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12/18/2005 11:12:34 PM EDT
[#1]
YOU GUYS ARE PLENTY SAVVY. YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKETPLACE.

BELIEVE ME, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN MRP BEFORE THE SHOT SHOW, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ONE FOR A LONG TIME AFTER THE SHOW.

YES, GOOD NEWS IS COMING.

GLAD I'VE PERSONALLY GOT TWO OF THEM PLUS SEVERAL IN STOCK.

YOU FOLKS SHOULD KNOW BY NOW WHAT CALIBER M.S.T.N. LIKES BEST IN THE AR'.

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ
12/19/2005 9:44:14 AM EDT
[#2]

um, .223?
Until more ammo is available and becomes less expensive, I'll have to stick with .223.  Also I'd have to get tons of new mags for it.  $ isn't a problem, logistics can be (I'm in CA), unless I find a way to mod my AR15 mags for the new MRP caliber
12/19/2005 6:28:41 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
YOU GUYS ARE PLENTY SAVVY. YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKETPLACE.

BELIEVE ME, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN MRP BEFORE THE SHOT SHOW, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ONE FOR A LONG TIME AFTER THE SHOW.

YES, GOOD NEWS IS COMING.

GLAD I'VE PERSONALLY GOT TWO OF THEM PLUS SEVERAL IN STOCK.

YOU FOLKS SHOULD KNOW BY NOW WHAT CALIBER M.S.T.N. LIKES BEST IN THE AR'.

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ



Man, SHOT Show is a long time away...  Maybe someone can figure out one of those countdown clocks for us...

Spooky
12/19/2005 6:36:36 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
GLAD I'VE PERSONALLY GOT TWO OF THEM PLUS SEVERAL IN STOCK.
YOU FOLKS SHOULD KNOW BY NOW WHAT CALIBER M.S.T.N. LIKES BEST IN THE AR'.
WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ



Twins are a nice thing to have. I've had mine for awhile, just as Wes has.
12/20/2005 2:59:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Looks like can not hold out much longer and "NEED" to get a MRP upper - however - the question is Rifle or Carbine length?  Since all the small hole lowers currently in the house are NFA, can use use the 10.5 inch or 14.5 inch barrel (getting bad, had to borrow a friends AR lower to go out of state - but since "traded" and AUG for it, he did not mind ;-).

The 14.5 works nicely in the rifle upper, with similar setup as the extended KAC rail system.  Thus the question is two fold, any accuracy advantage of either system and does one trade the 10.5 inch for the option of a 18 inch upper?

Appreicate ideas, photos, etc.   And getting two MRP uppers is not an option, as have another tax stamp that is trying to follow me home.
12/20/2005 5:02:44 AM EDT
[#6]
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE QUESTION, BUT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER AS BEST I CAN:

WITH THE CQB MRP, YOU CAN USE ANY BARREL LENGTH, 10.5" TO 18". WITH THE RIFLE LENGTH MRP, YOU ARE LIMITED TO 14.5" TO 18".

UNSURE OF THE INTENT ON THE ACCURACY QUESTION ...

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ
12/20/2005 8:38:59 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE QUESTION, BUT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER AS BEST I CAN:

WITH THE CQB MRP, YOU CAN USE ANY BARREL LENGTH, 10.5" TO 18". WITH THE RIFLE LENGTH MRP, YOU ARE LIMITED TO 14.5" TO 18".

UNSURE OF THE INTENT ON THE ACCURACY QUESTION ...

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ



Since I'm sure you have nothing better to do and have all those MRPs and barrels sitting around, it would be interesting to see a side-by-side picture of all the various length barrels in a CQB and rifle length upper!  

Spooky
12/20/2005 8:39:16 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE QUESTION, BUT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER AS BEST I CAN:

WITH THE CQB MRP, YOU CAN USE ANY BARREL LENGTH, 10.5" TO 18". WITH THE RIFLE LENGTH MRP, YOU ARE LIMITED TO 14.5" TO 18".

UNSURE OF THE INTENT ON THE ACCURACY QUESTION ...

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ



Had not realized that with the CQB MRP that I could use the 18" barrel (I will have to check the thread for a photo of the CQB MRP with a 18 inch barrel and bipod ).

My question on accuracy was to check if  the rifle upper was more accurate, however, just realized with a free floating barrel, there is probably no difference in accuaracy.  Thus the advantage of the rifle upper is more rail space and getting the rail farther foward on the 18 inch barrel, for use with a bipod.

Thanks!
12/20/2005 9:23:14 AM EDT
[#9]
I don't use bipods but do have lots of crap piled on (front sight, sling attachment, flash light, IR laser/illuminator, a 2nd flash light ) so I went with the rifle length MRP.
Now only if LMT would lighten the barrels....
My MRP went through a weight loss program.  Troy BattleSights replaced by slightly lighter KAC front and 300M rear sights, all batteries removed from the storage space in the TD foregrip, Magpul pistol grip, and LMT SOPMOD stock, alas it's still heavy

12/20/2005 9:55:49 AM EDT
[#10]
Does anyone know when LMT will release the upgrades and the completed MRP with the gas piston system?  I heard one was in the works.
Anthony
12/20/2005 4:05:22 PM EDT
[#11]
hi i would like to ask MSTN dealer what length barrel and rail do you have on the mrp you had posted earlier.  I'm new to this forum and am still learning a lot about the M4.  I plan to buy a lower and buid it from there so currently i'm trying to learn as much as i can on complete uppers or uppers in general.  thanks
12/20/2005 8:58:48 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
hi i would like to ask MSTN dealer what length barrel and rail do you have on the mrp you had posted earlier.  I'm new to this forum and am still learning a lot about the M4.  I plan to buy a lower and buid it from there so currently i'm trying to learn as much as i can on complete uppers or uppers in general.  thanks



Watch out for the laws in your state (CA).  Most of the stuff in the MRP thread can get you in trouble with the law...

Spooky
12/20/2005 11:23:36 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
hi i would like to ask MSTN dealer what length barrel and rail do you have on the mrp you had posted earlier.  I'm new to this forum and am still learning a lot about the M4.  I plan to buy a lower and buid it from there so currently i'm trying to learn as much as i can on complete uppers or uppers in general.  thanks



WHICH PIC? I'VE POSTED PIX OF 10.5", 14.5", 16", AND 18".

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
12/21/2005 2:23:37 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:


WHICH PIC? I'VE POSTED PIX OF 1.5", 14.5", 16", AND 18".

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.



Wes which ones were 18" and any with the CQB upper?

12/21/2005 4:39:59 PM EDT
[#15]
HERE WE ARE, BACK IN 2003, WITH THE FIRST COMMERCAILLY RELEASED MRP, AND 18" VERSION IN RIFLE LENGTH FORMAT:



WE'VE NEVER TAKEN A PIC THAT I CAN FIND OF A CARBINE LENGTH MRP WITH AN 18" BARREL. WE'VE ONLY SOLD A FEW CONFIGURED LIKE THAT. THE RIFLE LENGTH SEEMS MORE APPROPRIATE, ESTHETICALLY, I SUPPOSE, WITH THE 18" TUBE.

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ
12/21/2005 5:01:01 PM EDT
[#16]
A pic from a thread I just started in the optics forum
12/21/2005 6:22:00 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
A pic from a thread I just started in the optics forum
home.earthlink.net/~whitman/2D740.JPG



There you go, whoring that awesome new toy around everywhere...
12/21/2005 6:55:06 PM EDT
[#18]
lol don't be hatin'
12/22/2005 11:59:26 PM EDT
[#19]
I don't get it- why is the MRP so cool, I know the barrel changes out easily but other than that? Wouldn't mind having one of course, just understand I guess.
12/23/2005 12:02:56 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I don't get it- why is the MRP so cool, I know the barrel changes out easily but other than that? Wouldn't mind having one of course, just understand I guess.



The continuous 1 piece upper receiver/rail gives the most in optics & laser flexibility.

12/23/2005 12:29:51 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
A pic from a thread I just started in the optics forum
home.earthlink.net/~whitman/2D740.JPG



Duffy,

Is that a KL6 lamp head on your M900? If so, how does it perform?
12/23/2005 1:03:54 AM EDT
[#22]
Nick it is indeed a KL6.  It doesn't have the throw of the 120 lumens incandescent bulb, so I'm still deciding whether to put the 120 lumens bulb back on
12/23/2005 9:08:00 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't get it- why is the MRP so cool, I know the barrel changes out easily but other than that? Wouldn't mind having one of course, just understand I guess.



The continuous 1 piece upper receiver/rail gives the most in optics & laser flexibility.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/53851371/original.jpg



LOL, a 9X Aimpoint
12/23/2005 9:42:24 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't get it- why is the MRP so cool, I know the barrel changes out easily but other than that? Wouldn't mind having one of course, just understand I guess.



The continuous 1 piece upper receiver/rail gives the most in optics & laser flexibility.

www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/53851371/original.jpg



LOL, a 9X Aimpoint



It's one of our friends Photoshop jobs of course, but I do hope to try to test the practicality of the Aimpoint M3, PVS-14, with the 3X magnifier/Flip Mount.  
12/23/2005 10:19:28 AM EDT
[#25]
Edwin, I think you might come to the same conclusion I did: I could, but wouldn't and in the end, didn't.  The beloved continuous rail of the MRP allows us the flexibility to do it, while combining so many optics on it may be a solution and certainly is multi-talented, it creates problems of its own: weight, complexity.  
So I just got the solution meant to address this specific want (to see targets way out there): a 4X NV scope
12/23/2005 10:47:28 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Edwin, I think you might come to the same conclusion I did: I could, but wouldn't and in the end, didn't.  The beloved continuous rail of the MRP allows us the flexibility to do it, while combining so many optics on it may be a solution and certainly is multi-talented, it creates problems of its own: weight, complexity.  
So I just got the solution meant to address this specific want (to see targets way out there): a 4X NV scope



I have to agree with Duffy on this one...We're fortunate though to have the luxury of saving our pennies to have a dedicated mission specific setups.  I actually go one step further and have DEDICATED mid-range and long range setups for BOTH day and night! My CQB package is the only one I remove and add optics. Now...If I can just save a few more for that new 6.8 LMT on the radar scope.....Until then, I have to suffer and look at all the other FINE setups out there and here!
12/23/2005 2:07:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Victor I was going to buy a thermal scope, but since I got 100K less from the sale of my condo, I had to step down to just a D740
12/23/2005 7:03:49 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Victor I was going to buy a thermal scope, but since I got 100K less from the sale of my condo, I had to step down to just a D740



LOL, geez now you've got ghetto gear!
12/25/2005 7:56:14 PM EDT
[#29]


This PVS-14 is awesome, practically blemish free ( a couple of tiny spots, could be dirt/dust), and Grant's IWAL laser is terrific!
12/25/2005 8:07:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Our rifles are twins
12/25/2005 9:07:32 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Our rifles are twins



All I can say is great minds think alike.
Now if I can just get a D-760!

Thanks Duffy, and Merry Christmas!

12/26/2005 12:14:22 AM EDT
[#32]
Seperated at birth
12/27/2005 2:20:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Couple of shots from today.



12/27/2005 9:53:41 PM EDT
[#34]
I've got to say that your guys MRPs are great looking rifles.  I enjoy looking at the pictures.  If only I had more money, and didn't live in CA....
12/27/2005 10:17:30 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I've got to say that your guys MRPs are great looking rifles.  I enjoy looking at the pictures.  If only I had more money, and didn't live in CA....



In a word .........   MOVE!

12/27/2005 10:56:07 PM EDT
[#36]
So what is the consensus here?  Are we going to finally see 6.8 at shot, or a piston system for our MRP's?  
12/27/2005 11:30:15 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
So what is the consensus here?  Are we going to finally see 6.8 at shot, or a piston system for our MRP's?  



I hear a 6.8 WILL be at the shot show. The slow-down WAS or IS still 6.8 ammo from Hornady to LMT.  They have to have a certain quantity on-hand for QA purposes.  Hope this helps.

Vic
12/28/2005 12:26:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Sweet!!!  I hope that's true - I can't wait for a 6.8!

Spooky
12/28/2005 7:54:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Latest addition - the pic pales in comparison to Edwin's, but I'll keep trying

Oh yeah, thanks Duffy!



12/28/2005 8:09:24 PM EDT
[#40]
Does the rail cover interfere with the activation switch?  mfingar dremeled out a void on his KAC cover for the switch, my dremel skills are horrible and wouldn't attempt it, so I folded it all the way up and use the remote pressure switch instead
12/28/2005 8:22:51 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Does the rail cover interfere with the activation switch?  mfingar dremeled out a void on his KAC cover for the switch, my dremel skills are horrible and wouldn't attempt it, so I folded it all the way up and use the remote pressure switch instead



It works with the cover in place.  It will not swing all the way to "constant on" with or without the cover, but momentary works just fine.
12/29/2005 2:43:58 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
So what is the consensus here?  Are we going to finally see 6.8 at shot, or a piston system for our MRP's?  



I hear a 6.8 WILL be at the shot show. The slow-down WAS or IS still 6.8 ammo from Hornady to LMT.  They have to have a certain quantity on-hand for QA purposes.  Hope this helps.

Vic



Excuses, excuses. The real reason for the lack of 6.8 ammo is that the round is dead.
12/29/2005 3:00:44 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
So what is the consensus here?  Are we going to finally see 6.8 at shot, or a piston system for our MRP's?  



I hear a 6.8 WILL be at the shot show. The slow-down WAS or IS still 6.8 ammo from Hornady to LMT.  They have to have a certain quantity on-hand for QA purposes.  Hope this helps.

Vic



Excuses, excuses. The real reason for the lack of 6.8 ammo is that the round is dead.



Thank God I reload then! I hope that is not the case...I know there is another thread going around for this particuiar topic... Thanks

Vic
12/29/2005 4:25:13 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
So what is the consensus here?  Are we going to finally see 6.8 at shot, or a piston system for our MRP's?  



I hear a 6.8 WILL be at the shot show. The slow-down WAS or IS still 6.8 ammo from Hornady to LMT.  They have to have a certain quantity on-hand for QA purposes.  Hope this helps.

Vic



Excuses, excuses. The real reason for the lack of 6.8 ammo is that the round is dead.



Sorry sir, You are wrong.

The truth is that the barrels have been made, but they have not been released due to the lack of available 6.8 ammo over the past year for testing the barrels. (LMT requires 200,000rds for testing) There are several companies now producing 6.8 ammo, and thus the barrels will be released soon after Shot '06.

Im sure the same bs was said about the .222 Remington Special (.223) when it was first introduced.
12/31/2005 3:10:15 PM EDT
[#45]




12/31/2005 4:50:09 PM EDT
[#46]
Now yours is about as heavy as mine
1/1/2006 8:55:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Hmmm....what will SOCOM do?

Buy more Mk262 or reconfigure thousands of ARs to fire a new chambering? The 6.8 is dead friends. People have been waxing its virtues for over two years and it's simply a non-starter.
1/1/2006 10:43:15 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
Hmmm....what will SOCOM do?

Buy more Mk262 or reconfigure thousands of ARs to fire a new chambering? The 6.8 is dead friends. People have been waxing its virtues for over two years and it's simply a non-starter.



Hmmmm...I really dont care what SOCOM does, as long as we keep killin' the bad guys. All I know is that I will soon have a 6.8 barrel for my MRP to go along with my 6.8 SPR and my stash of 6.8 ammo.
1/2/2006 1:32:59 PM EDT
[#49]
It is time to get on some dealer's list for 6.8 barrels and bolts!

Spooky
1/6/2006 8:44:41 AM EDT
[#50]
i need a new fix.. any new pics?!oh and does anyone who bought a MRP sort of have any regrets? just wonderin

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