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okay mako,
i think i want one but i need questions answered: The buttstock can be removed if one is using on a non SBR'd gun right? I have one SBR'd Glock. Can you please reply w/ the exact links or part numbers of what i would need to allow me to mounteither a Glock 21 or a glock 17 in one? Which unit and which "back plates". Is the charging handle and all its parts proprietary? Could a larger or ambi latch be put on one perhaps? Can it work w/ a G21 and an osprey suppressor? If not, would i have to open it up inside or just grind hte lower part of the forward section off all together. Do you guys deal w/ anyone in Jax FL? |
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Originally Posted By FAB-Defense:
Well guys, this is a well known challenge. check out this video of our brand-new "LB-200" handgun support system; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgvkWO1MGR4&feature=player_detailpage • Does not transform your handgun legally in to an SBR. coming soon Ariel FAB-Defense View Quote will that thing fold over or under or be fixed? |
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Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
The other way around, actually. We don't currently stock a separate conversion plate to go from large frame to 9mm sized Glocks, but it may be possible. I would have to ask FAB. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By Dhampir:
So, can one purchase a Glock 21 KPOS Gen 2 and then a separate conversion plate to use 9mm Glocks as well? The other way around, actually. We don't currently stock a separate conversion plate to go from large frame to 9mm sized Glocks, but it may be possible. I would have to ask FAB. okay, so the only adapter plate that you get from the MFG as an indiviaul seperate part that can be ordered is the one that will allow you to put a G20/21 in a unit originally packaged to hold a G17? So, if one wants to use the unit on both size frame guns, order the one for small frames and order the extra back plate thing that fits 20/21s? Can you please reply w/ that part number and price, or a link? I can't find it. |
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Back to this thread. WA State's legislature just voted to pass the SBR law, which will allow us to have them here. So, now it's just a matter of time until we can get them in WA.
Questions: 1) I understand that I'll have to pay the $200 ATF stamp and register an SBR. However, what am registering? The whole thing? 2) If I have two or three pistols in different cals, can I use any of them under the same stamp? 3) I read about an "engraving". What exactly must be engraved and where? 4) Can I install and remove the stock as I want, or it will have to be permanently attached? 5) Any place where I can find more detailed info about this? I mean plain English. Some of the stuff in the ATF website is confusing. Thanks! |
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Do you make a back plate (The part that the stock is attached to) that accepts an AR style buffer tube?
I would like to order one of your new Pathfinder units so I don't have to do the SBR thing, but would like to add my own buffer tube with SIG brace. Would also like to add a folding mechanism that would fold to the left side opposed to the right side, like the pathfinder. Thank you! |
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O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
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Originally Posted By twydyn:
No. It's the small rubber buffer that makes direct contact with the back of the glock. It's hard to explain but turn the kpos g2 over. Unhing the rear portion, there will be a small rubber bulge with 2 Small holes next to it. This part has way to much movement and can be pushed in with ease. When the back portion is put into place on the glock this rubber part makes direct contact with the glock. Because it has give the whole rear end of the kpos moves up and down. This is the problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By twydyn:
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Are you talking about the rubber buttpad? No. It's the small rubber buffer that makes direct contact with the back of the glock. It's hard to explain but turn the kpos g2 over. Unhing the rear portion, there will be a small rubber bulge with 2 Small holes next to it. This part has way to much movement and can be pushed in with ease. When the back portion is put into place on the glock this rubber part makes direct contact with the glock. Because it has give the whole rear end of the kpos moves up and down. This is the problem. Ever figure this out? I just put one on my SBR'd G22 and the stock wiggles on mine too. That little spring loaded round thing is just too soft. Just playing "pew pew pew" with it the stock moves too much. Im thinking of just wedging something in that gap to prevent the movement. Like a cheap AK buffer trimmed down to fill the gap |
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Originally Posted By moshaholic2:
Ever figure this out? I just put one on my SBR'd G22 and the stock wiggles on mine too. That little spring loaded round thing is just too soft. Just playing "pew pew pew" with it the stock moves too much. Im thinking of just wedging something in that gap to prevent the movement. Like a cheap AK buffer trimmed down to fill the gap View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By moshaholic2:
Originally Posted By twydyn:
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Are you talking about the rubber buttpad? No. It's the small rubber buffer that makes direct contact with the back of the glock. It's hard to explain but turn the kpos g2 over. Unhing the rear portion, there will be a small rubber bulge with 2 Small holes next to it. This part has way to much movement and can be pushed in with ease. When the back portion is put into place on the glock this rubber part makes direct contact with the glock. Because it has give the whole rear end of the kpos moves up and down. This is the problem. Ever figure this out? I just put one on my SBR'd G22 and the stock wiggles on mine too. That little spring loaded round thing is just too soft. Just playing "pew pew pew" with it the stock moves too much. Im thinking of just wedging something in that gap to prevent the movement. Like a cheap AK buffer trimmed down to fill the gap No I never did. I tried to get help but never got replies back and eventually gave up. Did you end up fixing this issue? |
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I received mine about 6 weeks ago. I wish someone from FAB would respond to my e-mails. The quality of the machining is excellent but they are using a VERY VERY strong locktite material on all of their screws which is fine but they need to back off on the amount and the strength. Upon receiving it I had to adjust the "Op Rod" to contact my slide properly by moving it to the reward position. Using new allen wrenches I had a very hard time removing the screws but was able to. These are VERY small and hardly have meat to them to allow the force needed to release the thread lock compound, If you use a wrench that has the very least wear in the point of contact chances are you WILL strip the screw.
Then I wanted to mount my trident 9 suppressor on the gun so I had to remove the front extension since it does not allow a suppressor to center itself with the gun barrel, this was a serious problem! The screw would not release. I tried heating and cooling many times in order to break it's contact but nothing would release it. Finally I thought it was moving but it was not and stripped. I then had to drill it out and use a screw extractor and it still would not come out! Finally with the extractor fully inserted in the pilot hole I had to drill I resorted to a propane blowtorch. I was VERY concerned that I would damage the finish but I had no other choice. With a large amount of heat in a pencil flame I finally saw the general area sweat which was apparently all the locktite. NO ONE will be able to remove the screw with the amount of threadlocker that was used on my gun. I was lucky and the finish was not damaged after a little cleaning. I have contacted FAB industries and informed them with photos of what happened along with a request for a couple of replacement screws so if I want to restore it to it's original condition I can. Never received a response from them. It's a fun gun to shoot, so far it appears to be working well even with sub-sonic loads. It is built well but this problem needs to be addressed, it's not that necessary to gob it on. It's an expensive accessory but it arrived in 7 days as promised and in good condition. |
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Who did you order it from? Some of our dealers take returns no questions asked and ship them out to the next customer.
We occasionally have dealers return stock in exchange for other products that they would prefer to carry, etc. This stock is supposed to be new, but sometimes the dealer plays with the item or a customer returns it and the dealer returns it as new. It is likely that this was the case with your KPOS. Someone likely put red locktite on the screws and it was not noticed when returned as new. It should not have shipped with locktite on the screws, except the locking compound on the front latch bolt, which is a re-usable type. I have had many of these apart and switched parts, and while I do recommend using blue locktite, I have never seen them ship that way. If you need replacement screws, please contact our CS department. Contact info is at www.themakogroup.com The flash hider is designed to be removed for suppressor use - it isn't a problem, it is a design feature.
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Originally Posted By moshaholic2: Ever figure this out? I just put one on my SBR'd G22 and the stock wiggles on mine too. That little spring loaded round thing is just too soft. Just playing "pew pew pew" with it the stock moves too much. Im thinking of just wedging something in that gap to prevent the movement. Like a cheap AK buffer trimmed down to fill the gap View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By moshaholic2: Originally Posted By twydyn: Originally Posted By MakoDefense: Are you talking about the rubber buttpad? I was confused because the part you are referring to is not made of rubber, but aluminum. Because of the use of polymer, the frame dimensions vary from Glock to Glock. If there were no give, some Glock frames would be damaged and others would fit too loose. So a strong spring presses the back plate forward against the pistol frame. When you take your firing stance it pushes the stock tight against the spring. This is not a problem. If you are shooting correctly, the stock will be pressed against the chest and will not move. Only if you are shooting with an incorrect stance will you see movement. This is more noticeable on Glocks, because the Gen 3 Glock has a frame that is flexes much more and more easily than previous generations. The spring in the Glock KPOS had to be lightened, or the Gen3 Glock frame flexed too much and could malfunction. My personal experience and that of our customers and others has taught me to avoid Gen 4 Glocks and stick to Gen3. This is my personal option, not a policy of Mako. With the lightened spring, the Glock KPOS is as reliable with the Gen4 Glocks as the Gen4 Glocks are themselves.
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You should make one with a FOLDABLE "ARM BRACE" (NON-STOCK) hint hint wink wink nudge nudge.
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We do - it's called the Pathfinder! :-)
https://www.themakogroup.com/Search.aspx?TERM=pathfinder
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disregard this comment
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