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6/28/2010 9:29:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Midlength gas system, only a matter of time before the stock system caught up


I like it, but I'm not ready to ditch my A2 Stock on my Aforgery just yet


(ouch esp for $225 )
6/28/2010 9:43:13 PM EDT
[#2]
Ordered one from you guys last week
It looks like just the stock I was looking for for my new Setup!
7/6/2010 10:54:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Is the tube forged by any chance.
7/8/2010 7:07:10 AM EDT
[#4]
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... the buffer is a new hybrid between a M16 buffer and a M4 buffer with a different internal design.


What's the weight?



7/8/2010 8:24:34 AM EDT
[#5]
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... the buffer is a new hybrid between a M16 buffer and a M4 buffer with a different internal design.


What's the weight?





Buffer is 5.3oz

Tube is 4.1oz (compared to 3.7-3.8 for a standard mil spec tube)
7/8/2010 12:47:15 PM EDT
[#6]
I put my BCM A4 upper on another lower. Then I slapped my EMOD stock body on there. Its just a regular six position tube setup. It looks kinda goofy. But when I shoulder it I don't care what it looks like anymore. I care how it works. The adjust-ability is a plus when you're wearing armor or going prone. And I can hand it to my female partner and she can adjust the thing for her. Another plus. She just can't do an A2 stock very well. One size fits all sucks when you're talking about guns.

I still like the A2, but this has me thinking.....
7/28/2010 11:32:10 PM EDT
[#7]
I'll bite...When will they be in stock at Bravo Company?
7/29/2010 10:37:24 AM EDT
[#8]
I don't think they're available yet. Not available on VLTOR's website yet.
7/29/2010 12:07:05 PM EDT
[#9]
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I don't think they're available yet. Not available on VLTOR's website yet.


Operation Parts says they have one OD available
7/29/2010 3:11:15 PM EDT
[#10]
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I don't think they're available yet. Not available on VLTOR's website yet.


I ordered one in tan a few weeks ago, it's currently sitting on my receiver
7/29/2010 4:09:17 PM EDT
[#11]
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I don't think they're available yet. Not available on VLTOR's website yet.


I ordered one in tan a few weeks ago, it's currently sitting on my receiver


Is that the one on the rifle Bob is building for you?
7/30/2010 12:25:32 PM EDT
[#12]
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I don't think they're available yet. Not available on VLTOR's website yet.


I ordered one in tan a few weeks ago, it's currently sitting on my receiver


Is that the one on the rifle Bob is building for you?


Yeahh buddy!
7/30/2010 12:51:58 PM EDT
[#13]
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I don't think they're available yet. Not available on VLTOR's website yet.


I ordered one in tan a few weeks ago, it's currently sitting on my receiver


Is that the one on the rifle Bob is building for you?


Yeahh buddy!


Well you better be in the gym, because its not so LIGHTWEIGHT!  BTW Bob did some amazing work on the trigger. Your going to really like the final product.
7/31/2010 6:42:19 PM EDT
[#14]
What is the OAL of the buffer tube?
8/1/2010 6:05:28 AM EDT
[#15]
I am trying to understand how this new buffer/receiver extension works. It appears from the pictures that the added length of both the tube and buffer is the same resulting in the same length of travel for the BCG. The only significant change to the operation of the system is the spring compression. What am I missing?
8/1/2010 6:51:33 PM EDT
[#16]
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I am trying to understand how this new buffer/receiver extension works. It appears from the pictures that the added length of both the tube and buffer is the same resulting in the same length of travel for the BCG. The only significant change to the operation of the system is the spring compression. What am I missing?


That's what I was thinking.  If you run a standard length carbine tube with carbine length buffer that weighs the same as this new buffer then the spring is the only difference I see.  As you said the stroke is the same.  I don't see how it could run any smoother or softer than a carbine setup.  I am open to the idea that it does something different but I don't see how.    Seems like if you used a AR-10 carbine tube you would gain a little on length, then run a cut down rifle length buffer with this new spring.
8/1/2010 7:12:48 PM EDT
[#17]
I wouldn't mind trying the new receiver extension, buffer and spring on my 16" mid length(BCM) but still be able to utilize my CTR.
8/15/2010 12:02:53 PM EDT
[#18]
It'll look something like this.



8/18/2010 5:32:22 AM EDT
[#19]
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I am trying to understand how this new buffer/receiver extension works. It appears from the pictures that the added length of both the tube and buffer is the same resulting in the same length of travel for the BCG. The only significant change to the operation of the system is the spring compression. What am I missing?


Rifle receiver extensions, springs, and buffers are the best for reliability. This receiver extension, spring, and buffer are just like the rifle system except the front non-functional part of the buffer is removed and the receiver extension is shortened by that same amount. This receiver extension uses the same spring, has nearly as much buffer weight, and has the same length of travel as a rifle system. The advantage it has to a rifle system is that it uses collapsible stocks. The advantage it has to a carbine system is that it is more reliable.
Dustin
8/19/2010 2:00:49 PM EDT
[#20]
as odd as it sounds in my head when described, that actually looks neat to see a real picture.

8/19/2010 2:25:54 PM EDT
[#21]





Mine looks more better than yours.







 
8/19/2010 4:54:11 PM EDT
[#22]
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Mine looks more better than yours.

http://www.545ar.com/bcm20.jpg
 




Oh yea, well my trigger guard is straighter, and my rails are more expensive then your hand guards, so there.
8/19/2010 4:58:45 PM EDT
[#23]
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as odd as it sounds in my head when described, that actually looks neat to see a real picture.





You know I'm  a tall guy. I was over 6' 4" once and then had a neck injury. I lost about an inch, and gained a metal plate and two screws in my neck. I shoot NTCH, and I find that the adjustable stock gives me a much better length, especially shooting prone, and the big EMOD makes it much easier on my neck.

It does look different then what you are used to, but it really does work.

8/19/2010 8:40:07 PM EDT
[#24]



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Mine looks more better than yours.



http://www.545ar.com/bcm20.jpg

 

Oh yea, well my trigger guard is straighter, and my rails are more expensive then your hand guards, so there.


I've got a brand new M5 RAS sitting under my desk, I'm just too cool to install it



 
8/20/2010 1:54:23 PM EDT
[#25]
The A5 kit was designed to use the EMOD stock... because the A5 receiver extension tube is longer, it will stick out of the back of a regular stock when it is fully collapsed.

The A5 tube is ~7.9 inches overall
8/27/2010 10:23:21 AM EDT
[#26]
+1 on a RE/spring/buffer kit offering request.  I already have a pile of eMods on my 20" rifles.
9/10/2010 6:06:20 PM EDT
[#27]
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+1 on a RE/spring/buffer kit offering request.  I already have a pile of eMods on my 20" rifles.


Same thing here, I have all of the stocks I need, but I like the receiver extension, rifle buffer and spring. Put me down for at least 4.
9/11/2010 8:48:24 AM EDT
[#28]
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as odd as it sounds in my head when described, that actually looks neat to see a real picture.





I've passed it around several times now. First impression - from old timers - they hate it. Then they shoulder it. Game over. A true example of function over form. Although I like it.

9/11/2010 9:21:35 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm just hoping these will one day be back in stock, no pun intended.
9/13/2010 5:47:57 AM EDT
[#30]
Hopefully soon.  I might spend the money on something else...
9/13/2010 8:42:33 PM EDT
[#31]
We are shipping out orders for these now, all of the standing commitments should be taken care of in the next few days. Look for commercial availability next week or so. I will make sure to post something in our Industry Forum...
9/14/2010 4:01:41 AM EDT
[#32]
Is this reciever extension the same dimensions as the old VLTOR AR10 extension, previous to Armalite using milspec diameter tubes, which uses the Armalite proprietary AR10 carbine buffer?
9/22/2010 4:25:22 AM EDT
[#33]
When will a 308 AR setup be available?
9/22/2010 7:13:46 PM EDT
[#34]
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I am trying to understand how this new buffer/receiver extension works. It appears from the pictures that the added length of both the tube and buffer is the same resulting in the same length of travel for the BCG. The only significant change to the operation of the system is the spring compression. What am I missing?


the longer spring when compressed over the range of motion from the action of the gun, has a spring coefficient that works better than the carbine ones.  Its more consistent.

The more you compress a spring, the more it pushes back.  Since in a rifle stock, the travel is(just say)20% of the overall spring length, its more consistant than a carbine that is compressed(just say) to 50%.  This new system is somewhere in between.  I dont see how it could actually be better than a rifle though.  The rifle can be tweeked to have the same or better numbers.
9/22/2010 7:32:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Because it's better to have more of that ~5.2oz in the internal weights than the body of the buffer itself.
9/24/2010 7:16:08 AM EDT
[#36]
I'm already running an NIB Emod stock on my new SPR type rifle..... I need that tube, spring and buffer for it.... Now!!!!


Release the tube!
Release the tube!
Release the tube!
.....

Come on everybody!!!!





10/8/2010 7:36:08 AM EDT
[#37]
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I'm already running an NIB Emod stock on my new SPR type rifle..... I need that tube, spring and buffer for it.... Now!!!!


Release the tube!
Release the tube!
Release the tube!
.....

Come on everybody!!!!


this

10/27/2010 4:21:26 AM EDT
[#38]



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will this  stock work on the .308 ar's





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When will a 308 AR setup be available?


Can anybody answer these? This system on my MA-TEN would be great...



 
11/8/2010 6:05:58 AM EDT
[#39]
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I'm already running an NIB Emod stock on my new SPR type rifle..... I need that tube, spring and buffer for it.... Now!!!!


Release the tube!
Release the tube!
Release the tube!
.....

Come on everybody!!!!


this



bump.
11/10/2010 5:08:51 AM EDT
[#40]
Has anyone tried an ACS on the A5-length RE?  Does it collapse completely?

I'm very interested in the new A5 kit for one carbine I'm planning in particular, but I'd also like to consider converting at least one of my ACS equipped carbines to the new recoil system to get some experience with it.
11/10/2010 6:41:07 PM EDT
[#41]
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Has anyone tried an ACS on the A5-length RE?  Does it collapse completely?

Yes

11/10/2010 7:34:39 PM EDT
[#42]
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Has anyone tried an ACS on the A5-length RE?  Does it collapse completely?

Yes



Thank you!

11/25/2010 7:11:17 AM EDT
[#43]
I wonder if this system would tame down my Stag Model 8 piston gun? Or maybe just get a heavier buffer would help. I was looking to get and Emod stock anyway.
12/11/2010 4:30:38 AM EDT
[#44]
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I wonder if this system would tame down my Stag Model 8 piston gun? Or maybe just get a heavier buffer would help. I was looking to get and Emod stock anyway.


No, it won't. Try the heavier buffer.
12/15/2010 10:49:52 AM EDT
[#45]
This development should  prove to be a huge boon to the self-esteem of Canadians.
12/15/2010 11:02:41 AM EDT
[#46]
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I wonder if this system would tame down my Stag Model 8 piston gun? Or maybe just get a heavier buffer would help. I was looking to get and Emod stock anyway.


No, it won't. Try the heavier buffer.


I took a look at 87GN's blog, unless I read it wrong,  running an A5 with the heaviest buffers did indeed tame the pistons.
12/15/2010 1:24:09 PM EDT
[#47]



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I wonder if this system would tame down my Stag Model 8 piston gun? Or maybe just get a heavier buffer would help. I was looking to get and Emod stock anyway.


I use Spike's ST-T2 or an H2, but all of my pistons are SBR's!



 
12/21/2010 7:31:52 PM EDT
[#48]
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I wonder if this system would tame down my Stag Model 8 piston gun? Or maybe just get a heavier buffer would help. I was looking to get and Emod stock anyway.

I use Spike's ST-T2 or an H2, but all of my pistons are SBR's!
 


So this setup won't work on a SBR?
12/26/2010 9:24:01 AM EDT
[#49]
+1+  on availability of the A5 Tube, Spring, and buffer.  Would love to try this on my iMod.
12/26/2010 12:27:32 PM EDT
[#50]
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+1+  on availability of the A5 Tube, Spring, and buffer.  Would love to try this on my iMod.

Vltor is selling the parts on their webstore

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