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9/19/2004 1:06:31 PM EDT
[#1]
+1 for using hex screw instead of the oversized knobs.  That way you can just <infomercial>"set it and forget it"</informercial>.
9/19/2004 1:14:35 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I agree that a lot of folks don't run NV. I would still rather remove a mount without ANY tools (personal pref.)...

C4



Understood.  I'm the opposite.  I only want QD if it is actually necessary for the application I have in mind for said rifle.  Meaning, If I think I *might* run NV on it, then yes, a QD lever would be required IMO...but unless I actually BUY some NV equipment (which won't likely happen for a while), my personal preference shifts towards the semi-perm A1 style as shown here...IF it is priced at the same level as the LaRue.  Ideally, I'd like a non-QD LaRue mount, but I've talked to Mr. LaRue about such a thing a few times (as well as other things) and I know such is not on the horizon.  LaRue does market its stuff to my "actual & current operator" brethren...so I understand their production standpoint.    

Since in all likelihood, this A1 BUIS will settle in the $90-100 range, I'll probably opt to not take a loss on my LaRue, keep it, and look on enviously as others have all the fun.  

Anyway...I think that for the "good of this thread" ... we should get back to discussing the CNC A1 site...and not the LaRue one.  



I honestly like HEX screws rather than big knobs infront of my charging handle so I am with you there. Since you already have the best A1 BUIS on the market (IMHO) you don't need to look at anyone elses A1 with envy!


C4
9/19/2004 1:22:15 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Since you already have the best A1 BUIS on the market (IMHO) you don't need to look at anyone elses A1 with envy!
C4



LOL...  Somehow I knew somthing like that was coming.  
9/19/2004 3:18:30 PM EDT
[#4]
I just want the quick-detach feature because of the coolness factor.  Will I ever need to remove it, let alone in the dark or under stress... most probably never.  There are other sights out there that have the quick-detach feature, so I'm personally pushing for it because I think it will make a great sight better.  This is a chance to get a one-of-a-kind limited production item, available nowhere else, and not sold in stores. htFAL Files and there is a need for custom parts, and quality made reproductions of original, hard-to-find/rare parts for the FN FAL.  Some vendors have produced quality US made stuff, other items have been made (poorly) overseas.  To have someone like Justin here producing quality parts in small lots and listening to your wants/ideas (like the A1 quick-detach charging handles) is a Godsend.  Take advantage of it while you can!  You guys should be bombarding him with ideas. A quick-deach feature on this sight (in my opinion) will make this a better choice than any of the other sights currently produced... unless you're looking for a sight with an elevation adjustment.  
9/22/2004 8:17:39 AM EDT
[#5]
Debate over the various sights is good, it leads to inovation.  I want one of these and a LaRue to go with my LMT buis, A1 carry handle, A2 Carry handle, and ARMS 40,  because this is the USA and I can have them all.  Everytime I buy an accessory that I have nothing to mount it on, I buy something new to mount it on.  It's good for the industry and us.
9/22/2004 8:58:53 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Everytime I buy an accessory that I have nothing to mount it on, I buy something new to mount it on.  It's good for the industry and us.



ain't that the truth!  
9/27/2004 8:02:48 AM EDT
[#7]
Whats goin on with this?
9/27/2004 8:41:22 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

I personally believe that ALL mounts (including BUIS's) should be able to be removed without tools. If an operator wants to attach a NV device to the weapon, they will have to remove the A1. I personally don't want to be looking for an allen wrench in the dark.


Since you already have "your" A1 BUIS, let's leave this one the way it is so I can get what I want too.  

I don't like knobs or levers or anything else sticking out of my BUIS.  If I needed it to go away in a hurry, I'd rather use a fold-down rather than a detachable anyway.  What happens to the "operator" when that rear sight falls out of his pocket while he's in a ditch using his NVS?

At any rate, I think that levers would funk up this particular design which was originally intended for the "simples" in the group.

For any of you that remember all my discussions about elevation knobs and how much I like them, you'll realize this is a BIG step for me... BUT...

IF you can get the price of this sight under $80, then I'm in for one... (shock, gasp)  After all, if I want to use my elevation wheel and shoot at 500 yard iron maidens, I can use my soon to be "short varmint rifle" and the KAC 200 - 600 meter BUIS.

Seriously, <$80 and I'm in!  >$80 and I just can't justify it though.  Thanks!
9/27/2004 4:59:26 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm definitely in for one.  I've been looking for a lightweight, simple, rugged yet elegant sight for my lightweight SHTF carbine, and I think this is it.  I like the fact that it isn't a QD (too much hardware), its simple, and it looks like a rear sight on an AR should.  Any word on production time?  
9/27/2004 5:24:29 PM EDT
[#10]
I tried to contact R4fan (the person who started this thread) the other day about this, but I haven't gotten a reply yet.  We need to take another count to see how many we have so far.  I need to get a 20 piece order before I start production.  When we get the min. order number, is anybody here up for getting this group buy together?  I would rather one person be in charge of it, since I'd rather make one shipment instead of 20 different shipments.  I'm ready to start on these as soon as the #20 is reached.  And since it doesn't look like it will be much over 20 pieces, I think the price will probably stay around $95 each.  If we can get alot more than 20, the price can drop some.

Justin
9/27/2004 5:52:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Definately in for one.
9/27/2004 5:56:02 PM EDT
[#12]
I'm still in for 1 of those sights (darn that impulse buying )  Normally I'm a cheapskate and just want whatever works, but I really like the way it looks; I think it has the elegance and style that's missing from the current crop of sights.  The screw instead of the huge knob is a must, since its going to remain on my lightweight SHTF carbine as a permanent rear sight.  Any word on how long this'll take?  I'm in no super hurry, but I do need to set some funds aside, not to mention finding the sight parts (anyone care to point me in the right direction?)
9/30/2004 5:28:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Hey Justin,

I'm still here.  I recently moved, and my internet service won't be installed until this Wednesday. I'm at my wife's office using her computer to catch up on e-mail.  So I'll be back soon!
10/4/2004 1:42:35 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I tried to contact R4fan (the person who started this thread) the other day about this, but I haven't gotten a reply yet.  We need to take another count to see how many we have so far.  I need to get a 20 piece order before I start production.  When we get the min. order number, is anybody here up for getting this group buy together?  I would rather one person be in charge of it, since I'd rather make one shipment instead of 20 different shipments.  I'm ready to start on these as soon as the #20 is reached.  And since it doesn't look like it will be much over 20 pieces, I think the price will probably stay around $95 each.  If we can get alot more than 20, the price can drop some.

Justin




I'll get the group buy together this week, once I get internet access in my new house.  I'm going crazy checking my e-mail here and there.  We should have at least 20 orders by now.  I should be back on here tomorrow or wednesday, so I'll take a head count then.
10/8/2004 5:41:35 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm finally back after dealing with no internet and finally a computer virus...

Okay, I've completed an updated list of those who want and/or are intersted in the A1 BUIS.  Some have clearly stated that they want one, some are interested, and others are waiting for a price decrease.  For those of you that want one of these, please let me know by posting to the thread.  For those that are still undecided, we need to know if you want one or not.  Please check for your name in my list to make sure I got your "I want one" or not.  If you don't want one, let me know so I can remove your name from the list.

Justin (CNC Gunsmithing) has stated that he needs to get a 20 piece order before he starts production.  Unless we get alot more than 20 pieces ordered, it looks like these will be around $95.00 each.  20 is the magic number.  If you want one, speak up now!

Since I want one of these sights badly, I'll gladly volunteer myself to head the group buy of the A1 BUIS sights.  I haven't done one of these before, but I'm sure someone will explain to me how it works.  As long as the shipping/insurance is covered, I have no problem repacking them and mailing them out.  If I can re-ship them out US Priority mail,  I can get the boxes for free.  The only thing I can think of is for the payment to be sent to me via U.S. Postal money order, so I don't have to wait for any personal checks to clear.  But... I'm getting ahead of myself.  To check the list, go to the first page and check my initial post on the A1 BUIS.
10/8/2004 5:59:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks for the update R4. Hopefully we can get just a couple more people in on this!
10/8/2004 6:15:49 PM EDT
[#17]
For those of you that are undecided:

http://www.cncgunsmithing.com/images/P8210139.JPG

Act now... not sold in stores!
10/8/2004 11:10:36 PM EDT
[#18]
In for 3. Thanks R4fan
10/9/2004 12:43:07 AM EDT
[#19]
I am in for one also. When do you need the funds?
10/9/2004 2:44:06 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I am in for one also. When do you need the funds?



As soon as we reach a definate 20 sights that are spoken for and I've worked out the details with Justin, I'll most likely ask for payment then.  Counting you, we are up to 18 with two more to go.
10/9/2004 6:06:26 AM EDT
[#21]
Make that 19, I'm in for 1.
10/9/2004 8:32:00 AM EDT
[#22]
Hi R4fan,

I haven't checked this thread in a while.  I see you have me down for one but as my post (quoted below) indicates, I was hoping it would come in at $80-85 and have a hex nut (so I could complete it for $90 or so).  Now that I see the price and final specs have been set, I'm out.  It still looks nice...just not for me.


Quoted:

Quoted:
I like the hex screw instead of the big ass knob (as found on most carry handles).  I am definately in for one.  I really like this option...



Same here.  I just picked up a LaRue...but I would have picked this over it hands down (nothing against LaRue...I still love my Aimpoint mount from them).  Anyway, I am tenatively "in" for one, but I too would like to see the price closer to $80 if I am going to sell off my LaRue for it.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

10/9/2004 12:58:07 PM EDT
[#23]
No problem warriorsociologist, I'll take you off the list.  I'll need everyone to eventually confirm what they want before any funds are sent. he

10/9/2004 2:37:03 PM EDT
[#24]
I'm in. Looks great compared to the Larue and CA offerings.
10/9/2004 5:55:11 PM EDT
[#25]
WOO HOO!  We're at 21 total so far. he

10/10/2004 5:14:28 PM EDT
[#26]
We have met the minimum (20) order requirement so we get a little closer to getting these.   What I need now is for everyone that has posted that they want one of the A1 BUIS sights to e-mail me the following:

1.  Your AR-15.com screen name
2.  How many sights you want
3.  Your real name/shipping address (where you want your sight shipped to)/contact info


I need this info so I can confirm everyone's order, so nothing gets screwed up.  For those that are still unsure or don't send me an e-mail, I'll contact those people myself and see if they are still in this group buy.

I also need this info so I have everyone's e-mail/contact/shipping info so I don't have to ask for it in the future.  As I get these e-mails, I'll highlight your screen name (in red) in the list on the first page so you know everythings up-to-date.

The next step after this is done will be sending me the payments, after I confirm everything with Justin.  So start  e-mailing me so we can get this done!    

As always, check the first page for any updates!


10/12/2004 3:23:23 AM EDT
[#27]
BTT
10/12/2004 10:28:10 AM EDT
[#28]
Off Comms till 20Oct - (and need to confirm paypal acc't for more fund transfers) payment will be sent in then.
-Kevin
10/12/2004 1:15:58 PM EDT
[#29]
No problem Kevin.  I don't have PayPal though, when I get to asking for payments I'll have to take a check or money order.  Right now I just need to confirm that we have at least 20 definite orders so we can proceed with this group buy, and get everyone's shipping address/contact information.
10/12/2004 1:52:40 PM EDT
[#30]
I just e-mailed everyone on both the "I want" and "maybe" lists, just to get this whole thing moving a little faster.  Everyone that showed interest was contacted, just so I don't leave anyone out.  Once your information is sent to me, your name will be highlighted in red.  If you are definitely not interested, your name will be removed from either list.  No payment is due at this time.  See my first post for further information.
10/12/2004 1:59:14 PM EDT
[#31]
I'll stick with my ARMS #40
10/12/2004 2:47:51 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
I'll stick with my ARMS #40



Was that even necessary?
10/12/2004 3:03:40 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'll stick with my ARMS #40



Was that even necessary?



I was thinking that myself.  Just what I need, to make this thread even longer so I have to search through troll posts.  Unless you're interested in buying a sight, or are on one of the lists and don't want one, there is no need to post in this thread. We already discussed other manufacturer's sights.  
10/12/2004 5:59:38 PM EDT
[#34]
If you want to be a dick then sell your shit on the EE

P.S.  I was being nice before.........now I'll be honest.  That A1 sight looks gay and I think it's a total waste of money.  
10/12/2004 6:07:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Don't feed the
See what happens?
10/12/2004 6:27:24 PM EDT
[#36]
God the trolls are getting really annoying.
10/12/2004 7:00:26 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
If you want to be a dick then sell your shit on the EE

P.S.  I was being nice before.........now I'll be honest.  That A1 sight looks gay and I think it's a total waste of money.  



First off, you weren't being nice, you were just being sarcastic.   Anyone with common courtesy would have kept their comments to themselves.  Unless you can't read, I was posting for those that are interested, not asking for your opinion on other products out there.  Using profanity just shows your intelligence level.  

Now does your mom know you're up this late?


I was on AR-15.com years ago and left because of the trolls/petty arguements.  Does this place moderate these trolls severly?  He should be booted just for the profanity.
10/12/2004 7:07:17 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I was on AR-15.com years ago and left because of the trolls/petty arguements.  Does this place moderate these trolls severly?  He should be booted just for the profanity.



No. If you ignore them and don't respond (take the bait) then they are an annoyance, but get bored and go away. Responding to their posts will do nothing but degenerate the thread, which is what they want. He's already got a rise out of you, next he'll have some come back and try and justify his post, and dragging the thread into a morass of namecalling and stupidity. Best just to ignore them.
10/12/2004 7:07:57 PM EDT
[#39]
haha..... I guess it's true what they say.... "Opinions are like ass holes....everybody has one" haha

Well that's a first for me, I never had anybody refer to my work as "gay" haha.  So I guess...uhhh... thanks ?????     As for myself, I don't think any firearms or firearm parts are "gay"....  In my opinon, if it has anything to do with firearms, I LIKE IT  

AR-shoot-r probably doesn't even own a firearm...haha

Justin
10/12/2004 8:20:14 PM EDT
[#40]
I'm too tired to wade through the s to find the final $$

How much is it and does that include the A1 parts...

Thanks
10/13/2004 2:04:18 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I'm too tired to wade through the s to find the final $$

How much is it and does that include the A1 parts...

Thanks



Onslaught,

So far it's going to be around $95 without the internal sight parts, unless we get more buyers.  I suppose once we get a final head count, Justin will give us a definite price.  I haven't even considered shipping costs yet.
10/13/2004 2:12:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Just curious, where would I be able to get A1 rear sight parts?  
10/13/2004 2:14:57 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
Just curious, where would I be able to get A1 rear sight parts?  



Anyone who supplies AR parts (Bushmaster, Armalite, etc.).  I'm going to use Ashley Express "same plane" sights in mine.

I also need you to e-mail me with your info and order quantity to confirm your order.  See my first post for all the details.  
10/13/2004 2:16:30 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
Just curious, where would I be able to get A1 rear sight parts?  



BUSHMASTER

$11.95 + shipping
10/13/2004 2:19:55 PM EDT
[#45]
BB, I need you to e-mail me with your info as well (check the first post for details).
10/13/2004 2:26:49 PM EDT
[#46]
I did. Check your mail.
10/13/2004 2:37:59 PM EDT
[#47]
Thanks for the quick info guys.  Does anyone have a link to a "how-to" assemble A1 sights?
10/13/2004 2:41:02 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
I did. Check your mail.



I checked my e-mail, and all my old e-mails I already got.  I haven't got yours yet.  Please resend it.  I want to make sure I don't have any e-mail problems.
10/13/2004 2:47:48 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Thanks for the quick info guys.  Does anyone have a link to a "how-to" assemble A1 sights?



It's not hard to do, but I can't seem to find any "How To" instructions on the web.

When you get a chance I need you to e-mail me to confirm your order.  See the first post of the thread for more info.
10/13/2004 2:55:32 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I did. Check your mail.



I checked my e-mail, and all my old e-mails I already got.  I haven't got yours yet.  Please resend it.  I want to make sure I don't have any e-mail problems.



I resent it, you didn't get that either?

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