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Posted: 7/21/2014 3:16:43 PM EDT
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Replaced standard AK47 follower with a Bolt Hold Open follower keeping bolt open when last round is fired!! Turning your standard mags to BHO mags similar to the Yugoslavian AK mags keeping bolt open on last round. The AK empty mag click is no more!!! The major advantages to this are obvious, for one you know your empty and its time to reload, a must in a self defense situation! failures to fire are instantly noticed because the bolt does not stay open and a click is heard.Safety keep your bolt open to check chamber clean or for range master look over. Now guys the bolt closes when you pull the mag out it does not turn the AK into an AR it simply tells you its empty and pulse is felt similar to an AR indicating empty keeping you from wasting time aiming or running around with an empty chamber.
Compatible with all standard AK mags both metal and polymer. US made Lifetime warranty (r922) compliant part. Demo video http://youtu.be/ysOhfh7Blu0?list=UUBGoBSft9CeEwH0eXJ3-Z8g Order here https://www.primaryarms.com/WeaponTech_AK47_Enhanced_Bolt_Hold_Open_Follower_p/afwtakf3.htm Dimitri |
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I'll toss a three pack in my cart when I order my 4x Compact Prism/ RS Regulate bundle.
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Are you running a 74? if not your going to have to wait for the 7.62x39 version of the 4X Dimitri View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
I'll toss a three pack in my cart when I order my 4x Compact Prism/ RS Regulate bundle. Are you running a 74? if not your going to have to wait for the 7.62x39 version of the 4X Dimitri Not so patiently waiting. |
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Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Not so patiently waiting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
I'll toss a three pack in my cart when I order my 4x Compact Prism/ RS Regulate bundle. Are you running a 74? if not your going to have to wait for the 7.62x39 version of the 4X Dimitri Not so patiently waiting. I know, but know when you get it its going to work great and be very reliable, the factory that makes the 4X,2.5X1-6XACSS takes a long time to deliver but when we get a batch it has a very very low defect rate to none. Its best to wait and get a well made optic then having them rush though and delivering garbage. Here is a video of me testing it at 500 yards using an AK47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNBuxqk3ng Dimitri |
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*shrugs*
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This seems like it could be a cool product. It's certainly a good idea.
I might add some to my cart the next time I put in an order with PA. |
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Originally Posted By Mecha_Loopy:
This seems like it could be a cool product. It's certainly a good idea. I might add some to my cart the next time I put in an order with PA. View Quote We are almost out of stock! Its getting great reviews! Having a BHO that is r922 with lifetime warranty they are selling like crazy! Dimitri |
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I've been looking for some variation of this product for awhile.
Glad to see that you're starting to sell them. I just purchased two sets of 3 BHO Followers.... I'll probably be buying more as time goes on. |
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Please post your review of them
Dimitri |
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Oh I will. Especially since you guys have already shipped them to me.....
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Got them yesterday, but due to work, kids, chores around the house and being on midnights, I wasn't able to due anything with them until just now.
Most of my magazines are Yugo BHO mags, and I'm one of these anal retentive types that prefers to standardize on manual arms when possible. Having 87 different types of mags for my AK's isn't a big deal except that most of them are BHO mags and some are not. I do have some Chinese mags I planned on dremeling off the "nub" to turn them into BHO mags, (did it to one, and it worked, never got around to doing it to the others). I also have some Circle 10 mags, some European mags that I assume are Romanian, and some Tapco mags I was given..... The Weapon Tech BHO Followers have converted Chinese, Romanian, Bulgarian Circle 10, and Tapco mags into BHO mags. I haven't had a chance to test them on the range, but running the bolt by hand and cycling rounds has shown that they work. Since the mags all worked before the BHO followers were installed, and all I did was change followers and not the mags, I do not see how these wont work in firing conditions. Since the Bulgarian Circle 10 Mags have a plastic follower and they're among the most reliable magazines one can buy, I don't have any issue with replacing the metal followers from my Chinese and Romanian magazines with the Weapon Tech Followers. Of course, I now need to buy at least 10 more of these things so that I can "fix" my remaining Chinese, Romanian and Tapco magazines. I will leave a review on the website about them once I get a chance to run them on the range. |
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Chaos, confusion, despair....my work is done here. Murphy
Did you just realize the closest you'll ever be to becoming a hero is wearing your underwear outside your pants? Madcap72 |
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Got them yesterday, but due to work, kids, chores around the house and being on midnights, I wasn't able to due anything with them until just now. Most of my magazines are Yugo BHO mags, and I'm one of these anal retentive types that prefers to standardize on manual arms when possible. Having 87 different types of mags for my AK's isn't a big deal except that most of them are BHO mags and some are not. I do have some Chinese mags I planned on dremeling off the "nub" to turn them into BHO mags, (did it to one, and it worked, never got around to doing it to the others). I also have some Circle 10 mags, some European mags that I assume are Romanian, and some Tapco mags I was given..... The Weapon Tech BHO Followers have converted Chinese, Romanian, Bulgarian Circle 10, and Tapco mags into BHO mags. I haven't had a chance to test them on the range, but running the bolt by hand and cycling rounds has shown that they work. Since the mags all worked before the BHO followers were installed, and all I did was change followers and not the mags, I do not see how these wont work in firing conditions. Since the Bulgarian Circle 10 Mags have a plastic follower and they're among the most reliable magazines one can buy, I don't have any issue with replacing the metal followers from my Chinese and Romanian magazines with the Weapon Tech Followers. Of course, I now need to buy at least 10 more of these things so that I can "fix" my remaining Chinese, Romanian and Tapco magazines. I will leave a review on the website about them once I get a chance to run them on the range. View Quote Sounds like your good to go. Don't dremel your mags, during development we did it to a few and thought well everyone can do it, but something told me it can't be that easy took it to the range and with in 10 BHO actions the followers was ruined! The WEAPONTECH BHO followers will not let you down and will hold up over 30,000 rounds+ Dimitri |
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this is a pretty neat product.
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Sounds like your good to go. Don't dremel your mags, during development we did it to a few and thought well everyone can do it, but something told me it can't be that easy took it to the range and with in 10 BHO actions the followers was ruined! The WEAPONTECH BHO followers will not let you down and will hold up over 30,000 rounds+ Dimitri View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Got them yesterday, but due to work, kids, chores around the house and being on midnights, I wasn't able to due anything with them until just now. Most of my magazines are Yugo BHO mags, and I'm one of these anal retentive types that prefers to standardize on manual arms when possible. Having 87 different types of mags for my AK's isn't a big deal except that most of them are BHO mags and some are not. I do have some Chinese mags I planned on dremeling off the "nub" to turn them into BHO mags, (did it to one, and it worked, never got around to doing it to the others). I also have some Circle 10 mags, some European mags that I assume are Romanian, and some Tapco mags I was given..... The Weapon Tech BHO Followers have converted Chinese, Romanian, Bulgarian Circle 10, and Tapco mags into BHO mags. I haven't had a chance to test them on the range, but running the bolt by hand and cycling rounds has shown that they work. Since the mags all worked before the BHO followers were installed, and all I did was change followers and not the mags, I do not see how these wont work in firing conditions. Since the Bulgarian Circle 10 Mags have a plastic follower and they're among the most reliable magazines one can buy, I don't have any issue with replacing the metal followers from my Chinese and Romanian magazines with the Weapon Tech Followers. Of course, I now need to buy at least 10 more of these things so that I can "fix" my remaining Chinese, Romanian and Tapco magazines. I will leave a review on the website about them once I get a chance to run them on the range. Sounds like your good to go. Don't dremel your mags, during development we did it to a few and thought well everyone can do it, but something told me it can't be that easy took it to the range and with in 10 BHO actions the followers was ruined! The WEAPONTECH BHO followers will not let you down and will hold up over 30,000 rounds+ Dimitri One Chinese mag with a steel follower was dremeled. It worked, but I don't feel its anywhere near the best way to do this. I don't like doing it because it permanently alters the magazine and leaves bare metal exposed. The Weapon Tech BHO followers are infinitely better IMO/IME as they don't permanently alter the magazine, they don't leave any exposed metal inside where it cannot be effectively kept clean, and they are designed to do what I need them to do. I only did it because I was looking for something just like them but no one was selling/manufacturing them. You guys have fixed that particular problem on all magazines that I own. |
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Chaos, confusion, despair....my work is done here. Murphy
Did you just realize the closest you'll ever be to becoming a hero is wearing your underwear outside your pants? Madcap72 |
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
One Chinese mag with a steel follower was dremeled. It worked, but I don't feel its anywhere near the best way to do this. I don't like doing it because it permanently alters the magazine and leaves bare metal exposed. The Weapon Tech BHO followers are infinitely better IMO/IME as they don't permanently alter the magazine, they don't leave any exposed metal inside where it cannot be effectively kept clean, and they are designed to do what I need them to do. I only did it because I was looking for something just like them but no one was selling/manufacturing them. You guys have fixed that particular problem on all magazines that I own. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By MaxxII:
Got them yesterday, but due to work, kids, chores around the house and being on midnights, I wasn't able to due anything with them until just now. Most of my magazines are Yugo BHO mags, and I'm one of these anal retentive types that prefers to standardize on manual arms when possible. Having 87 different types of mags for my AK's isn't a big deal except that most of them are BHO mags and some are not. I do have some Chinese mags I planned on dremeling off the "nub" to turn them into BHO mags, (did it to one, and it worked, never got around to doing it to the others). I also have some Circle 10 mags, some European mags that I assume are Romanian, and some Tapco mags I was given..... The Weapon Tech BHO Followers have converted Chinese, Romanian, Bulgarian Circle 10, and Tapco mags into BHO mags. I haven't had a chance to test them on the range, but running the bolt by hand and cycling rounds has shown that they work. Since the mags all worked before the BHO followers were installed, and all I did was change followers and not the mags, I do not see how these wont work in firing conditions. Since the Bulgarian Circle 10 Mags have a plastic follower and they're among the most reliable magazines one can buy, I don't have any issue with replacing the metal followers from my Chinese and Romanian magazines with the Weapon Tech Followers. Of course, I now need to buy at least 10 more of these things so that I can "fix" my remaining Chinese, Romanian and Tapco magazines. I will leave a review on the website about them once I get a chance to run them on the range. Sounds like your good to go. Don't dremel your mags, during development we did it to a few and thought well everyone can do it, but something told me it can't be that easy took it to the range and with in 10 BHO actions the followers was ruined! The WEAPONTECH BHO followers will not let you down and will hold up over 30,000 rounds+ Dimitri One Chinese mag with a steel follower was dremeled. It worked, but I don't feel its anywhere near the best way to do this. I don't like doing it because it permanently alters the magazine and leaves bare metal exposed. The Weapon Tech BHO followers are infinitely better IMO/IME as they don't permanently alter the magazine, they don't leave any exposed metal inside where it cannot be effectively kept clean, and they are designed to do what I need them to do. I only did it because I was looking for something just like them but no one was selling/manufacturing them. You guys have fixed that particular problem on all magazines that I own. I am glad to hear that. Its a life time warranty so keep us posted for life lol Dimitri |
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Really? Whats the point of a bolt hold open mag if the bolt closes once you remove it from the weapon lol? I have a bike with square wheels ill sell you real cheap, PM me if interested
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Originally Posted By Hooch33:
Really? Whats the point of a bolt hold open mag if the bolt closes once you remove it from the weapon lol? I have a bike with square wheels ill sell you real cheap, PM me if interested View Quote With full understanding that this is the case I am still interested in these. The one gripe that most American shooters have about the AK is that your hammer can fall on an empty chamber as there is no BHO. Even though the manual of arms for a reload will still require you to rack the charging handle ( as after you take the mag out, the bolt will go forward ) these followers will provide you with an indicator that your weapon is dry ( something that most AR platform shooters become accustomed to and rely on ). |
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Originally Posted By Hooch33:
Really? Whats the point of a bolt hold open mag if the bolt closes once you remove it from the weapon lol? I have a bike with square wheels ill sell you real cheap, PM me if interested View Quote It lets you know that the magazine is empty and not a malfunction. If you don't see the need for one, yay for your side. Spend your money elsewhere.....like bike tires for example. There is a desire for these, therefore they are selling them to people who want them...like me. Capitalism....how does it work? |
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Chaos, confusion, despair....my work is done here. Murphy
Did you just realize the closest you'll ever be to becoming a hero is wearing your underwear outside your pants? Madcap72 |
Lol
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I guess another advantage would be that the hammer is cocked when you change mags so it's easier to charge the bolt. As opposed to dropping the hammer on an empty chamber, reloading, cocking the hammer again.
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Used to think BHO mags were gimmicky. But now, all AK mags must have BHO followers, or bust
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I think this is an excellent idea! Well done!
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Originally Posted By Hooch33:
Really? Whats the point of a bolt hold open mag if the bolt closes once you remove it from the weapon lol? I have a bike with square wheels ill sell you real cheap, PM me if interested View Quote You know your empty and this does not happen! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxoKFQfSDCI Now about the square wheel bike got a pic? Dimitri |
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Originally Posted By avatarhammer:
Used to think BHO mags were gimmicky. But now, all AK mags must have BHO followers, or bust View Quote I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri |
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By avatarhammer:
Used to think BHO mags were gimmicky. But now, all AK mags must have BHO followers, or bust I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri I think I will get some of these and if they hold up, I will work them into my training regimen. If all goes well, I will run these in my AK loadout, as there is an obvious benefit ( to me ) of knowing when my weapon is dry. HOWEVER I will also continue to train with standard mags, to keep up the manual of arms. This is for just in case I'm in such a bad way, that I find myself doing a battlefield pickup to keep my weapon running. Chances are what I grab off of someone who doesn't need it anymore will not also be running BHO AK mags. Just food for thought. |
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Originally Posted By Yankee82nd:
I think I will get some of these and if they hold up, I will work them into my training regimen. If all goes well, I will run these in my AK loadout, as there is an obvious benefit ( to me ) of knowing when my weapon is dry. HOWEVER I will also continue to train with standard mags, to keep up the manual of arms. This is for just in case I'm in such a bad way, that I find myself doing a battlefield pickup to keep my weapon running. Chances are what I grab off of someone who doesn't need it anymore will not also be running BHO AK mags. Just food for thought. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Yankee82nd:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By avatarhammer:
Used to think BHO mags were gimmicky. But now, all AK mags must have BHO followers, or bust I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri I think I will get some of these and if they hold up, I will work them into my training regimen. If all goes well, I will run these in my AK loadout, as there is an obvious benefit ( to me ) of knowing when my weapon is dry. HOWEVER I will also continue to train with standard mags, to keep up the manual of arms. This is for just in case I'm in such a bad way, that I find myself doing a battlefield pickup to keep my weapon running. Chances are what I grab off of someone who doesn't need it anymore will not also be running BHO AK mags. Just food for thought. We tested over 1000 BHO actions on the prototype and it looks as good as new, and why we offer a lifetime warranty. Dimitri |
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
We tested over 1000 BHO actions on the prototype and it looks as good as new, and why we offer a lifetime warranty. Dimitri View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By Yankee82nd:
Originally Posted By PrimaryArms:
Originally Posted By avatarhammer:
Used to think BHO mags were gimmicky. But now, all AK mags must have BHO followers, or bust I run into the " what good is it if the bolt drops?" well you know the gun is empty! I have ran around for over 15+ seconds only to pull the trigger and hear CLICK!!! Thank God it was not in a self defense situation. Dimitri I think I will get some of these and if they hold up, I will work them into my training regimen. If all goes well, I will run these in my AK loadout, as there is an obvious benefit ( to me ) of knowing when my weapon is dry. HOWEVER I will also continue to train with standard mags, to keep up the manual of arms. This is for just in case I'm in such a bad way, that I find myself doing a battlefield pickup to keep my weapon running. Chances are what I grab off of someone who doesn't need it anymore will not also be running BHO AK mags. Just food for thought. We tested over 1000 BHO actions on the prototype and it looks as good as new, and why we offer a lifetime warranty. Dimitri DAMNIT Primary Arms. You got me. YOU GOT ME!! It's not even a sale and the power of ARFCOM and your products has me ordering 6 of these puppies. I'm mostly a 5.45 shooter but my -47 will be trying these out. <shakes fist> I hope I at least get a sticker with my order. |
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I got nine 7.62 Circle 10 with these. My other ones had the old Falcon Arms Chinese style followers made into BHO. Those were a bit of a pain to make into BHO followers as there are spots on the followers I had to clearance to make them rise to almost touch the feed lips. Weapontech BHO followers were drop ins and they work.
I can't wait for the 5.45 version to come out. While you're at it, Dimitri, why not make .223 BHO followers too? You know, the kind Robinson Arms and East Germans use to convert 5.45 mags to load .223 reliably? I always see guys on AK boards looking for those. I'd be in for a few. |
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Originally Posted By beanz2:
I got nine 7.62 Circle 10 with these. My other ones had the old Falcon Arms Chinese style followers made into BHO. Those were a bit of a pain to make into BHO followers as there are spots on the followers I had to clearance to make them rise to almost touch the feed lips. Weapontech BHO followers were drop ins and they work. I can't wait for the 5.45 version to come out. While you're at it, Dimitri, why not make .223 BHO followers too? You know, the kind Robinson Arms and East Germans use to convert 5.45 mags to load .223 reliably? I always see guys on AK boards looking for those. I'd be in for a few. View Quote I am fighting tooth and nail to get 5.45/.223 it will be a while -Dimitri |
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View Quote Already received them. I can confirm that they fit in Chinese mags and work great in a MAK90 functioning the bolt with my hand. I would like to not that if you insert an empty mag on a closed bolt it does make cycling the bolt pretty tough. |
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Good go with Tapco mags?
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Chaos, confusion, despair....my work is done here. Murphy
Did you just realize the closest you'll ever be to becoming a hero is wearing your underwear outside your pants? Madcap72 |
Oh HELL yes... This product was NEEDED.
If it works as intended you guys just made me poorer. Any first hand experience using these in Romanian mags? Do they work? |
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Freakzilla Died Fo Freedom.
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I'll get a couple sets for my truck gun mags. If I like them this will get really expensive.
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Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Psalms 91:5
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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Oh HELL yes... This product was NEEDED. If it works as intended you guys just made me poorer. Any first hand experience using these in Romanian mags? Do they work? View Quote Yes the work great, a Romanian mag was one of the mags used for testing they are GTG -Dimitri |
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Yeah my Yugo didn't come with Yugo mags (go figure) so I haven't had the chance to play with BHO. Being relatively new to AKs I've been buying regular steel combloc mags to get started as well as five Magpuls, and ten Tapco slabsides.
Do y'all know if these will need to be shortened or anything for 20 round Hungarian mags? |
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Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Psalms 91:5
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I do wish you guys would make a steel version. I understand the reasons for polymer, but I would prefer steel.
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Freakzilla Died Fo Freedom.
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I took mine to the range again the other day....
Zero issues throughout the entire range session. 200 rounds of Tula, 5 rounds per magazine, 6 magazines total. Bulgarian Circle 10 mags, Romanian steel, and Chinese. Last round held open each time. I will be buying more of these BHO Followers. |
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Chaos, confusion, despair....my work is done here. Murphy
Did you just realize the closest you'll ever be to becoming a hero is wearing your underwear outside your pants? Madcap72 |
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
I do wish you guys would make a steel version. I understand the reasons for polymer, but I would prefer steel. View Quote We did and they did not work as well, the original Yugo mags had an angle were the follower hit, the standard mags don't have it and metal on metal became very unreliable. These are made from a high strength glass filled polymer and metal bolt hold insert. Try dremeling one and see just how tough they are!!We have sold thousands and have not had a single customer service issue or return. We offer a life time unconditional no questions asked warranty. -Dimitri |
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Better idea. How about a high viz version? Orange or red followers.
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Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Psalms 91:5
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"Nah conditioning sucks, let's squat more!" ~RolandofGilead
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Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Even Magpul is dropping colored pmags since black is stronger. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Better idea. How about a high viz version? Orange or red followers. Even Magpul is dropping colored pmags since black is stronger. Not talking about mags, just the followers. And for those color polymer must be good enough since their AK mags have bright red followers. |
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Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Psalms 91:5
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Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Not talking about mags, just the followers. And for those color polymer must be good enough since their AK mags have bright red followers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Better idea. How about a high viz version? Orange or red followers. Even Magpul is dropping colored pmags since black is stronger. Not talking about mags, just the followers. And for those color polymer must be good enough since their AK mags have bright red followers. ... These followers are getting smacked by an angry bolt... I would use the strongest polymer available. |
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Freakzilla Died Fo Freedom.
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Technically, a chunk of steel is getting smacked. It's worth at least consideration and possibly testing if they think it's doable.
All just took 5 followers out in 20 round Hungarians. I'll be getting more. |
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Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Psalms 91:5
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