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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:08:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve said before, you post great info, but seriously if you aren’t willing to reach out to the company to get it fixed then u just want to complain and don’t really want a resolution. Here's another new flash for you; you don't decide what my resolution is. .... |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:12:18 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!! You sure wanted to look at me when you were sucking-up trying to me get to test barrels that you wanted to see tested . . . Quoted: Hey Molon. I'm wondering if you might be able to do accuracy tests of the Ballistic Advantage Hanson Profile barrel with the pinned gas block. Preferably 16" or 14.5". Also, an accuracy test of the Faxon gunner profile barrel would be awesome. Thanks for your hard work. .... |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:13:28 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you gonna be an adult and call them? Because it seems you'd rather pout and complain than give them a chance to make it right. Geissele has had plenty of opportunity to "make it right." ... |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:15:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sure wanted to look at me when you were sucking-up trying to me get to test barrels that you wanted to see tested . . . .... And then I found out the kind of petty individual you actually are. If asking you politely is "sucking up" to you, then I'd hate to hear what you actually think about the members who incessantly stroke your ego in this thread. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:23:45 AM EDT
[#6]
If it was a full #SUPERDUTY upper you could oil the handguard while you have it off to do the necessary oiling of the #SUPERDURABLEBLACKOXIDE barrel.
I recall reading Geissele or a representative trying to upsell the #SUPERDURABLEBLACKOXIDE finish because it had a deep black color. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:32:23 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don’t you email them and see what they say? Maybe message @GACS ? They’ve been @ several times now. Maybe their rep on here was at SHOT but who knows. That ended a few days ago though. Edit: won’t be surprised if people get this locked before G responds either. 
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:45:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't attack unless I'm being attacked first, it's a flaw of mine that has more to do with being frustrated at someone trying to undermine using fallacy based arguments in a technical discussion with the intent to undermine using vitriol. And you have attacked me without provocation. Twice. Give up yourself first, your excuse holds no water and you don't get to make the terms of the complaints people have. Why are you upset with people making or rather exposing something for all potential consumers? As I've said before way more than once, if it wasn't for this thread, I would never have known that this was an actual issue as mine is the same as the OP's. I'm certainly not going to return something that's already been assembled. Function>form but that still doesn't mean that I should not be raising my hand and saying that it's a rather poor thing to pay a premium for, either. You don't get to make the terms for the complainants. We do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did you miss your 'personal attack' directed at me? Give it up. If you don't like a product send it back. I don't attack unless I'm being attacked first, it's a flaw of mine that has more to do with being frustrated at someone trying to undermine using fallacy based arguments in a technical discussion with the intent to undermine using vitriol. And you have attacked me without provocation. Twice. Give up yourself first, your excuse holds no water and you don't get to make the terms of the complaints people have. Why are you upset with people making or rather exposing something for all potential consumers? As I've said before way more than once, if it wasn't for this thread, I would never have known that this was an actual issue as mine is the same as the OP's. I'm certainly not going to return something that's already been assembled. Function>form but that still doesn't mean that I should not be raising my hand and saying that it's a rather poor thing to pay a premium for, either. You don't get to make the terms for the complainants. We do. I don't get to make the terms, we do? Lol who is we? You're such a goober. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:54:59 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Geissele has had plenty of opportunity to "make it right." ... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are you gonna be an adult and call them? Because it seems you'd rather pout and complain than give them a chance to make it right. Geissele has had plenty of opportunity to "make it right." ... Lmfao. Here's an idea mentioned numerous times: Contact G customer service instead of getting off to info you've posted 20 times. We get it, cool dude, nice work now actually take initiative to resolve the problem. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:01:13 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit: won’t be surprised if people get this locked There's always a few fanboys here that try their hardest to get a thread locked if they don't like the content of the thread or they don't like the person that started the thread. .... |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:11:57 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ve been @ several times now. Maybe their rep on here was at SHOT but who knows. That ended a few days ago though. Edit: won’t be surprised if people get this locked before G responds either. @ is unreliable at best. I guess picking up a phone is hard. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:13:18 AM EDT
[#12]
Ordered a fed green G rail a few years back which was an obvious blem. I emailed CS regarding it and never received a response back. I ended up just putting the damn thing on a rifle, but I was disappointed in how they treated me as a customer.
Used to be a G fan, no more. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:15:03 AM EDT
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I’ve dealt with Geiessele customer service twice, first time I so pissed I hung up after being on hold for 38 minutes if I remember, called ban about a hour later and was put on hold again, then got passed around with no resolution, emailed them and nothing. I love their rails, was going to order up another one this week and a barrel, now I don’t know? I refuse to use their CS and would rather call the IRS or Verizon. Thank god Daniel Defense has the RIS III, and their barrels kick ass.
ETA, their attitude in the statement saying we like it, we don’t care what you like, and if you don’t like what you get, we’ll fuck off, and we don’t care. That last paragraph from the engineer said it all and said what we need know. Some here will still suck G’s balls. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:16:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately posted policy is “theory”. What they do in practice is a different matter. That said, I quit buying Geissele but it sounds like they’re better now than when I was having issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: NON-FIREARM RETURNS & REPLACEMENTS POLICY If you are dissatisfied with your order for any reason, you can return your item for a refund or credit towards your next purchase within one year of purchase. After one year, these items are ineligible for a return or exchange All return or exchange requests must be set up with our Customer Service team via email at [email protected] or through our customer support portal on our web store. If the request has not been set up through our Customer Service team prior to sending it in, your package will be refused and returned to sender. They're far from the only game in town... Unfortunately posted policy is “theory”. What they do in practice is a different matter. That said, I quit buying Geissele but it sounds like they’re better now than when I was having issues. This. Big nothing burger if they don't even respond to an email. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:24:58 AM EDT
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A few years ago, I was in DC for some bullshit conference. Went to a fancy packed restaurant for dinner, sat at the bar myself. This place was known for their crab cakes, affiliated with old ebbitts grill I think. Place was busy, had two beers and the crab cake dinner.
The food was average, kind of tough and nothing remarkable. Bartender confidently asked me how they were after I ate 80% of the plate. Me: “Eh, they were average at best…. Not that great.” Bartender: “oh I could have had them remade for you if you told me.” Me: “nah, I’m in a hurry and I don’t send food back usually” Bartender: “well, we’ll take them off the bill for you.” Me: “no, that’s ok. I did eat them, so I want to pay for them.” Bartender: “Sir, you told made a point to tell me you weren’t happy with them.” Me: “you asked, I answered. I ate the food, I’d like to pay” Bartender at this point cannot understand what’s going on. Dude next to me intervened and had to spell it out for the Bartender, and we all went on our way. Sometimes it’s not always as simple as just send it back for a replacement, or refund or whatever else will drag out the disappointment. Sometimes, a man just wants to call shit like he sees it and call out bull shit quality and leave it at that. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:37:51 AM EDT
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I'm in the category of was a G fan boy before the MK16 stuff. I messaged them on IG asking what happened to the MK16 thread on arfcom and wanted to know what their statement to the public officially was and they blocked me without replying. After spending thousands on G products and recommending G to my friends and selling thousands more for them this was a stiff slap to the face.
I've held on to that for a while, and while owning many G rails. A few months ago I reinstalled an old mk8 I definitely got used on the EE, after disassembling an upper to bed the barrel and during reassembly the barrel nut fasteners displaced rail material during torque to the correct specified torque value. After contacting Geissele, CS promptly responded saying that unfortunately while my mk8 was an older version and discontinued they were unable to replace with a mk8 because they were out of stock and offered to replace with a brand new MK4 of MK16 instead. Being that those rails are $100 more than the rail they were replacing I was pretty happy with them. They even replaced the barrel nut. Now, don't get me wrong, I have still fallen completely out of love with everything geissele other than their NM and SSAX gov triggers and in addition to every G rail I owned and many of my G triggers, I sold the new MK16 to replace with a beat up DD RIS but that was still a pretty surprising outcome. Just my experience to support why I think their CS is good, must've been a good day at G though if others have had complete opposite experiences. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:44:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Try to keep up: their customer service is dog shit and I'll resolve things however ever I decide I want to. In the mean time I'll continue to inform people about the shoddy product Geissele is putting out these days. ... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lmfao. Here's an idea mentioned numerous times: Contact G customer service instead of getting off to info you've posted 20 times. We get it, cool dude, nice work now actually take initiative to resolve the problem. Try to keep up: their customer service is dog shit and I'll resolve things however ever I decide I want to. In the mean time I'll continue to inform people about the shoddy product Geissele is putting out these days. ... You're constantly saying the same tired line, try to keep up. Ok geezer, you do you. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:53:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And then I found out the kind of petty individual you actually are. If asking you politely is "sucking up" to you, then I'd hate to hear what you actually think about the members who incessantly stroke your ego in this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: And then I found out the kind of petty individual you actually are. If asking you politely is "sucking up" to you, then I'd hate to hear what you actually think about the members who incessantly stroke your ego in this thread. Your contributions to this website are truly . . . without any value. In this thread alone we have . . . Quoted: If you've been paying attention, this is typical Molon behavior. Quoted: Typical Molon thread of an old man yelling at clouds. Quoted: And then I found out the kind of petty individual you actually are. If asking you politely is "sucking up" to you, then I'd hate to hear what you actually think about the members who incessantly stroke your ego in this thread. Quoted: LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!! .... |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:54:22 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @ is unreliable at best. I guess picking up a phone is hard. It seems to work just fine when you @ PSA  To OP's point: I couldn't begin to guess how many black anodized parts I've bought over the years. Many of them advertised as blems, which for the life of me, I can't find the blems on half of the time. And I've never seen anything that bad before. When you pay top dollar, you're paying for good quality control, and that obviously isn't the case here, or they just don't care. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:03:59 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're constantly saying the same tired line, try to keep up. Ok geezer, you do you. And you be you ( geezer ?! ) .... I am getting tired of all the hate for people that others have. If those people don't have anything good to say, then just walk away....certainly comes to mind . Is there a reason these kind of comments are any better then what you all are accusing Molon of doing ? Arguing with someone else's choices seems to be a "I gotta add my 2 cents" ...when you could respectfully just disagree. It isn't hard to do. Quit trying to change Molon's mind on the subject. Maybe ask WHY instead of being "you" What ever happened to "Your choice, not mine " |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:05:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems to work just fine when you @ PSA To OP's point: I couldn't begin to guess how many black anodized parts I've bought over the years. Many of them advertised as blems, which for the life of me, I can't find the blems on half of the time. And I've never seen anything that bad before. When you pay top dollar, you're paying for good quality control, and that obviously isn't the case here, or they just don't care. Joshua is not the norm... he is a VERY attentive. Just sayin' 
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:34:00 AM EDT
[#22]
Sheeshhh. Prime example how to turn a solid case into a clown show. Someone really needed attention with 6 threads from same author on “discussions page1”
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:56:37 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And you be you ( geezer ?! ) .... I am getting tired of all the hate for people that others have. If those people don't have anything good to say, then just walk away....certainly comes to mind . Is there a reason these kind of comments are any better then what you all are accusing Molon of doing ? Arguing with someone else's choices seems to be a "I gotta add my 2 cents" ...when you could respectfully just disagree. It isn't hard to do. Quit trying to change Molon's mind on the subject. Maybe ask WHY instead of being "you" What ever happened to "Your choice, not mine " Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're constantly saying the same tired line, try to keep up. Ok geezer, you do you. And you be you ( geezer ?! ) .... I am getting tired of all the hate for people that others have. If those people don't have anything good to say, then just walk away....certainly comes to mind . Is there a reason these kind of comments are any better then what you all are accusing Molon of doing ? Arguing with someone else's choices seems to be a "I gotta add my 2 cents" ...when you could respectfully just disagree. It isn't hard to do. Quit trying to change Molon's mind on the subject. Maybe ask WHY instead of being "you" What ever happened to "Your choice, not mine " He's complaining about a product to an internet chat board, instead of going to source because he says they have shitty customer service, even though he actually hasn't even contacted them regarding the exact thing he's bitching about. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:19:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sheeshhh. Prime example how to turn a solid case into a clown show. Someone really needed attention with 6 threads from same author on “discussions page1” Youd think if his contributions weren't relevant theyd disappear into the archives like everyone elses posts. Wonder what's different. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:42:52 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Youd think if his contributions weren't relevant theyd disappear into the archives like everyone elses posts. Wonder what's different. They also appear to be well composed and have plenty of member input. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:53:19 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So get it replaced or spray paint, cerakote it or STFU. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402771/184C2A43-D3DF-4BD2-828C-AC3C701930C0_jpe-2254715.JPG I don’t need to post propaganda for Hodge, they sell themselves Because if you know, you know, right? He's got you to do that for him, the snake oil salesman is ingenious really. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:55:47 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ve been @ several times now. Maybe their rep on here was at SHOT but who knows. That ended a few days ago though. Edit: won’t be surprised if people get this locked before G responds either. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 5:00:54 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get to make the terms, we do? Lol who is we? You're such a goober. 1+1 does not equal 5 by the way, and that's the third time you've personally attacked rather than to accept that you were in the wrong. Have fun being ignored from here on out. And this WE is for those of us who own this chalky premium paid turd. Enjoy your gooberness self buddy, you've earned it and then some. Edit: And now you're name calling another, a fight you picked and agitated even more. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 5:04:23 AM EDT
[#29]
I normally prefer when mods stay out of discussions and and leave threads alone, but I'm actually surprised by the amount of insults allowed in a tech thread.... is it because those insults are defending certain things?
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Posted: 1/26/2022 5:11:37 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1+1 does not equal 5 by the way, and that's the third time you've personally attacked rather than to accept that you were in the wrong. Have fun being ignored from here on out. And this WE is for those of us who own this chalky premium paid turd. Enjoy your gooberness self buddy, you've earned it and then some. Edit: And now you're name calling another, a fight you picked and agitated even more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't get to make the terms, we do? Lol who is we? You're such a goober. 1+1 does not equal 5 by the way, and that's the third time you've personally attacked rather than to accept that you were in the wrong. Have fun being ignored from here on out. And this WE is for those of us who own this chalky premium paid turd. Enjoy your gooberness self buddy, you've earned it and then some. Edit: And now you're name calling another, a fight you picked and agitated even more. Im guessing you also don't actually shoot your guns? Also, I own multiple G rails. One had the chalky texture. But guess what? I don't give a shit, I shoot my guns, they get scratched, dropped etc. Guess what else? It's no longer a chalky 'premium' rail. and yes, feel free to place me on ignore. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 7:21:28 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Im guessing you also don't actually shoot your guns? Also, I own multiple G rails. One had the chalky texture. But guess what? I don't give a shit, I shoot my guns, they get scratched, dropped etc. Guess what else? It's no longer a chalky 'premium' rail. and yes, feel free to place me on ignore. I bought a new Rolex that was scratched, no big deal, I'm going to scratch it eventually because I actually wear it. 
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Posted: 1/26/2022 7:32:08 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Geissele is saying that is how other manufacturers do their cheap finishes and claiming Geissele doesn't finish their components like that. Their site could be clearer or I could read more carefully, but regardless you’re right and it illustrates your point perfectly. I’ve edited my previous post. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 7:39:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a new Rolex that was scratched, no big deal, I'm going to scratch it eventually because I actually wear it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Im guessing you also don't actually shoot your guns? Also, I own multiple G rails. One had the chalky texture. But guess what? I don't give a shit, I shoot my guns, they get scratched, dropped etc. Guess what else? It's no longer a chalky 'premium' rail. and yes, feel free to place me on ignore. I bought a new Rolex that was scratched, no big deal, I'm going to scratch it eventually because I actually wear it. He's obviously talking about me, he's a narcissist that needs the last words to make him think that he's wOn, who just projected that he doesn't shoot more than those he freely personally attacks with false assumptions (His 3rd personal attack on me with his 4th in total with just one at Molon). I'm pretty sure that I've stated multiple times in this thread that function>form, which should be an indicator to those with above room temperature IQ's that someone indeed shoots his guns. He can't figure that out just as much he can't understand that if people who pay for premium prices also expect premium finishes among other things. He can settle on his "collection" all he wants in whatever condition they are, they're his property that he paid for. However he's not free to expect us to do the same and making excuses for us to cave in and do what he's demanding of us. And I scratched to shit my T-2, dinged my Colt 11.5 FBI, and both dinged and scratched my Warden at Gunsite. Totally worth it and had absolutely zero F's to give as they're tools and now nO lOnGeR pReMiUm; If they came with a messed up finish, I'd equally bitch about that too because when I pay for premium things, I expect to receive premium products which is absolutely no fault of mine nor anyone else's to expect. He can pound sand all day long, his opinions don't trump mine nor Molon's, or anyone else for that concern either. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:07:05 AM EDT
[#34]
It’s clear this isn’t a tech thread…it was from inception an axe to grind and a platform to bitch. Understandable, you’re pissed. But constantly posting the same pics/airing the same grievance over and over all while reminding us of your contributions is ridiculous. Especially because you haven’t even bothered to reach out to Geissele to see if they’ll fix the issue you keep bitching about. It’s almost as if you don’t want it resolved so you can continue complaining/bashing them
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:18:43 AM EDT
[#35]
It's no surprise that so many laugh when Arfcom is brought up in conversation.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:31:07 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s clear this isn’t a tech thread…it was from inception an axe to grind and a platform to bitch. Understandable, you’re pissed. But constantly posting the same pics/airing the same grievance over and over all while reminding us of your contributions is ridiculous. Especially because you haven’t even bothered to reach out to Geissele to see if they’ll fix the issue you keep bitching about. It’s almost as if you don’t want it resolved so you can continue complaining/bashing them Perhaps you should sit this one out and not let previous investments taking control of these emotions of yours, and let the OP be himself instead of caving in to your rinse and repeated demands to talk to Geissele. Hint, he doesn't have to do any of that, and in fact he's responded positively to one member about about how to fix the issue with a fine scrubbing pad. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:46:59 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @ is unreliable at best. I guess picking up a phone is hard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They’ve been @ several times now. Maybe their rep on here was at SHOT but who knows. That ended a few days ago though. Edit: won’t be surprised if people get this locked before G responds either. @ is unreliable at best. I guess picking up a phone is hard. The issue here is that it’s obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that G’s quality of goods have fallen and don’t match their price point. From what I’ve seen this isn’t an isolated incident. It was interesting a fella said in another thread that his $80 expo rail had better fit and finish than his mk4 G rail.. guess it’s not hard to do. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:50:58 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The issue here is that it’s obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that G’s quality of goods have fallen and don’t match their price point. From what I’ve seen this isn’t an isolated incident. It was interesting a fella said in another thread that his $80 expo rail had better fit and finish than his mk4 G rail.. guess it’s not hard to do. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:51:58 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I normally prefer when mods stay out of discussions and and leave threads alone, but I'm actually surprised by the amount of insults allowed in a tech thread.... is it because those insults are defending certain things? I thought the same. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 9:02:19 AM EDT
[#40]
rant thread. not quite epic, though.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 9:14:21 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I normally prefer when mods stay out of discussions and and leave threads alone, but I'm actually surprised by the amount of insults allowed in a tech thread.... is it because those insults are defending certain things? Yeah, tech is usually tight and thanks for offering the m855a1. I can't wait for the write up. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 9:15:07 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sure wanted to look at me when you were sucking-up trying to me get to test barrels that you wanted to see tested . . . Never once actually. Your barrel posts were informative at best. But I have never purchased based upon anything you ever said. Ever. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 9:33:49 AM EDT
[#45]
You know what..... I'm getting tired of reading this my "dick is bigger than yours" shit, I'm surprised it hasn't been locked,
but I will say this..... maybe a call to Geissele first would have been a good idea, they tout their product as being the very best and yet they let something like this slip out of the door, I doubt a call would have produced any real results, the fact that they have not jumped in on this (because you know they're reading) says to me that they're ok with this type of thing and aren't worried about it, I've got over a half dozen Geissele rails and each one not as good as the last, |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 9:45:23 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 20 years of prestige rightfully earned by contributing valuable information to a community can be wiped out in a week if you aren't careful. If you haven't bothered to reach out to Geissele, either through their regular channels or on this site, it really does seem like you're just here to complain and whine and smear a company. I've said numerous times that if it hadn't been for his awareness complaint, that this was absolutely normal and to be expected. And please show me in the rulebook that never existed, where one has to to automatically reach out first before making a thread to raise the awareness. I will wait. Your profile shows Geissele as points of interest for you as well as a picture thread contribution showing an emotional investment. And another of interest particularly where you tried to shame people for not being happy with Geissele's black oxide barrel finish, much as you're attempting to shame a person in here of as well. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 10:18:32 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And please show me in the rulebook that never existed, where one has to to automatically reach out first before making a thread to raise the awareness. I will wait. Your profile shows Geissele as points of interest for you as well as a picture thread contribution showing an emotional investment. And another of interest particularly where you tried to shame people for not being happy with Geissele's black oxide barrel finish, much as you're attempting to shame a person in here of as well. Um, it's called a warranty? I just got a Trijicon TA50 ACOG for my M70 rifle back in November. First trip to the range, it wouldn't zero as I couldn't get any windage adjustment to move right at all. Not one bit. Even tried the "banging it after adjustment" suggestion. So does that mean Trijicon is junk? Everyone should sell their Trijicon products? No, you send that crap in and get it fixed. If the company doesn't make it right THEN you post your issue and their lack of customer service. You all are conformists with groupthink logic here. I see it all the time and it's really freaking weird. Plenty of companies have had issues. BCM had issues with their BCGs for a little bit. Daniel Defense had defective triggers and at one point endorsed gun control. Colt was so bad that the US military dumped them for a bit. Midwest Industries had a really bad batch of screws go out with their BUIS. FN uses 4140 steel in their "Military Collector" series rifle barrels and not 4150. Go on down the line. It's steel, it's mass production and they are tools. You all have some seriously deep issues. And who cares what someone's profile shows? Dude, don't freaking stalk someone. That's psycho criminal behavior. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 10:18:47 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perspective is everything, you see what you want to see whether it's the truth or not. I've said numerous times that if it hadn't been for his awareness complaint, that this was absolutely normal and to be expected. And please show me in the rulebook that never existed, where one has to to automatically reach out first before making a thread to raise the awareness. I will wait. Your profile shows Geissele as points of interest for you as well as a picture thread contribution showing an emotional investment. And another of interest particularly where you tried to shame people for not being happy with Geissele's black oxide barrel finish, much as you're attempting to shame a person in here of as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 20 years of prestige rightfully earned by contributing valuable information to a community can be wiped out in a week if you aren't careful. If you haven't bothered to reach out to Geissele, either through their regular channels or on this site, it really does seem like you're just here to complain and whine and smear a company. I've said numerous times that if it hadn't been for his awareness complaint, that this was absolutely normal and to be expected. And please show me in the rulebook that never existed, where one has to to automatically reach out first before making a thread to raise the awareness. I will wait. Your profile shows Geissele as points of interest for you as well as a picture thread contribution showing an emotional investment. And another of interest particularly where you tried to shame people for not being happy with Geissele's black oxide barrel finish, much as you're attempting to shame a person in here of as well. No shaming in here. If I had received the same rail as the OP, I would absolutely have complained about it to Geissele CS, then to GACS, and then made a similar thread if it wasn't resolved. What I absolutely would not have done is go straight to public shaming, and when people called me out on it, tried to bolster my opinion using my contributions to the website as some kind of weird appeal to authority. That's just sad. Almost as sad as digging through a user's posts to try and "no u" them. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 10:19:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I normally prefer when mods stay out of discussions and and leave threads alone, but I'm actually surprised by the amount of insults allowed in a tech thread.... is it because those insults are defending certain things? Completely agree. I am also surprised by the level of insults. |
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