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Posted: 5/23/2019 8:48:13 PM EDT
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eotech exps3
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Posted: 5/23/2019 8:49:57 PM EDT
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There're going to be a ton a great RDS suggestions, but I would like to suggest the Primary Arms Cyclops 1x or Vortex Spitfire 1x prismatics.
I personally use the Gen 1 Vortex Spitifires (model 1301, NON AR model) and can recommend them if you're willing to hunt one down. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 8:53:33 PM EDT
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Some sort of red dot optic is what you want. I'm a fan of Aimpoint personally. Eotech is also good as well.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 8:58:53 PM EDT
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High speed guys consistently use eotech, despite the issues of years ago.
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Posted: 5/23/2019 9:40:53 PM EDT
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Vortex UH1
Aimpoint T1/T2 or H1/H2 Aimpoint Pro Trijicon MRO Eotech EXPS Aimpoint Comp M4/5 All are well within your budget. Select one that fits your needs, but all are more than capable. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 10:08:03 PM EDT
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Vortex UH1 Aimpoint T1/T2 or H1/H2 Aimpoint Pro Trijicon MRO Eotech EXPS Aimpoint Comp M4/5 All are well within your budget. Select one that fits your needs, but all are more than capable. 500 series or EXPS/XPS (transverse battery compartment) all just as reliable. Years ago may have shown issues with the 500 series but those issues are in the past. |
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Posted: 5/23/2019 11:01:36 PM EDT
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First post does it again
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Posted: 5/23/2019 11:52:19 PM EDT
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T2 or Comp m5 whichever battery type you prefer.
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:33:26 AM EDT
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Aimpoint
Eotech LPVO All personal preference |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:54:51 AM EDT
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I'm sure any recommendations in here will serve you well.
I prefer the MRO. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 5:52:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Eotech, it's as fast to get on target as it gets in the RDS game.
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Posted: 5/24/2019 6:04:41 PM EDT
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Eotech, it's as fast to get on target as it gets in the RDS game. My second favorite is MRO. I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve run reaction time drills at 7 and 10 yards and the Aimpoint Micro objective and FOV is too small for me. Both eyes open is not an excuse. I shoot all optics both eyes open. Window size is key if fast CQB shooting is priority. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 8:16:07 PM EDT
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IDF Elbit Falcon from 1990s...just saying
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Posted: 5/24/2019 8:23:33 PM EDT
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This. My second favorite is MRO. I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve run reaction time drills at 7 and 10 yards and the Aimpoint Micro objective and FOV is too small for me. Both eyes open is not an excuse. I shoot all optics both eyes open. Window size is key if fast CQB shooting is priority. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eotech, it's as fast to get on target as it gets in the RDS game. My second favorite is MRO. I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve run reaction time drills at 7 and 10 yards and the Aimpoint Micro objective and FOV is too small for me. Both eyes open is not an excuse. I shoot all optics both eyes open. Window size is key if fast CQB shooting is priority. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 8:36:10 PM EDT
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Aimpoint Micro, Trijicon MRO, or if on a budget, Holosun HS503GU. Aside from Eotechs being big and bulky, the majority I’ve owned have sucked down the battery when not in use. Half the time I would go to turn it on, it wouldn’t work. Will never buy another.
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Posted: 5/24/2019 9:55:53 PM EDT
[#16]
duplicate
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Posted: 5/24/2019 10:16:21 PM EDT
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Another vote for Eotech. Fast as it gets. Proven and a damn good value for the 512s these days.
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Posted: 5/24/2019 11:16:04 PM EDT
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Another vote for Eotech. Fast as it gets. Proven and a damn good value for the 512s these days. |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 11:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FiL had one die in a safe...sitting doing nothing. The 512 would be the last EoT I'd buy |
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Posted: 5/24/2019 11:42:45 PM EDT
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eotech exps3 |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 1:46:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FiL had one die in a safe...sitting doing nothing. The 512 would be the last EoT I'd buy |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 2:44:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My exps2 has been flawless, 17" production date. I'd pick up a new production 512 no problem if I needed another RDS. Besides, I've seen M4s, Patrols, MROs, and RMRs die, they're all susceptible to failure. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 3:13:55 AM EDT
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Since Aimpoint and Eotech have already been covered, I’ll throw in Holosun. The 510c will have the largest window from the Holosun offerings. Advantages include...
-Auto-wake (pick up the rifle, and it’s ready to go) -50k hour battery life -Solar power backup -3 reticle choices in one About 1/4 of your budget. Leaves a lot of money leftover for ammo, training, accessories, etc. While I don’t own a 510c, I’ve got a few Holosun optics. Been perfectly reliable for me, and I’ll continue to buy more. My favorite is the 503g. It’s basically the same size as an Aimpoint T1/T2. Has all of the above features; minus the solar. Reticles are also little different. Which is what I like it for. Chevron and horseshoe for close up work. 1 MOA BDC dots below the chevron to get you out to 600. Paired with a magnifier, it’s absolutely awesome. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 7:49:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Aimpoint Micro, Trijicon MRO, or if on a budget, Holosun HS503GU. Aside from Eotechs being big and bulky, the majority I’ve owned have sucked down the battery when not in use. Half the time I would go to turn it on, it wouldn’t work. Will never buy another. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 8:20:48 AM EDT
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There us nothing better than an EOTech for the purpose you describe.
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Posted: 5/25/2019 8:36:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Since Aimpoint and Eotech have already been covered, I’ll throw in Holosun. The 510c will have the largest window from the Holosun offerings. Advantages include... -Auto-wake (pick up the rifle, and it’s ready to go) -50k hour battery life -Solar power backup -3 reticle choices in one About 1/4 of your budget. Leaves a lot of money leftover for ammo, training, accessories, etc. While I don’t own a 510c, I’ve got a few Holosun optics. Been perfectly reliable for me, and I’ll continue to buy more. My favorite is the 503g. It’s basically the same size as an Aimpoint T1/T2. Has all of the above features; minus the solar. Reticles are also little different. Which is what I like it for. Chevron and horseshoe for close up work. 1 MOA BDC dots below the chevron to get you out to 600. Paired with a magnifier, it’s absolutely awesome. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 8:52:29 AM EDT
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Aimpoint
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Posted: 5/25/2019 9:54:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
My exps2 has been flawless, 17" production date. I'd pick up a new production 512 no problem if I needed another RDS. Besides, I've seen M4s, Patrols, MROs, and RMRs die, they're all susceptible to failure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: FiL had one die in a safe...sitting doing nothing. The 512 would be the last EoT I'd buy |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 1:18:13 PM EDT
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Aimpoint M4S or PRO, absolute cowitness with a fixed front sight, be it the A2 FSP or a Daniel Defense mounted on a rail.
My reasoning behind this is if you have reticle washout, battery dies, optic dies you can use the Aimpoint as a big ghost ring centering the fsp and you can still reliably make hits at across the room, down the hall, etc. distances. I had a Bushnell TRS die once in a match. That stage had very short distances and I only had a few targets left when it died. I finished it using the above technique, instead of wasting time flipping up my rear sight, with 100% A zone hits. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 2:21:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Since Aimpoint and Eotech have already been covered, I’ll throw in Holosun. The 510c will have the largest window from the Holosun offerings. Advantages include... -Auto-wake (pick up the rifle, and it’s ready to go) -50k hour battery life -Solar power backup -3 reticle choices in one About 1/4 of your budget. Leaves a lot of money leftover for ammo, training, accessories, etc. While I don’t own a 510c, I’ve got a few Holosun optics. Been perfectly reliable for me, and I’ll continue to buy more. My favorite is the 503g. It’s basically the same size as an Aimpoint T1/T2. Has all of the above features; minus the solar. Reticles are also little different. Which is what I like it for. Chevron and horseshoe for close up work. 1 MOA BDC dots below the chevron to get you out to 600. Paired with a magnifier, it’s absolutely awesome. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 2:47:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On my PCC I have the 510C, for the $ spent it is a good optic. Shake awake, good battery life. What kills the EoTech for a home defense optic is no shake awake or quick way to turn it on and battery life is not very good to leave on all the time like an Aimpoint or even the 510C. 
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Posted: 5/25/2019 3:45:38 PM EDT
[#32]
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There us nothing better than an EOTech for the purpose you describe. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 3:47:34 PM EDT
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Do you think it's as fast as the Eotech? I still use Holosun, I don't use EOTech. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 5:46:41 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Since Aimpoint and Eotech have already been covered, I’ll throw in Holosun. The 510c will have the largest window from the Holosun offerings. Advantages include... -Auto-wake (pick up the rifle, and it’s ready to go) -50k hour battery life -Solar power backup -3 reticle choices in one About 1/4 of your budget. Leaves a lot of money leftover for ammo, training, accessories, etc. While I don’t own a 510c, I’ve got a few Holosun optics. Been perfectly reliable for me, and I’ll continue to buy more. My favorite is the 503g. It’s basically the same size as an Aimpoint T1/T2. Has all of the above features; minus the solar. Reticles are also little different. Which is what I like it for. Chevron and horseshoe for close up work. 1 MOA BDC dots below the chevron to get you out to 600. Paired with a magnifier, it’s absolutely awesome. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 5:53:35 PM EDT
[#35]
no such thing
there is only what is best for you given the situation |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 5:54:47 PM EDT
[#36]
eotech
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Posted: 5/25/2019 6:34:18 PM EDT
[#37]
A good duty grade always ready 24/7 HD or CQB choice:
Leupold motion-activated Deltapoint Pro w/ 7.5 MOA triangle reticle. Over 50% greater FOV that Aimpoint Micro. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 6:37:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As someone that has run both competitively, yes. I still use Holosun, I don't use EOTech. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 7:13:45 PM EDT
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AimPoint or Eotech according to preference. I prefer being always able to leave the AP on, and though while they’re both duty grade I’d trust the AP to survive more than the EO. I prefer the EoTech in actual use though, in that it has a hugeass forgiving window and I subjectively prefer the reticle. While there are no doubt other fine options, these two are what I’d be using.
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Posted: 5/25/2019 7:34:11 PM EDT
[#40]
I shoot faster with an Eotech and I think most people probably do to. Not by much but a tiny bit.
But I’d go with an aimpoint for hd so you can leave it on all the time. Set the brightness inside your house at night with your weaponlight and leave it there. One less thing to fuck with in the middle of the night. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 8:42:11 PM EDT
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Do you think it's as fast as the Eotech? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: On my PCC I have the 510C, for the $ spent it is a good optic. Shake awake, good battery life. What kills the EoTech for a home defense optic is no shake awake or quick way to turn it on and battery life is not very good to leave on all the time like an Aimpoint or even the 510C. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 8:43:56 PM EDT
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Shit battery life makes it a non-starter for HD use as far as I'm concerned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There us nothing better than an EOTech for the purpose you describe. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 9:53:04 PM EDT
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It's not as fast as an EOTech, it's nearly biologically impossible considering it's red dot vs holo tech and your eyes/brain are not having to change focus planes constantly with the EOTech. Maybe it's nearly as fast or close enough you don't percieve it, but it's NOT as fast and it sure won't be as accurate at CQB ranges considering the parallax delta between the two. But hey, battery life FTW I guess. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 10:01:57 PM EDT
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Whatever you shoot the fastest most naturally. My fav rds is still the rm06. I’ve pretty much never taken it off auto adjust. The wml was enough feed back that the sight recognizes it and adjusts for me.
I have used Eotechs, aimpoint, lpvo and originally learned cqb on an m16a4 with an ACOG mounted to it. Just pick what fancies you and have at it. Fwiw eotechs are my favorite for cqb but the short ass battery life gets it disqualified from my personal stable to defensive use. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 11:33:45 PM EDT
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The EoTech needs shake awake to be a home defensive weapon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There us nothing better than an EOTech for the purpose you describe. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 11:35:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Times and scores say differently in the real world. Holosun is more popular with the PCC or carbine match crowd because those shooters often use the same weapon for home defense and don't like the EOTech battery life for their personal weapons. When the government buys you all the CR123's you want, battery life is no longer a factor. When that happens and you have your choice of any optic that is going to save your ass in a CQB gunfight, its EOTech. It is the quickest, period, regardless of what your competition buddies would have you believe. If red dot technology was faster, that would be on HUD display in our fighter jets instead of hologpraphy. |
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Posted: 5/25/2019 11:56:22 PM EDT
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How about a light and a laser.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 2:03:35 AM EDT
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LMAO. The real world is where the targets shoots back, and no one is choosing holosun for that course. Holosun is more popular with the PCC or carbine match crowd because those shooters often use the same weapon for home defense and don't like the EOTech battery life for their personal weapons. When the government buys you all the CR123's you want, battery life is no longer a factor. When that happens and you have your choice of any optic that is going to save your ass in a CQB gunfight, its EOTech. It is the quickest, period, regardless of what your competition buddies would have you believe. If red dot technology was faster, that would be on HUD display in our fighter jets instead of hologpraphy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Times and scores say differently in the real world. Holosun is more popular with the PCC or carbine match crowd because those shooters often use the same weapon for home defense and don't like the EOTech battery life for their personal weapons. When the government buys you all the CR123's you want, battery life is no longer a factor. When that happens and you have your choice of any optic that is going to save your ass in a CQB gunfight, its EOTech. It is the quickest, period, regardless of what your competition buddies would have you believe. If red dot technology was faster, that would be on HUD display in our fighter jets instead of hologpraphy. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 3:17:25 AM EDT
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Aimpoint t2. Built like a tank, battery life to eternety.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 3:25:04 AM EDT
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Aimpoint.
Any of the Comps, PRO, or the micros. |
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