the normal Recce Rifle Thread for just legit clones. These have the most varying setups of all the clones, I believe. There is no hard data listed for every piece of equipment on these rifles. Only ITW photo's and some small lists of procurement from NSW. I have outlined the parts used most commonly but there are plenty of versions that are not covered in this list. The ITW one off photos of an already one off setup can be cloned using the parts visible in the photo!
There are 5 major types of these clones. All are built on Colt receivers except the 416 variant. Details are below NSWDG RECCE RIFLE: Optic: 2.5-10x24 Nightforce Rings: Nightforce A110 Piggybacked Optics: Jpoint, T1, or Insight MRDS. All using the respective mounts for each either using Wilcox NF ring cap. NF/Wilcox RULR cap, or 30mm tube mounts. Handguard: KAC FF RAS Rifle Length Barrel: Mystery Manufacturer. is 15.1" in length and uses the Ops Inc brake and collar Suppressor: Ops 12th Model(AEM5 kosher too) Bipod's: Atlas BT10 or Harris 6-9 Pistol Grips: A2, Ergo Deluxe, or DPMS VFG: TD VFG or Magpul AFG2 Stocks: SOPMOD or CTR NSWDG 416 Recce: Optic: Nightforce 2.5-10x24 or Nightforce 1-4x24 Piggybacked Optic: Jpoint and Insight mounted in Wilcox Ring Cap or Insight 30mm Mount/Cap. Rings: Nightforce A110, or Unimount. Larue LT101 Riser Handguard: Factory HK Barrel: 13"? Chopped HK barrel with Ops Collar and Brake, 14.5", or 10.4" HK Muzzle Device: AAC 18T, BE Myers 249F, or Ops Brake Suppressor: Ops 12th Model or AAC 416SD Pistol Grips: TD or HK VFG: TD, Grip Pod, or KAC Stocks: SOPMOD, CTR, Vltor, or Factory HK OG NSWDG Recce: Optic: 2.5-10x24/32 Nightforce or Leupold Vari-x/MK4 series Rings: Nightforce A110's, A203's, Leupold MK4, or KAC 1.4/5" Piggybacked Optics: Jpoint in Wilcox NF mount. NF RULR Mount for RULR Handguard: KAC FF RAS Rifle Length and Medium Length Barrel: Lilja 17" SS Muzzle Device: KAC M4QD or BE Myers 249F Suppressor: KAC M4 QDSS CORNCOB Bipod's: Harris 6-9 or Grip Pod Pistol Grips: A2 Stocks: SOPMOD or CTR Delta Recce: Optic: S&B Short Dot Rings: Larue LT101 Riser, Larue Rings Handguard: KAC MRE Barrel: 14.5 M4A1 Colt Muzzle Device: KAC M4QD Suppressor: KAC M4 QDSS CORNCOB Pistol Grips: A2 VFG: Gangsta Grip Stocks: SOPMOD or Car AFSOC 416 Recce : Optic: S&B Short Dot, NF 2.5-10x32, or Leupold 1-6 MK6 Rings: Larue LT104, NF Unimount, or Leupold MK6 Handguard: Geissele SMR or Remington RAHG Barrel: 14.5 HK Muzzle Device: Surefire 212 Suppressor: Surefire 212 with SOCOM locking collar Pistol Grips: HK VFG: Stubby Stocks: CTR Bipod: Atlas ISSUED GUNS: NSW RECCE NSW 416 RECCE: Attached File OG SEAL RECCE: DELTA RECCE: AFSOC 416 RECCE: CLONES: |
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Originally Posted By Steinhatchee:
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By SSOUNN:
Does mine qualify.. https://s15.postimg.cc/h6nszau4r/52_FAB2_EF-8_F8_E-4627-_A63_F-4_D6_CE8_CCB928.jpg View Quote |
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A .mil recce clone thread? I have no problem with this. Nothing wrong with trying to zero in on how the military defines this setup.
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http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
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http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
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This is the thread I have been waiting for!
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Good timing, I was just thinking about this earlier today and wondering if a mil specific recce thread existed. Thanks.
What’s the appropriate gas system - wiki says carbine. Can anyone comment? |
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Originally Posted By simplefolk:
Good timing, I was just thinking about this earlier today and wondering if a mil specific recce thread existed. Thanks. What’s the appropriate gas system - wiki says carbine. Can anyone comment? View Quote |
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Aren't half of these just mk12s?
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Originally Posted By TannerB:
Aren't half of these just mk12s? View Quote |
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Ok guys help me.... I’m trying to get as close to a seal Recce as possible. With a leupy mk4 2.5-8, which Mount would you go with, Larue SPR 1.5 or ARMS #22M???
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Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Ok guys help me.... I’m trying to get as close to a seal Recce as possible. With a leupy mk4 2.5-8, which Mount would you go with, Larue SPR 1.5 or ARMS #22M??? View Quote |
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Ok guys help me.... I’m trying to get as close to a seal Recce as possible. With a leupy mk4 2.5-8, which Mount would you go with, Larue SPR 1.5 or ARMS #22M??? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Between those options, I would go with the Larue. If you want a.r.m.s rings, you have to find nls's. Then you are $200+ into a set of rings that really are garbage. Even if they are tight when you get them, they will loosen over time not to mention you have to lap the hell out of them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Ok guys help me.... I’m trying to get as close to a seal Recce as possible. With a leupy mk4 2.5-8, which Mount would you go with, Larue SPR 1.5 or ARMS #22M??? |
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Originally Posted By eMc9001: I'd say ARMS. Kinda goes hand in hand with the Leupold. NF has more options as seen. ETA: on a side note, 234 days currently for a form 1 on a Colt lower. Until then I can't participate lol. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: I just had my card ran by the ATF for my AEM5 so it’ll be a while for me also. However, my barrel should be back from ADCO anyday now. I’m sure J will let me blast his a few times before my AEM5 gets approved. View Quote |
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
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Where are you guys finding your KAC 12” rails?
ETA: and how bad would I get shunned for using Larue 12” rails if I can’t find a set of KAC rails? |
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Proverbs 14:4
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Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Sign up for a notification at operations parts. They also pop up in the EE from time to time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Where are you guys finding your KAC 12” rails? ETA: and how bad would I get shunned for using Larue 12” rails if I can’t find a set of KAC rails? |
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Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
They have 14 in stock for $350. Guess I’m not eating a full meal this week.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Where are you guys finding your KAC 12” rails? ETA: and how bad would I get shunned for using Larue 12” rails if I can’t find a set of KAC rails? |
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Proverbs 14:4
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In on 1
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"I can make the march and make Georgia howl." W.T. Sherman
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I like it! BUIS optional.
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http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Propositions-J-S-Economos/dp/0615997635
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Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Made page 1 https://i.imgur.com/tUQb9A6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TeEn0JM.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ffAEby8C0 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
They have 14 in stock for $350. Guess I’m not eating a full meal this week.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Where are you guys finding your KAC 12” rails? ETA: and how bad would I get shunned for using Larue 12” rails if I can’t find a set of KAC rails? |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Branching off from the normal Recce Rifle Thread for just legit clones. These have the most varying setups of all the clones I believe. Trying to keep this to the AR platform. But HK is kosher since it is the newer variant. Here is a quick run down. Can add more items as they get brought up. RAILS: KAC FF RAS Medium/Long and KAC MRE OPTICS: Nightforce 2.5-10x24/32, Leupold MK4 Series, S&B Short Dot, and Doctor/T1 Piggybacked OPTIC MOUNTS: NF Rings, ARMS Rings, NF Unimount, LaRue LT104, LaRue Riser/Ring Combo’s BARRELS: 16/15.x Ops Cut Barrel, 16in Lilja, or 14.5 M4 BIPODS: Harris 6-9 and Atlas BT10 STOCK: SOPMOD, CAR, or CTR. MUZZLE DEVICES: Ops/AE, BE Myers, or KAC NT4 SUPPRESSORS: Ops 12th/AEM5 and KAC NT4 A few to get us started of in the wild and a few of the favorites I’ve collected. https://i.imgur.com/eQsW54w.jpg https://i.imgur.com/96efWyH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gDCE7Tj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Su3iHMR.png https://i.imgur.com/D8jzOnk.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RnSjqeV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ts9Kivo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QTA7OyW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OVEqo9Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/agsuTyF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZLDhhMo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lrgGcuB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5j54vFl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EIqypEh.jpg View Quote |
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: It's 15", the step has to be moved rearward to accommodate the 1" chop. Doing this allows the taper to sit in a position that allows the aem5 to sit flush with the long ff ras. View Quote Originally Posted By Eyekahn: 15.1 supposedly. Just send to adco and explain what you want. I did. Should be back any day now. View Quote |
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