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2/5/2026 2:02:51 AM EDT
Excluding the Origin-12, which I know about. Last I knew everything was out of production.
2/5/2026 2:09:23 PM EDT
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Just buy one on GB
Remy wont let me down like Mia did.
2/5/2026 3:55:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alaskacajun][Edited] [#2]
This isn't what you asked about OP, but I bought one of these JTS M12AK-T1 shotguns at my LGS because it was cheap and sitting on a shelf and I have been completely happy with it. It's a great shooter. It eats everything and has an adjustable gas block, so I plan on SBS'ing it some day and suppressing it.

https://www.jtsgroup.us/products/p/m12ak-t1

Cheap 10 round mags

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- Clint
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2/6/2026 6:18:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
This isn't what you asked about OP, but I bought one of these JTS M12AK-T1 shotguns at my LGS because it was cheap and sitting on a shelf and I have been completely happy with it. It's a great shooter. It eats everything and has an adjustable gas block, so I plan on SBS'ing it some day and suppressing it.

https://www.jtsgroup.us/products/p/m12ak-t1

Cheap 10 round mags

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/90213/9F24163B-C26E-4E70-AAE9-A8DE776A7C72-213-3708133.JPG

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Have one of those, it was greatly improved by a good disassembly and polish job on rough internal surfaces.  Runs great now.

Only other issue was the mag catch shape chipped out the plastic mag rear lug, so that mag is kind of trashed, though I did put some epoxy on it to rebuild it and reshape it.  Then I smoothed out the mag catch latch so it applies force to a larger area instead of making contact in one small spot and essentially cutting that plastic out easily.  

The iron sights are ridiculously off on elevation for slugs, I need to put a red dot on it…

I have seem them dirt cheap, used ones around $200 as well, so can’t go too wrong with one.
a loaded gun won’t set you free, so you say…
2/6/2026 5:54:14 PM EDT
[#4]
There really isn't anything that comes close to the build quality of a Vepr12.
2/6/2026 6:47:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst:
There really isn't anything that comes close to the build quality of a Vepr12.
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That ain't no lie

- Clint
#CTMadModz on youtube
2/7/2026 3:44:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst:
There really isn't anything that comes close to the build quality of a Vepr12.
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Thoughts on the Genesis 12?   It’s expensive.
Words fall from your mouth like shit from ass.
2/9/2026 1:53:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KDG_Dave][Edited] [#7]
NOPE
2/12/2026 5:56:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:


Thoughts on the Genesis 12?   It’s expensive.
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I have not messed with one. Looks like an AR10 with a 12ga upper.


It's nothing like a S12 or V12.
2/13/2026 12:48:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Alaskacajun][Edited] [#9]
There’s a Genesis 12 with a Huxwerks flow throw suppressor on it at my LGS and I think they said it was $4400 😬

-Clint
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