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You do you. If that's what you want and think, fine.

I don't want a pistol. I can keep the SBR loaded in my car and it's legal, even concealed. People need to know the laws of the people they argue this with, meaning states like mine where I am legally privileged more than them.

If I cross state lines then I'm driving a significant amount of distance through large amounts of open space. Who in their right mind wants a short barrel anything when a 14.5 pinned and welded, or even a 16 is best for this? Exactly.

The VFG helps me control the rifle with the way I shoot and it gives me more real estate to hold onto to make up for the lack of rail length.

I use the stock in the same position too; fully extended. Unless it's cold and I have extra layers then I move closer either one or two clicks. I like having that option.

And a stock is stronger and more durable than a blade as there's a lot of difference between feeling recoil and being unpleasant to cheek weld and having an actual comfortable stock that is pleasurable and comfortable to cheek weld.

I don't like the NFA laws but until it goes away I'm going to pay to play. It's my money, I'll do what I want with it and I don't care what others think about it. They have no say in the matter anyways.

So if you want to have a pistol, it's your money and not mine. I just don't see any valid reason for ME to want one because it's pointless and no one's argument will ever change my mind about it.

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Yup, that's the one.

A loaded rifle in the car and concealed or not, perfectly legal. Now nun chuks, that's the one that will land you in jail, no joke.

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No, you’re just mad you paid $200 and had to ask permission to put a stock on your gun. Period.

There is ZERO difference in speed between an SBR and a pistol. Who cares if it’s a tad more uncomfortable. Quite honestly I don’t even notice.

It’s laughab that you think your wall of text is correct or anyone cares. I laugh my ass off at my uncle who’s 6 months into his SBR wait. I laugh at him every time we shoot. I’m shooting my 10.5.  He isn’t because ATF.

You sound like those guys who looks down his nose at people who don’t spend $3500 on an AR and thinks any cheaper option is junk.

But have fun with your opinion. I’ll be having fun with my pistol that has less restrictions than your “I got my permission” gun.

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Nah, he's quite right actually. A real stock is superior in everyway except for the circumstances of being compliant with state laws.

It's not spending $200 to put a stock on.., it's spending $200 to have a short barrel rifle, something 99% of the rest of the population does not have. Plus you're not accounting for those of us that see the $200 fee and wait as well worth it. IMO it's a small inconvenience to have something so exclusive and superior for CQB and home defense purposes.

Besides, saying he "paid $200 for permission" to use a stock is no different from me saying you paid $125 because you DON'T have permission. Also I assure you your "uncle" will have the last laugh.

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With a pistol, you do not need permission.  "so exclusive and superior for CQB and home defense purposes?" LMAO!
You paid $200 on top of what you already paid for your stock.

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Everybody has their own idea of what is best.

The problem is, everybody thinks what is best for them, is best for others.

It is not.

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This needs to be seen again, couldn't have said it any better...and the sole reason this thread continues to argue.

An AR pistol is a solid compromise for people who prefer not to jump through the hoops of filling out paperwork and paying $200. Whether it be time until full assembly/use, financially conscious or the principal of giving the government money for a stamp. That's literally it.

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I've run a legal length upper on my pistol lower because I put a better trigger than what's in my rifle lower. I enjoyed it. With the SBM4, I'll never own an AR with a barrel longer than 14.5 ever again unless it's a precision set up that would run a stock that I would run ONLY on a precision gun. We can go back and forth, and you can tell me that my ego is hurt all you want, but when it comes down to it, I don't have to ask permission to take my MK18 on a road trip.

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I wasn't going back and forth.  I simply asked a couple of questions, it's what we do here.
I already conceded that the braces had come a long way, but you saying the braces were better than a M4 stock was the first I had seen posted, so I asked an honest question.  
I accept that you prefer the brace to a stock, other than your precision rifle.  Just the first time I had ever read it.
Ego?  Never mentioned that either, you pistol guys are on the defense, and I was not attacking.
The permission thing, and the principal of all of this has really got you wound up.  It's fine, but I really was just asking.
I have cranked out those "permission" forms in under a minute, but I would likely grab a pinned 14.5 if I was going into another state.  I have a few that I really like.  For me, it just isn't a big deal to do.