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Link Posted: 2/11/2020 7:24:12 PM EST
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Good point! I didn’t even notice that. Looks like SOLGW it is!

Only reason I went with BA barrel is because I scored a brand new one for 140 with pinned gas block. With the SOLGW being mid length, I wish I went that route. I am going with an MI 12.65 rail and the brake that comes with the can
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I've got a few small pieces to order then I will be having my barrel pinned/welded. Debating on trigger but leaning towards a Larue.

13.7 SOLGW Barrel
BE Meyer 249F flash hider
13" MCMR BCM handguard
Good point! I didn’t even notice that. Looks like SOLGW it is!

Only reason I went with BA barrel is because I scored a brand new one for 140 with pinned gas block. With the SOLGW being mid length, I wish I went that route. I am going with an MI 12.65 rail and the brake that comes with the can
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 10:59:35 PM EST
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Anyone have any thoughts on paring a 13.7” barrel with an ADM 13.5 low light rail and NOX fh? Looks like the ADM is very similar to a URX setup. Wondering if the 13.5 will cover too much of the fh for future suppressor use.  Sorry for all the questions, want to make the best decisions seeing as a pin and weld setup is relatively permanent.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 11:47:54 PM EST
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Anyone have any thoughts on paring a 13.7” barrel with an ADM 13.5 low light rail and NOX fh? Looks like the ADM is very similar to a URX setup. Wondering if the 13.5 will cover too much of the fh for future suppressor use.  Sorry for all the questions, want to make the best decisions seeing as a pin and weld setup is relatively permanent.
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If that rail is an actual 13.5” length, 99% chance it won’t work with a suppressor.

Best you can do with a Keymount FH is about 1/2” difference between rail/barrel.  I had a couple 10”/10.5” setups and even they required a few washers behind the muzzle device to get the can to clear the rail.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 2:58:26 PM EST
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13.7 Noveske CHF next to a BCM 14.5, a Noveske 13.7 stainless, and my stackable washer dryer

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Link Posted: 2/12/2020 4:30:47 PM EST
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Please stop using Photobucket, the photos are unviewable.

@di11igaf
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 8:25:00 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2020 10:01:53 PM EST
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That is a sweet rig. Is the front sight supposed to stick out past the rail like that?
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It is Geissele’s new sights. I guess I could move it back.
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 8:01:50 PM EST
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It’s a start waiting on receivers to come back from Cerakote

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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 1:41:34 AM EST
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It’s a start waiting on receivers to come back from Cerakote

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Are you doing the receivers and whatnot matching Magpul OD?  I'm very tempted to do my 13.7" and 18" rifles with it when I can afford it.  The only reason my 13.7" is blue is the rail was custom coated blue so I snagged it off the EE for a song.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:06:53 AM EST
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Are you doing the receivers and whatnot matching Magpul OD?  I'm very tempted to do my 13.7" and 18" rifles with it when I can afford it.  The only reason my 13.7" is blue is the rail was custom coated blue so I snagged it off the EE for a song.
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They will be Magpul OD.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 3:54:52 PM EST
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Had my Noveske skinny barrel 14.5” cut down to 13.7” to match my BE Meyes flash suppressor. It was pinned and welded by ADCO. 13” original magnesium KMR rail on V7 Weapon Systems lithium aluminum receiver set.


Link Posted: 2/15/2020 7:27:15 PM EST
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What buffer weight everyone running and do you recommend an adjustable gas block?
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 7:38:24 PM EST
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What buffer weight everyone running and do you recommend an adjustable gas block?
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A5H2 and no adjustable gas.  It functions perfectly and isn’t very gassy even with a suppressor.

That said, there is no one size fits all.  Port location and port size (which is going to vary between manufacturers and model lines) will be the determining factor in what’s needed.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 7:47:35 PM EST
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H2 and no adjustable gas.  It functions perfectly and isn’t very gassy even with a suppressor.

That said, there is no one size fits all.  Port location and port size (which is going to vary between manufacturers and model lines) will be the determining factor in what’s needed.
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Good to know.  Having issues with an 11.5 right now so I was curious what everyone else has had luck with.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:13:46 PM EST
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Here's my wife's 13.7 with a PW BE Meyers 249F.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 3:24:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/19/2020 8:23:40 AM EST
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I am going to use 13.7 BA barrel carbine gas. Will using a Vltor A5 buffer system cause any problems? It will be 100% suppressed. I also have weights to change buffer weight as needed.
Link Posted: 2/19/2020 8:40:53 AM EST
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I am going to use 13.7 BA barrel carbine gas. Will using a Vltor A5 buffer system cause any problems? It will be 100% suppressed. I also have weights to change buffer weight as needed.
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Shouldn’t have any problems, using the A5 with my 13.7” MLGS and function for me has been 100%.
Link Posted: 2/19/2020 8:03:06 PM EST
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Shouldn’t have any problems, using the A5 with my 13.7” MLGS and function for me has been 100%.
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Good deal. I am putting it together this weekend.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 10:31:45 PM EST
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So For my 13.7 build I have decided use the following:
Rosco Purebred 13.7, mid, .750 gas
Sionics lo-pro gas block
SOLGW NOX Keymo FH
Toolcraft phosphate BCG
Melonite gas tube
Centurion CMR 13” MLOK
B5 SOPMOD stock
Milspec RE w/ Kaw Valley 4.3oz buffer
Sprinco blue
MBT2S trigger

Couple of questions:
Any glaring problems with this setup and my rail measures 13.468”, according to the guys at Dead Air, I need 0.180” +.1 to make sure all is clear for a loosened and fully seated suppressor.  Any issues with adding a .280 spacer, - a thousandth or 2 for spacers to time the FH, for the pin and weld? Sorry for the wall of text.
Link Posted: 2/22/2020 8:32:56 AM EST
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So For my 13.7 build I have decided use the following:
Rosco Purebred 13.7, mid, .750 gas
Sionics lo-pro gas block
SOLGW NOX Keymo FH
Toolcraft phosphate BCG
Melonite gas tube
Centurion CMR 13” MLOK
B5 SOPMOD stock
Milspec RE w/ Kaw Valley 4.3oz buffer
Sprinco blue
MBT2S trigger

Couple of questions:
Any glaring problems with this setup and my rail measures 13.468”, according to the guys at Dead Air, I need 0.180” +.1 to make sure all is clear for a loosened and fully seated suppressor.  Any issues with adding a .280 spacer, - a thousandth or 2 for spacers to time the FH, for the pin and weld? Sorry for the wall of text.
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I sent my BA 13.7" to Retro Arms Works. He made a small precision spacer to get the length with a SF Warcomp to legal length and aligned properly for a suppressor. I think the spacer was about .15" thick. He matched the barrel OD perfectly and pinned and welded the Warcomp. I'm sure he could make a spacer  in the thickness you require. He only had it for a day or 2. YMMV.
Link Posted: 2/22/2020 8:55:50 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/27/2020 8:09:57 PM EST
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I am in the tail end of my 13.7 build. Sending upper to John Thomas to have him pin and weld brake and add spacer to get it to 16”. Can should be here any day.
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 8:07:03 PM EST
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13.7 SOLGW barrel w/ B.E. Meyers 249F p/w.  Really happy with the overall look and how it points.  Headed to the range one day this week hopefully.
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 8:31:58 PM EST
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Good looking setup. On a side note, where are y’all finding BE249F’s?  I’ve only found them at Charlie’s Clones for a pretty hefty chunk of change and Hurricane-Butterfly wants 25 bucks to ship it to me. Other than the EE any ideas?
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 9:01:33 PM EST
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I found mine on here for $100.  Got to be quick because they go fast.  Found one on Armslist a while back for 50.  Seller didnt know what he had...
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 9:07:21 PM EST
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Good looking setup. On a side note, where are y’all finding BE249F’s?  I’ve only found them at Charlie’s Clones for a pretty hefty chunk of change and Hurricane-Butterfly wants 25 bucks to ship it to me. Other than the EE any ideas?
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Weapon outfitters has them
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 9:25:54 PM EST
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Weapon outfitters has them
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Got a link? I’ve only seen the ASR at Weapon Outfitters.
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 9:30:10 PM EST
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Got a link? I’ve only seen the ASR at Weapon Outfitters.
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https://www.weaponoutfitters.com/b-e-meyers-249f-flash-hider.html

Looks like they are out of stock now. Sorry

I have never heard of this place, but in stock

https://hurricane-butterfly.net/product/b-e-meyers-249f-5-56-223-flash-hider-1-2x28-tpi/
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 9:40:24 PM EST
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I’ve checked all over.  I can stomach the 125 for the FH, but the $20+ to ship is terrible.  May have to be poor and use the JP hider if my NOX doesn’t work out.

ETA, there is a nice one in the EE for $200 if anyone needs it that much.
Link Posted: 3/1/2020 9:47:02 PM EST
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I sent my BA 13.7" to Retro Arms Works. He made a small precision spacer to get the length with a SF Warcomp to legal length and aligned properly for a suppressor. I think the spacer was about .15" thick. He matched the barrel OD perfectly and pinned and welded the Warcomp. I'm sure he could make a spacer  in the thickness you require. He only had it for a day or 2. YMMV.
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This is what I am doing with my YHM brake.
Link Posted: 3/2/2020 12:15:15 AM EST
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The 249f is discontinued. JP Rifles bought the rights, but has yet to do anything with it.
Ballistic Advantage was the last place I knew if to have them in stock. I think it was WO that sent their stock to BA a while back.  Unfortunately BA is listing them as OOS as well.
Link Posted: 3/4/2020 7:14:11 PM EST
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I am sending out the barrel to get pinned and welded. Still no can. I am at 12 months. Viper PST got smashed in a freak accident, but Vortex is taking care of it. Here in about 2 weeks, I should have some pics of complete build, minus the can.
Link Posted: 3/4/2020 8:14:49 PM EST
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What kind of groupings are you guys getting with the 13.7" BA Hanson?
Link Posted: 3/4/2020 8:19:59 PM EST
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What kind of groupings are you guys getting with the 13.7" BA Hanson?
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I will let you know soon
Link Posted: 3/6/2020 6:25:20 PM EST
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Swapped the Elcan for an NX8.

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Link Posted: 3/6/2020 8:39:29 PM EST
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Nice!  I rattle canned mine a few days ago:

Link Posted: 3/6/2020 10:11:28 PM EST
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Put this upper and lower together over the last couple weeks. Upper has a Daniel Defense 16" mid length cut to 13.75 with a pin/welded BE Meyers, gas port opened to .076, done by Retro Arms. Handguard is an ALG V3X. Lower is a stripped ZEV with VLTOR A5 buffer system. I had it out yesterday and I'm very happy with the accuracy and gas system. Ejection was at 4:00 for Lake City M193 and 5:00 for Wolf 55gr steel.

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Link Posted: 3/14/2020 8:19:11 AM EST
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The YHM brake was too short, but the AAC 51T brakeout 1.0 is not. Came out to 16.05. The rail is 12.65. It is just enough to reach the ratchet button on the can.
Link Posted: 3/16/2020 8:59:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/17/2020 8:13:40 PM EST
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Very nice build!
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Thanks. I want with Vltor A5 buffer system on this one. Retro Arms Works pinned the break and it came out to 16.05. This is my first Viper PST. With the can, the optic and A5 with A5H2, it is a little heavier than I thought. I am getting a vert grip. I don’t like the hand stop
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 8:24:57 PM EST
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Thanks. I want with Vltor A5 buffer system on this one. Retro Arms Works pinned the break and it came out to 16.05. This is my first Viper PST. With the can, the optic and A5 with A5H2, it is a little heavier than I thought. I am getting a vert grip. I don’t like the hand stop
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I just got mine assembled. This is my first 13.7, it feels great, and balances well. Haven’t picked an optic or grip though.  I gotta say thanks for the recommendation on Retro Arms, John got the p&w on my flash hider, pinned a gas block, installed it on my upper, and had it back in the mail the same day.
Link Posted: 3/21/2020 10:14:58 AM EST
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What's the top choice for a lighter weight barrel that's going to be used suppressed?
Link Posted: 3/21/2020 6:39:16 PM EST
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BA 13.7" Hanson



Link Posted: 3/21/2020 8:59:09 PM EST
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The Ballistic Advantage Hansen profile barrels are pretty popular.  That said, I don't know about the profile performance while suppressed. 0.750 gas seat but slimmer profile elsewhere.  This is their blurb about the profile:

What is BA Hanson?
The BA Hanson Series exemplifies the quality and accuracy you have come to expect from Ballistic Advantage. BA Hanson Profile barrels feature a shoulder-less design, symmetrically limiting barrel “whip” and allowing the barrel too quickly return to its home position. This is extremely beneficial for follow up shots at a high rate of fire or full auto fire. Lightweight feel without the lightweight limitations, it is truly ideal for how an AR-15 is designed to perform.
Watch a video about our Hanson Series Barrels: Ballistic Advantage Hanson Premium Series

Link Posted: 3/21/2020 11:38:22 PM EST
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The Ballistic Advantage Hansen profile barrels are pretty popular.  That said, I don't know about the profile performance while suppressed. 0.750 gas seat but slimmer profile elsewhere.  This is their blurb about the profile:

What is BA Hanson?
The BA Hanson Series exemplifies the quality and accuracy you have come to expect from Ballistic Advantage. BA Hanson Profile barrels feature a shoulder-less design, symmetrically limiting barrel “whip” and allowing the barrel too quickly return to its home position. This is extremely beneficial for follow up shots at a high rate of fire or full auto fire. Lightweight feel without the lightweight limitations, it is truly ideal for how an AR-15 is designed to perform.
Watch a video about our Hanson Series Barrels: Ballistic Advantage Hanson Premium Series

https://www.ballisticadvantage.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/1/4/14_in_5.56_ba_hanson_performance_1_5.jpg
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Only reason I went with the SOLGW over the BA was the gas length.  I have 2 other BA barrels, one being the 16" Hanson and that barrel shoots spectacular.  Far more accurate than I am capable of....
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