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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: That was the other thing that bugged me besides the selector marking. My rear trunnion is actually set in a little crooked. The gas tubes are ok of they are a little on the loose side as that will very even with Bulgarian guns. Mine has about the same as my SAM7K. When I 1st broke mine down I had to pry my gas tube out and change the angle of the rear portion of it so that it can be removed and installed how its supposed to be. As my 1st PSA, and hearing all of the horror story's about them I took a chance on it anyway pretty much knowing it was going to have something weird about it. Shoots good but I do have some concern if they even dimpled when setting the trunnions. My money is on no. Fun gun to shoot and functions great so far, but clearly basic QC is still not there forte still lol! https://i.imgur.com/wgeAD1o.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By mak0: Two little things I noticed taking down my krink for its first cleaning: 1. the rear trunion is not flush with the back of the receiver. Looking closely at some pictures of other PSA krinks it seems like they're all like this? Kinda strange but is really just a cosmetic thing in the end 2. the gas tube has some play. I know this is not uncommon for krinks but it seemed to be more pronounced on my PSA compared to a friend's Bulgarian krink. Other than those two nitpicks the gun has been running great for me. That was the other thing that bugged me besides the selector marking. My rear trunnion is actually set in a little crooked. The gas tubes are ok of they are a little on the loose side as that will very even with Bulgarian guns. Mine has about the same as my SAM7K. When I 1st broke mine down I had to pry my gas tube out and change the angle of the rear portion of it so that it can be removed and installed how its supposed to be. As my 1st PSA, and hearing all of the horror story's about them I took a chance on it anyway pretty much knowing it was going to have something weird about it. Shoots good but I do have some concern if they even dimpled when setting the trunnions. My money is on no. Fun gun to shoot and functions great so far, but clearly basic QC is still not there forte still lol! https://i.imgur.com/wgeAD1o.jpg Oh wow, that is much worse fit than mine |
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Originally Posted By cyclone: Finally got mine set uphttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/43372/IMG_20240530_184644715_jpg-3239178.JPG View Quote Very nice congrats. I added a booster to mine as well |
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Very nice congrats. I added a booster to mine as well View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Originally Posted By cyclone: Finally got mine set uphttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/43372/IMG_20240530_184644715_jpg-3239178.JPG Very nice congrats. I added a booster to mine as well Yeah, I was going all synthetic but the handguard is nice so just the booster and new grip went on. Very satisfied with it |
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Is a brace available that utilizes the folding trunnion mechanism??
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Originally Posted By Stepbruhsolja: Is a brace available that utilizes the folding trunnion mechanism?? View Quote You can use any brace that attaches to the pic rail. The way PSA does it across their AK line is essentially a double folder....you have the rear trunnion that folds and you also have a pic rail adaptor that folds. That way you can SBR it. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: That was the other thing that bugged me besides the selector marking. My rear trunnion is actually set in a little crooked. The gas tubes are ok of they are a little on the loose side as that will very even with Bulgarian guns. Mine has about the same as my SAM7K. When I 1st broke mine down I had to pry my gas tube out and change the angle of the rear portion of it so that it can be removed and installed how its supposed to be. As my 1st PSA, and hearing all of the horror story's about them I took a chance on it anyway pretty much knowing it was going to have something weird about it. Shoots good but I do have some concern if they even dimpled when setting the trunnions. My money is on no. Fun gun to shoot and functions great so far, but clearly basic QC is still not there forte still lol! https://i.imgur.com/wgeAD1o.jpg View Quote Oof.jpg Gotta say, that pic made me cringe. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: That was the other thing that bugged me besides the selector marking. My rear trunnion is actually set in a little crooked. The gas tubes are ok of they are a little on the loose side as that will very even with Bulgarian guns. Mine has about the same as my SAM7K. When I 1st broke mine down I had to pry my gas tube out and change the angle of the rear portion of it so that it can be removed and installed how its supposed to be. As my 1st PSA, and hearing all of the horror story's about them I took a chance on it anyway pretty much knowing it was going to have something weird about it. Shoots good but I do have some concern if they even dimpled when setting the trunnions. My money is on no. Fun gun to shoot and functions great so far, but clearly basic QC is still not there forte still lol! https://i.imgur.com/wgeAD1o.jpg View Quote @KDG_Dave Do you have more pics of that krink? It looks like a lot of things might be misaligned. The dust cover fit looks a bit off and so does the recoil spring button. Maybe it’s just the angle of the pic but I don’t think the recoil button thing on mine sticks out that far. I’d have to go check to confirm 100% though. I will go look and snap a pic shortly |
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Originally Posted By ak4784: @KDG_Dave Do you have more pics of that krink? It looks like a lot of things might be misaligned. The dust cover fit looks a bit off and so does the recoil spring button. Maybe it’s just the angle of the pic but I don’t think the recoil button thing on mine sticks out that far. I’d have to go check to confirm 100% though. I will go look and snap a pic shortly View Quote Mine looks exactly like Dave's. Dust cover on mine is a bitch to get off. |
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Originally Posted By ak4784: @KDG_Dave Do you have more pics of that krink? It looks like a lot of things might be misaligned. The dust cover fit looks a bit off and so does the recoil spring button. Maybe it’s just the angle of the pic but I don’t think the recoil button thing on mine sticks out that far. I’d have to go check to confirm 100% though. I will go look and snap a pic shortly View Quote Recoil spring button always stick out like that on Krinks. That is normal. |
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I've seen some recent PSA Krinks (serial numbers around 15xx) and the trunnions appear to be fit properly/flush now. I wonder if PSA will correct a poorly fitted trunnion under warranty. Clearly they recognized an issue and corrected it in production.
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: You just need to spread the dust cover a little. Do that and it flip up as soon as you push the button in how it should. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Mine looks exactly like Dave's. Dust cover on mine is a bitch to get off. You just need to spread the dust cover a little. Do that and it flip up as soon as you push the button in how it should. Thanks I'll give that a try. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: I've seen some recent PSA Krinks (serial numbers around 15xx) and the trunnions appear to be fit properly/flush now. I wonder if PSA will correct a poorly fitted trunnion under warranty. Clearly they recognized an issue and corrected it in production. View Quote Mine is in the 800 rserial number range. Not going to worry about it until it becomes an issue on mine if it ever does need attention |
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Originally Posted By mak0: I've seen some recent PSA Krinks (serial numbers around 15xx) and the trunnions appear to be fit properly/flush now. I wonder if PSA will correct a poorly fitted trunnion under warranty. Clearly they recognized an issue and corrected it in production. View Quote They probably would warranty it for sure. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: I've seen some recent PSA Krinks (serial numbers around 15xx) and the trunnions appear to be fit properly/flush now. I wonder if PSA will correct a poorly fitted trunnion under warranty. Clearly they recognized an issue and corrected it in production. View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/Palmetto-State-Armory/301/ He will ask for your purchase #, so dig out your receipt. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: I've seen some recent PSA Krinks (serial numbers around 15xx) and the trunnions appear to be fit properly/flush now. I wonder if PSA will correct a poorly fitted trunnion under warranty. Clearly they recognized an issue and corrected it in production. View Quote If there is something you believe is incorrect and you would like us to take a look at it, please PM me a description of the issue and your order number. We will take a look at it. Thank you, Josiah |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: If there is something you believe is incorrect and you would like us to take a look at it, please PM me a description of the issue and your order number. We will take a look at it. Thank you, Josiah View Quote @KDG_Dave |
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Got my krink out again with some changes from initial range report when new
Went with a RS Regulate mount and a PA micro prism over the poor iron sights that are hard to see. Also used IMI 55 grain 5.56 as baseline. Zeroed at 50 yards. 5 shot group just over 1 inch which i am very happy with. No failures at all. Was popping 6-8 " steel at 100 and 125 yards no problem. Will try some 77 grain otm to see how it performs,but so far it loves the IMI 55 grain. Action seems to be getting smoother now with more rounds through it Love this krink more and more. |
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Got my krink out again with some changes from initial range report when new Went with a RS Regulate mount and a PA micro prism over the poor iron sights that are hard to see. Also used IMI 55 grain 5.56 as baseline. Zeroed at 50 yards. 5 shot group just over 1 inch which i am very happy with. No failures at all. Was popping 6-8 " steel at 100 and 125 yards no problem. Will try some 77 grain otm to see how it performs,but so far it loves the IMI 55 grain. Action seems to be getting smoother now with more rounds through it Love this krink more and more. View Quote Excellent. I still need to get a red dot and a mount |
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Originally Posted By cyclone: Excellent. I still need to get a red dot and a mount View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Got my krink out again with some changes from initial range report when new Went with a RS Regulate mount and a PA micro prism over the poor iron sights that are hard to see. Also used IMI 55 grain 5.56 as baseline. Zeroed at 50 yards. 5 shot group just over 1 inch which i am very happy with. No failures at all. Was popping 6-8 " steel at 100 and 125 yards no problem. Will try some 77 grain otm to see how it performs,but so far it loves the IMI 55 grain. Action seems to be getting smoother now with more rounds through it Love this krink more and more. Excellent. I still need to get a red dot and a mount I'll try to get some pics of my setup Posted. For some reason I can't upload pics to forum from my phone The RS Regulate mount is solid system I highly recommend it. |
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: The RS Regulate mount is solid system I highly recommend it. View Quote The 30mm red dot mount sits super low for those who like co-witnessing their irons. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Anyone else see this? https://i.imgur.com/PEuFnsE.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/JfvSGNb.jpeg View Quote Looks like San Andreas fault line. Jeez I'm gonna go look at mine asap |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Anyone else see this? https://i.imgur.com/PEuFnsE.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/JfvSGNb.jpeg View Quote Round count on that? |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Anyone else see this? https://i.imgur.com/PEuFnsE.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/JfvSGNb.jpeg View Quote Yikes! That's in need of warranty service ASAP. |
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Originally Posted By Dragynn: Yikes! That's in need of warranty service ASAP. View Quote Im sure it will get fixed. Personally I would just swap out the trunnion for a forged import trunnion. I wouldn't risk getting one back with another out of spec trunnion that was made from the same company. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Im sure it will get fixed. Personally I would just swap out the trunnion for a forged import trunnion. I wouldn't risk getting one back with another out of spec trunnion that was made from the same company. View Quote Toolcraft makes the AK trunnions and this has to my knowledge never happened. Warranty claim is in order. Sadly stuff does happen. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Correct which is why everyone of them is out of spec.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By d16man: Toolcraft makes the AK trunnions and this has to my knowledge never happened. Warranty claim is in order. Sadly stuff does happen. Correct which is why everyone of them is out of spec.... |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: From what I hear only 500 rounds. It shouldn't do this even after 500,000 rounds... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By SGL_Shooter: Round count on that? From what I hear only 500 rounds. It shouldn't do this even after 500,000 rounds... That is a dirty gun for only 500 rounds. |
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I'd be curious to see what PSA has to say about your trunion
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Originally Posted By d16man: Mine 104 did until I put a standard folding stock on it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20220625_143600-2439066.jpg Your "show me one" is proof you don't have a clue how many AK's have sold that have zero issues. View Quote I can promises you none fit the rear trunnions without forcing them on the KRINK. I don't care how many have sold they are not built anywhere near the quality of a good import and there AK sales are no match for how many proven imports are out there. Trunnions don't do this when they are made out of hammer forged steel...especially at only 500 rounds. They are thrown together without a care in the world for putting out quality and you can clearly see it right when you open the box up. Its an embarrassment right down to the over beveled extractors. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: I can promises you none fit the rear trunnions without forcing them on the KRINK. I don't care how many have sold they are not built anywhere near the quality of a good import and there AK sales are no match for how many proven imports are out there. Trunnions don't do this when they are made out of hammer forged steel...especially at only 500 rounds. They are thrown together without a care in the world for putting out quality and you can clearly see it right when you open the box up. Its an embarrassment right down to the over beveled extractors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By d16man: Mine 104 did until I put a standard folding stock on it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20220625_143600-2439066.jpg Your "show me one" is proof you don't have a clue how many AK's have sold that have zero issues. I can promises you none fit the rear trunnions without forcing them on the KRINK. I don't care how many have sold they are not built anywhere near the quality of a good import and there AK sales are no match for how many proven imports are out there. Trunnions don't do this when they are made out of hammer forged steel...especially at only 500 rounds. They are thrown together without a care in the world for putting out quality and you can clearly see it right when you open the box up. Its an embarrassment right down to the over beveled extractors. You cannot promise that every krink trunnion is bad. Stop being a drama llamma. Do you even own a PSA krink or are you just here to shit on PSA? Edit: went back and looked. You have the crooked trunnion. So have you sent it back to PSA? Personally I have fired 4 krinks, none have issues with stocks. This was the first, which has a slightly different set up. |
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Originally Posted By d16man: You cannot promise that every krink trunnion is bad. Stop being a drama llamma. Do you even own a PSA krink or are you just here to shit on PSA? Edit: went back and looked. You have the crooked trunnion. So have you sent it back to PSA? Personally I have fired 4 krinks, none have issues with stocks. This was the first, which has a slightly different set up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337946/1000002706-3166370.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337946/1000002818-3169441.jpg View Quote Not saying all the trunnions are bad Im saying none of them except an import triangle folder or many other 4.5 adapters and stocks without some work dont to them, and none of them are hammer forged to the risk of failure is much higher. If this one cracked there will be more. Yes I do own one. Did I send it back to get the same trunnion re positioned and re riveted??? LOL!!!! Hell no because that's exactly what they would have done. I fixed everything myself. Edit: Would love to see better pics of your trunnion as I believe I already see a problem in the 1st pic that you are probably unaware of. |
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Forgot to check mine for cracks. I'll check it later today.
There are a few on youtube with several thousand rounds on them with no failures. Time will tell I suppose |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Not saying all the trunnions are bad Im saying none of them except an import triangle folder or many other 4.5 adapters and stocks without some work dont to them, and none of them are hammer forged to the risk of failure is much higher. If this one cracked there will be more. Yes I do own one. Did I send it back to get the same trunnion re positioned and re riveted??? LOL!!!! Hell no because that's exactly what they would have done. I fixed everything myself. Edit: Would love to see better pics of your trunnion as I believe I already see a problem in the 1st pic that you are probably unaware of. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By d16man: You cannot promise that every krink trunnion is bad. Stop being a drama llamma. Do you even own a PSA krink or are you just here to shit on PSA? Edit: went back and looked. You have the crooked trunnion. So have you sent it back to PSA? Personally I have fired 4 krinks, none have issues with stocks. This was the first, which has a slightly different set up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337946/1000002706-3166370.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/337946/1000002818-3169441.jpg Not saying all the trunnions are bad Im saying none of them except an import triangle folder or many other 4.5 adapters and stocks without some work dont to them, and none of them are hammer forged to the risk of failure is much higher. If this one cracked there will be more. Yes I do own one. Did I send it back to get the same trunnion re positioned and re riveted??? LOL!!!! Hell no because that's exactly what they would have done. I fixed everything myself. Edit: Would love to see better pics of your trunnion as I believe I already see a problem in the 1st pic that you are probably unaware of. That's not my gun. That was one PSA had at The Gathering that went through about 5k rounds in 2 days. Just to be clear...are you saying Toolcraft doesn't hammer forged the trunnions? Also, you realize PSA does the trunnions to fit their own stocks, and that other stocks, even if the same mm, may require fitting (just like a plethora of gun companies advertise about their own products and after market stuff)? As I read your posts it sounds like you want PSA to make a universal fit which we both know doesn't happen, especially in the AK world. |
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Forgot to check mine for cracks. I'll check it later today. There are a few on youtube with several thousand rounds on them with no failures. Time will tell I suppose View Quote Check that rear left rivot to to make sure there is no cracks on the receiver itself too. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Check that rear left rivot to to make sure there is no cracks on the receiver itself too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Forgot to check mine for cracks. I'll check it later today. There are a few on youtube with several thousand rounds on them with no failures. Time will tell I suppose Check that rear left rivot to to make sure there is no cracks on the receiver itself too. Checked mine pretty good. No cracks or stress marks on trunnion or rivets. I only have 150 rounds through mine. Will keep an eye on it,but so far so good. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: Trunnions don't do this when they are made out of hammer forged steel...especially at only 500 rounds. View Quote I'm assuming you're referencing the rear trunnion since that's what's showing as being broken. But rear trunnions are not hammer forged even on Russian rifles either. |
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Originally Posted By KDG_Dave: There is no way that is a hammer forged trunnion. Hammer forged trunnions don't crack like that. Its cast. Front trunnion is hammer forged. the rears are not. The AK market is flooded with aftermarket stocks and braces. It would be really stupid on PSA's part to have cast 4.5" trunnions made proprietary only to there own stocks. They know damn well people will want to use all types of different ones. I mean if it was done on purpose why even use a 4.5 pin set up??? You can keep on trying to justify there poor quality if you want to. The ONLY fitting I have ever had to do on a triangle folder is just file a tiny bit off the catch slot. I have never had to remove material of the hinge section of a trunnion or stock on any AK builds I have done. https://i.imgur.com/Ac6Jne7.png View Quote You need to go watch their video series Relentless Pursuit. I think it is Vid 3 where they show Toolcraft and where they make the trunnions. Hammer forged certainly can crack. I am not aware of PSA using any cast trunnions. I might be wrong though. @palmettostatearmory Josiah can tell us all. As for the pins... AR Mlok slots are all supposed to be the same. I have had to alter things before. Same with QD cups. Same with barrels and gas blocks. Tolerance stacking is a real thing. I know you want perfect with absolutely everything, but you know that ain't achievable. What I can say is PSA manufacturers stuff to PSA specs. |
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