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Posted: 10/9/2011 3:04:46 PM EDT
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Our they out for sale now? Nah that's just a preview. Probably next year. |
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Our they out for sale now? Nah that's just a preview. Probably next year. Thanks and where you get the pictures from? I checked the LWRC site and did not see anything about this rifle. |
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Our they out for sale now? Nah that's just a preview. Probably next year. Thanks and where you get the pictures from? I checked the LWRC site and did not see anything about this rifle. Look harder. LWRC forum GD. |
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The lower receiver is needlessly complicated with all the ambidextrous gizmos. Gizmos seldom add reliability. KISS works.
I think the photos are right out of the LWRC forum. –– Chuck |
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Yeah, this is a sweet one. It's possible we'll see innovation from this rifle on the currently existing lineup before we actually get to order THIS package. Either way, I'm looking forward to hearing more about it.
Chuck, the IC specs called for a fully ambi firearm, thus the ambi lower receiver and charging handle. They didn't design this for the civilian market, but Lord knows there are plenty of ambi lovers. I don't have to have it, but that upper receiver is VERY interesting. |
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The ambi stuff is interesting. Someone have specs on this? It looks like it may address some of the complaints I have had. Hopefully this rifle is not as front heavy or as heavy overall for that matter. Depending on the specs I would buy this over a few other rifles I have my eye on.
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The ambi stuff is interesting. Someone have specs on this? It looks like it may address some of the complaints I have had. Hopefully this rifle is not as front heavy or as heavy overall for that matter. Depending on the specs I would buy this over a few other rifles I have my eye on. You might want to look into the existing M6A2 SPR model! :) |
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They didn't design this for the civilian market At this point, I'm convinced they wouldn't show stuff in their public forum to their civilian customers if they didn't intend to sell them to the civilian market. Like the 300 AAC BLK upper. Otherwise that'd be a super cock tease. NG. |
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They didn't design this for the civilian market At this point, I'm convinced they wouldn't show stuff in their public forum to their civilian customers if they didn't intend to sell them to the civilian market. Like the 300 AAC BLK upper. Otherwise that'd be a super cock tease. NG. I believe you are right, and didn't mean to imply otherwise. What I meant was that it was designed specifically to comply with the IC specs, which called for all ambi controls. I'm confident they will bring something similar to civilian market, but this particular unit wasn't designed with the civilian market in mind....although if it had been, it probably would still have been ambi. Lotta folks like that feature. |
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Ambidextrous selector is fine. The others just complicate operation. Of course the folks who like to use fine motor skills in moments of crisis love the BAD device and will like the integrated version of it here. Magazine catch is protected on the normal side but not on the other.
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Ambidextrous selector is fine. The others just complicate operation. Of course the folks who like to use fine motor skills in moments of crisis love the BAD device and will like the integrated version of it here. Magazine catch is protected on the normal side but not on the other. –– Chuck I think it is a push-out and not a push-in on the left side so that may not matter. |
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This rifle was built to contract specs. We will see bits and pieces of this trickle into their lineup and eventually this exact system. It looks good and if it has the same boring reliability and the same exceptional accuracy, it will be a winner. I am still waiting for the billet 6.8 PSD they showed at shot but will probably put the .300blk upper on my current PSD instead.
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Sexy. What was this rifle built for? IC?
Whats the difference between this and the SPR? Also, wheres the thread on the LWRC forum? Couldn't find it. |
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I pray that they offer this with an 18" barrel option. If they do, it will be my next rifle purchase. I would masturbate with it as is....... |
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Sexy. What was this rifle built for? IC? Whats the difference between this and the SPR? Also, wheres the thread on the LWRC forum? Couldn't find it. Hit 'veiw new posts' on the right side of the screen and it will be labeled Sneeky Peeky. The individual Carbine, from what I understand, is another contract that DOD has open for companies to submit there versions of a rifle that contains specific requirements that they are looking for. Kind of like the IAR program. |
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Our they out for sale now? Nah that's just a preview. Probably next year. Thanks and where you get the pictures from? I checked the LWRC site and did not see anything about this rifle. Look harder. LWRC forum GD. Found it, thanks |
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What's that piece of wire coming out of the gas block? 7th pic down.
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Sexy. What was this rifle built for? IC? Whats the difference between this and the SPR? Also, wheres the thread on the LWRC forum? Couldn't find it. Hit 'veiw new posts' on the right side of the screen and it will be labeled Sneeky Peeky. The individual Carbine, from what I understand, is another contract that DOD has open for companies to submit there versions of a rifle that contains specific requirements that they are looking for. Kind of like the IAR program. Makes sense. They can submit this for the individual carbine AND the M4 upgrade. |
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What's that piece of wire coming out of the gas block? 7th pic down. It is a spring that holds the gas adjust in place. It is a similar set up as the A3 and in no way a weak point in the system. Quoted:
That lower.... I must have it! This is the first true ambidextrous lower that I've seen. I'm going to be very pissed if they don't sell just the lower, and since they don't have a history of selling receivers, I'm probably not going to be a happy camper. They are selling stripped lowers right now at a discount. Call their CS at 410-901-1348. I am sure you will be able to buy one of these lowers shortly after the whole system is released. Oh and your avatar, my new favorite website. |
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They didn't design this for the civilian market At this point, I'm convinced they wouldn't show stuff in their public forum to their civilian customers if they didn't intend to sell them to the civilian market. Like the 300 AAC BLK upper. Otherwise that'd be a super cock tease. NG. Wait, they previewed a 300new Blk upper? Info? I remember when the caliber debuted they said they had no interest in it. |
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They didn't design this for the civilian market At this point, I'm convinced they wouldn't show stuff in their public forum to their civilian customers if they didn't intend to sell them to the civilian market. Like the 300 AAC BLK upper. Otherwise that'd be a super cock tease. NG. Wait, they previewed a 300new Blk upper? Info? I remember when the caliber debuted they said they had no interest in it. There's a thread in this very forum in regards. In the LWRC GD forum, the thread is called "So you wanted 300 BLK?" |
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Ambidextrous selector is fine. The others just complicate operation. Of course the folks who like to use fine motor skills in moments of crisis love the BAD device and will like the integrated version of it here. Magazine catch is protected on the normal side but not on the other. –– Chuck And yet they still manage to pull triggers, push magazine releases, push bolt releases, etc. Wonders never cease. |
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im not sure what to think about the lower, seems like a little overkill
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http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2834/lwrcic2.jpg I pray that they offer this with an 18" barrel option. If they do, it will be my next rifle purchase. That lower.... I must have it! This is the first true ambidextrous lower that I've seen. I'm going to be very pissed if they don't sell just the lower, and since they don't have a history of selling receivers, I'm probably not going to be a happy camper. You've never seen a Knights SR15 E3 lower have you? Daniel |
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http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2834/lwrcic2.jpg I pray that they offer this with an 18" barrel option. If they do, it will be my next rifle purchase. That lower.... I must have it! This is the first true ambidextrous lower that I've seen. I'm going to be very pissed if they don't sell just the lower, and since they don't have a history of selling receivers, I'm probably not going to be a happy camper. You've never seen a Knights SR15 E3 lower have you? Daniel The SR 15 E3 lower isn't a fully functional ambi lower. The right side paddle for the bolt only acts as a bolt release... With the LWRC design the paddle on the right is fully functional as a bolt catch. |
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Quoted: The lower receiver is needlessly complicated with all the ambidextrous gizmos. Gizmos seldom add reliability. KISS works. I think the photos are right out of the LWRC forum. –– Chuck It's set up very much similar to a REPR lower, which I find fantastically handy, particularly the bolt catch/release. With the right trigger, and possibly a change of the safety lever to the BAD ASS 45* lever, this is my ideal rifle right here. |
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Is the indexing off on that PWS brake? Looks like an AAC Blackout flash suppressor to me. |
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Yeah, that's an AAC M4-2000 Blackout mount. No indexing required.
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Update: LWRC VP says M6IC to be released "hopefully right after SHOT show."
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Even though I'm obviously not a huge fan of op-rod systems, I do have to say that the craftsmanship of the LWRC weapons that I've handled is top-notch. I have been wanting an AMBI, fully-functional bolt catch so you can lock with your trigger finger, as you can do if you run the AR left-handed. This overall system looks very well thought-out. Of course it isn't for purists, but I think we can all recognize and appreciate quality, US-made products.
I inspected an LWRC 16" carbine recently, and it appeared that it was Cerakoted, and had a barrel that I would say with 95% surety was Nitro-carburized (Melonite). I've been Cerakoting and using Nitro-carb'd barrels on several of my latest projects, and I'm a big fan of them so-far...Cerakote for a while now, still evaluating the Nitro-carb'd pipes for durability over the long term, especially with regards to tortuous high-volume in SEMI only (since they're not AUTO rated). The Melonite process reduces elasticity in CMV steel from around 18% down to about 8-9%, which is why they aren't machinegun rated from my understanding...not enough ductility in the substrate metal. |
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Even though I'm obviously not a huge fan of op-rod systems, I do have to say that the craftsmanship of the LWRC weapons that I've handled is top-notch. I have been wanting an AMBI, fully-functional bolt catch so you can lock with your trigger finger, as you can do if you run the AR left-handed. This overall system looks very well thought-out. Of course it isn't for purists, but I think we can all recognize and appreciate quality, US-made products. I inspected an LWRC 16" carbine recently, and it appeared that it was Cerakoted, and had a barrel that I would say with 95% surety was Nitro-carburized (Melonite). I've been Cerakoting and using Nitro-carb'd barrels on several of my latest projects, and I'm a big fan of them so-far...Cerakote for a while now, still evaluating the Nitro-carb'd pipes for durability over the long term, especially with regards to tortuous high-volume in SEMI only (since they're not AUTO rated). The Melonite process reduces elasticity in CMV steel from around 18% down to about 8-9%, which is why they aren't machinegun rated from my understanding...not enough ductility in the substrate metal. This is straight off the LWRC forum, as posted by the company: "The standard M6 barrel features a ferritic salt bath nitro carburized interior and exterior finish. This finishing process is also applied to the barrel extension and gas port. This finishing process is a surface conversion process in place of industrial hard chrome and is therefore inherently free from nodules, flaking, pits, stripping, or anode burrs. The process results in chemical and structural composition changes that can be described as a case hardening to a depth of 0.005” of the alloy leading to increased surface hardness, lower coefficient of friction, enhanced surface lubricity, improved running wear performance, increased sliding wear resistance, enhanced corrosion resistance and heat resistance over industrial hard chrome. Since the process is a surface conversion and does not add material to the internal dimension of the bore, the barrels can be hammer forged on size over a very precise polished rifle mandrel. With hard chrome, the bore must be manufactured oversized or honed and electro-polished to make the interior dimension oversized making room for the chrome plating. This plating is inconsistent which is the reason sniper or target barrels are typically not chromed. Nitrocarburizing has proven superior as a surface finish to phosphating to oxidization when subjected to MIL-STD-810f salt fog/spray testing and is a scratch resistant flat black finish. In addition the barrel extension and gas port are also surface converted minimizing barrel extension wear, increasing corrosion resistance and limiting gas port erosion. Cross sectional analysis done by HP White Laboratories before and after nitro carburizing proved the surface conversion process does not negatively interfere with the heat treat or temper of the barrel extension. LWRCI contracted HP White to conduct these tests. The ferritic salt bath nitro carburizing process has been proven by independent testing to be superior to chromium plating both it terms of corrosion resistance and abrasion resistance, lubricity and wear. It has been long adopted by FAMAE of Chile for use in all government small arms, and also by the Polish Military. It has been adopted by Sig Arms for use in their carbines, Glock in their pistol bores and various other large military arms manufacturers with excellent results." |
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OMG yes, ambi heaven, and a new beautiful lower design. Great work! Will you be making an SPR model of this?
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Will you be making an SPR model of this? What do you mean? |
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Will you be making an SPR model of this? What do you mean? Maybe he means an 18 incher? I would imagine they will eventually offer most barrel lengths in this config. |
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Will you be making an SPR model of this? What do you mean? Maybe he means an 18 incher? I would imagine they will eventually offer most barrel lengths in this config. From your mouth to God's ears, my friend. |
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Will someone please help me decide if my TEOTWAWKI gun should be a piston?
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Will someone please help me decide if my TEOTWAWKI gun should be a piston? Thanks. Yes. Feel better? |
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Why don't they put their REPR side charger on there? I want an LWRC, but I refuse to buy one until they sell it with the side charger. Otherwise it's to close to my other ARs.
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Don't know what kind of ARs you have, but just because a Ford Escort and a Chevy Camaro SS both have 4 wheels and are referred to as "automobiles" doesn't mean the SS isn't more desirable than the Escort.
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Don't know what kind of ARs you have, but just because a Ford Escort and a Chevy Camaro SS both have 4 wheels and are referred to as "automobiles" doesn't mean the SS isn't more desirable than the Escort. Trust me, my ARs and M16 aren't escorts... I love the side charger on my FAL and XCR, can't wait for someone to sell an AR with a FAL style side charger. |
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to the side-charger on the REPR - soon as they start making that spiral fluted version they've shown, I'm in.
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