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.277 Wolverine (6.8 in a 5.56 Case) (Page 12 of 16)
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Originally Posted By Dvalin_MT: Yep, I'm having a great time with it! http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/c4/.277_Wolverine_Components.html More info on the forum too http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ Originally Posted By Dvalin_MT: Originally Posted By 10mm_: Just found this thread, looks like a neat cartridge. I have some more reading to do but where can I buy a barrel? Yep, I'm having a great time with it! http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/c4/.277_Wolverine_Components.html More info on the forum too http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ |
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Originally Posted By 10mm_:
If I wanted to do a feature on my youtube channel with this cartridge would the OP be the right person to talk to about that? Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Originally Posted By Dvalin_MT:
Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Just found this thread, looks like a neat cartridge. I have some more reading to do but where can I buy a barrel? Yep, I'm having a great time with it! http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/c4/.277_Wolverine_Components.html More info on the forum too http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ Like this guy? Cotton68 I am sure extra publicity is very seldom turned down. 
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Originally Posted By gtfoxy:
Like this guy? Cotton68 I am sure extra publicity is very seldom turned down. Originally Posted By gtfoxy:
Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Originally Posted By Dvalin_MT:
Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Just found this thread, looks like a neat cartridge. I have some more reading to do but where can I buy a barrel? Yep, I'm having a great time with it! http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/c4/.277_Wolverine_Components.html More info on the forum too http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ Like this guy? Cotton68 I am sure extra publicity is very seldom turned down. I would be happy to accomodate. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier: I would be happy to accomodate. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier: Originally Posted By gtfoxy: Originally Posted By 10mm_: Originally Posted By Dvalin_MT: Originally Posted By 10mm_: Just found this thread, looks like a neat cartridge. I have some more reading to do but where can I buy a barrel? Yep, I'm having a great time with it! http://www.maddogweapons.com/store/c4/.277_Wolverine_Components.html More info on the forum too http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ Like this guy? Cotton68 I am sure extra publicity is very seldom turned down. I would be happy to accomodate. |
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Received and will reply shorlty.
Here's a handful done so far: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpUqghwpY9Hw8nijWmH8S7yEic2HO31yT |
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Wow have I neglected this thread. Updates:
Subs running in our 1:7 twist barrels - 150 to 200 grains. Shoot supers from the same barrel. AR15hunter.com has had some kills with theirs... as well as the video of them ringing steel at 500 yards with their build. We offer a half dozen AR pre-fits in various lengths and finishes, and we have about a half dozen Savage pre-fits out there. We have over 380 AR barrels out there now. The Wolverine forum is doing well and growing. People are really enjoying the cartridge and its popularity is growing. Oh and folks are getting some great hog kills as well (one sample below - 80 yards with a 100 grain AccuBond). And, one of our shooters did a pretty good job on the Hitler video... made me laugh... Hitler Reacts to the 277 Wolverine 
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
It's time for it to run free on its own... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/277%20WOLVERINE.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/277%20WOLVERINE%20Gauge_1.jpg Do I hear SAAMI spec? 
Also, any update on the casting side of things? |
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Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Do I hear SAAMI spec?
Also, any update on the casting side of things? Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
It's time for it to run free on its own... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/277%20WOLVERINE.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/277%20WOLVERINE%20Gauge_1.jpg Do I hear SAAMI spec?
Also, any update on the casting side of things? Soon! Yes... in the next few weeks we should have a 220 grain coated cast bullet available for subs... |
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That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier: That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier: That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. I'd be happy to donate some photographs of the projectiles (including comparisons to other rounds) to the cause if you get access Mark. |
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Originally Posted By cjgem:
I've been looking, but could not find what pressures this round runs at. When it goes through SAAMI, they will post their view. It runs in standard AR15 barrels using standard 5.56 bolts so you can expect their views to be similar to the 5.56 maximums. |
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Originally Posted By cjgem:
I've been looking, but could not find what pressures this round runs at. Just some back of the envelope calculations point towards the .277 Wolverine 110gr V-Max factory loads being in the 52,000 psi range +/-. There may be some room at the top for more velocity, but the Wolverine does not have a large case and running handloads in the 60,000 psi + range does not do much for brass life. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
When it goes through SAAMI, they will post their view. It runs in standard AR15 barrels using standard 5.56 bolts so you can expect their views to be similar to the 5.56 maximums. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By cjgem:
I've been looking, but could not find what pressures this round runs at. When it goes through SAAMI, they will post their view. It runs in standard AR15 barrels using standard 5.56 bolts so you can expect their views to be similar to the 5.56 maximums. 55000psi then |
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Originally Posted By cjgem:
55000psi then Originally Posted By cjgem:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By cjgem:
I've been looking, but could not find what pressures this round runs at. When it goes through SAAMI, they will post their view. It runs in standard AR15 barrels using standard 5.56 bolts so you can expect their views to be similar to the 5.56 maximums. 55000psi then More than likely but we'll let them put it in print... |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. |
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Originally Posted By CarpNY:
I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. Originally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. Thanks I'll give it a shot! |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Soon! Yes... in the next few weeks we should have a 220 grain coated cast bullet available for subs... Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
It's time for it to run free on its own... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/277%20WOLVERINE.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/277%20WOLVERINE%20Gauge_1.jpg Do I hear SAAMI spec?
Also, any update on the casting side of things? Soon! Yes... in the next few weeks we should have a 220 grain coated cast bullet available for subs... Look forward to running this through a Savage with some cast of all weights! Let me where I can get the mould if possible. If you need anymore casting help, I would love to help out where possible! |
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Right at a year ago, I was anxiously waiting for a barrel to come to me. I didn't have a clue what I was getting into.
I built an awesome little rifle and love it. My, how this baby as grown!! So proud of the .277 Wlv and Mark(and others). CONGRATS on this. You made Wiki; therefore, you are big time!! |
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Originally Posted By CarpNY:
I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. Originally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. Hey I figured it out! Thanks for leading this horse to water. Now it's a project, ha. I'll see if some other folks would like to populate the data as I get the feeling that if I do it myself, people might think it is skewed/bias. Thanks again. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Hey I figured it out! Thanks for leading this horse to water. Now it's a project, ha. I'll see if some other folks would like to populate the data as I get the feeling that if I do it myself, people might think it is skewed/bias. Thanks again. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. Hey I figured it out! Thanks for leading this horse to water. Now it's a project, ha. I'll see if some other folks would like to populate the data as I get the feeling that if I do it myself, people might think it is skewed/bias. Thanks again. No problem. I happened to open the List of AR platform calibers page in Wikipedia right after reading this thread and noticed that the Wolverine was not listed. It looks like their rep looked through it, cleaned it up and put the message that it needs more links. So, if you have any other articles or reviews about it, that would be one place to start. Also, I don't have any experience with uploading pics to Wikipedia, so someone else could help out with that. |
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Originally Posted By CarpNY:
No problem. I happened to open the List of AR Calibers page in Wikipedia right after reading this thread and noticed that the Wolverine was not listed. Their rep looked through it, cleaned it up and put the message that it needs more links. So, if you have any other articles or reviews about it, that would be one place to start. Also, I don't have any experience with uploading pics to Wikipedia, so someone else could help out with that. Originally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
That's great... is anyone able to edit it or just you? I'm not familiar with how Wiki works but would be happy to help populate it with good data. I had to log in to create a new page, but I believe that anyone can edit it now that it is up there. Hey I figured it out! Thanks for leading this horse to water. Now it's a project, ha. I'll see if some other folks would like to populate the data as I get the feeling that if I do it myself, people might think it is skewed/bias. Thanks again. No problem. I happened to open the List of AR Calibers page in Wikipedia right after reading this thread and noticed that the Wolverine was not listed. Their rep looked through it, cleaned it up and put the message that it needs more links. So, if you have any other articles or reviews about it, that would be one place to start. Also, I don't have any experience with uploading pics to Wikipedia, so someone else could help out with that. I'll work on it. We have plenty to get up there... thanks! |
| hey Mark, When will it be going through SAAMI? Any ideas as to major manufactures who will pick it up? |
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Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
hey Mark, When will it be going through SAAMI? Any ideas as to major manufactures who will pick it up? We'll have to see... we've had some talks with a few folks and although I don't think it's happening tomorrow it sounds like people are watching. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
We'll have to see... we've had some talks with a few folks and although I don't think it's happening tomorrow it sounds like people are watching. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
hey Mark, When will it be going through SAAMI? Any ideas as to major manufactures who will pick it up? We'll have to see... we've had some talks with a few folks and although I don't think it's happening tomorrow it sounds like people are watching. The CIP registration is 50 Euros, but then you have to fly to Europe and persuade an ammo company to certify it, which starts somewhere north of a 100,000 round order, with 50% down payment upfront. |
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Hey, there's evens some factory subsonic ammo available now...
These are for use in the 1:7 twist barrels. We have some heavier sub loads developed for handloaders as well using 200 grain Woodleigh and 200 grain Hawk SP's. http://www.jbsfirearms.com/shoppingcart.asp |
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Originally Posted By RedFalconBill:
The CIP registration is 50 Euros, but then you have to fly to Europe and persuade an ammo company to certify it, which starts somewhere north of a 100,000 round order, with 50% down payment upfront. Originally Posted By RedFalconBill:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
hey Mark, When will it be going through SAAMI? Any ideas as to major manufactures who will pick it up? We'll have to see... we've had some talks with a few folks and although I don't think it's happening tomorrow it sounds like people are watching. The CIP registration is 50 Euros, but then you have to fly to Europe and persuade an ammo company to certify it, which starts somewhere north of a 100,000 round order, with 50% down payment upfront. We are really trying to get the folks at Hornady to take a look... |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Hey, there's evens some factory subsonic ammo available now... These are for use in the 1:7 twist barrels. We have some heavier sub loads developed for handloaders as well using 200 grain Woodleigh and 200 grain Hawk SP's. http://www.jbsfirearms.com/shoppingcart.asp These are a riot to shoot! |
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Originally Posted By RedFalconBill:
The CIP registration is 50 Euros, but then you have to fly to Europe and persuade an ammo company to certify it, which starts somewhere north of a 100,000 round order, with 50% down payment upfront. Originally Posted By RedFalconBill:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
hey Mark, When will it be going through SAAMI? Any ideas as to major manufactures who will pick it up? We'll have to see... we've had some talks with a few folks and although I don't think it's happening tomorrow it sounds like people are watching. The CIP registration is 50 Euros, but then you have to fly to Europe and persuade an ammo company to certify it, which starts somewhere north of a 100,000 round order, with 50% down payment upfront. Looks like I have a contact at Norma now... will let you know how it goes, thanks for the heads up. The 100,000 round order will be fun to fund... but I think I have a nice group of pretty loyal WLV shooters that would chip in/pre-order to get there. The CIP registration will get us closer to SAAMI. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Looks like I have a contact at Norma now... will let you know how it goes, thanks for the heads up. The 100,000 round order will be fun to fund... but I think I have a nice group of pretty loyal WLV shooters that would chip in/pre-order to get there. The CIP registration will get us closer to SAAMI. Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By RedFalconBill:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
hey Mark, When will it be going through SAAMI? Any ideas as to major manufactures who will pick it up? We'll have to see... we've had some talks with a few folks and although I don't think it's happening tomorrow it sounds like people are watching. The CIP registration is 50 Euros, but then you have to fly to Europe and persuade an ammo company to certify it, which starts somewhere north of a 100,000 round order, with 50% down payment upfront. Looks like I have a contact at Norma now... will let you know how it goes, thanks for the heads up. The 100,000 round order will be fun to fund... but I think I have a nice group of pretty loyal WLV shooters that would chip in/pre-order to get there. The CIP registration will get us closer to SAAMI. Thanks. In much of Europe handloading/wildcatting is not legal, so people use factories to develop their rounds, as many manufacturers have a CIP representative on site. There was quite a lot of half truths/misinformtion surrounding Bill Alexander and the 6.5 Grendel. Some of that Bill brought on himself because, as an engineer, he can appear to be brusque. SAAMI also told him that it did not matter what they did in the past because if he ever wanted SAAMI to recognize the Grendel, then he would have to make it open source. Since you have done this Mark, a major hurdle has been removed. AFAIK, Norma does not have a CIP guy on site, but do submit their products for testing. Could be wrong on this. |
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I was only told my next call should be to Norma by someone that knows someone there and all that. I can get the 100,000 round order together if that's what it takes to make it happen. Meanwhile my campaign with Hornady hasn't stopped.
You seem to know a lot about this "part", which I admittedly do not. So, again thanks for the help. I have nothing to gain at this point I just truly believe this is one of the best cartridges developed for general use for the '15 platform. Otherwise I wouldnt have spent all this time and money on it. I haven't profited a dime. And we have about 550 barrels in the field. Gather that! I have yet to hear someone say they don't like it or use it, so that's rewarding. I can't wait to see this upcoming season's hunting pics with 10x the amount of barrels we had in the field vs. last year. We have another project coming, too and have learned a lot. Lots to go. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier: 2675+ with a 110 V-Max out of our 20" AR barrels. JUST SAYIN'! Oh man! Any data on the 90gr TNTs? I need to get me one of those 20s... |
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Originally Posted By Muad:
Oh man! Any data on the 90gr TNTs? I need to get me one of those 20s... Originally Posted By Muad:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
2675+ with a 110 V-Max out of our 20" AR barrels. JUST SAYIN'! Oh man! Any data on the 90gr TNTs? I need to get me one of those 20s... Not yet but we hit 3,000 with them out of the 20" bolt gun. So maybe 2850? 2900 maybe? I know where you can get one of those 20" barrels... |
.277 Wolverine (6.8 in a 5.56 Case) (Page 12 of 16)
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