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Posted: 1/23/2016 4:48:51 PM EST
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I am in the process of doing a lightweight build. I am planning on using as many titanium parts from v7. Is this the best route and will the titanium hold up? Anything currently available in titanium will hold up fine. Things that titanium isn't suitable for would include bolts and barrels. Damn near anything else will be more than fine. |
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Posted: 1/23/2016 6:54:01 PM EST
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I am in the process of doing a lightweight build. I am planning on using as many titanium parts from v7. Is this the best route and will the titanium hold up? You must be one of the Power Ball winners. Building an AR-15 out of titanium will not be cheap. |
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Posted: 1/23/2016 6:56:28 PM EST
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And the machining will be a pain...
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Posted: 1/23/2016 7:01:45 PM EST
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And the machining will be a pain... He already stated he's buying V7 parts 
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Posted: 1/23/2016 7:04:21 PM EST
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I have a Bunch of V7 weapons systems parts, including their lower waiting for a few more parts to arrive. they're all top notch lightweight parts.
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Posted: 1/23/2016 10:37:57 PM EST
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I am buying all my small parts from v7 as I stated in my original post. Upper and lower are aero precision.
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:17:02 AM EST
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I am buying all my small parts from v7 as I stated in my original post. Upper and lower are aero precision. Which Aero upper did you get? |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:23:29 AM EST
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Upper has no forward assist and I am putting a v7 port door on it.
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:25:53 AM EST
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Upper has no forward assist and I am putting a v7 port door on it. Strike industries polymer dust cover is lighter I believe, its the one I'm using. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:26:01 AM EST
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Upper has no forward assist and I am putting a v7 port door on it. Strike industries has a polymer port door assembly that weights like 0.011 oz less |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:36:05 AM EST
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Upper has no forward assist and I am putting a v7 port door on it. Strike industries has a polymer port door assembly that weights like 0.011 oz less Strike Port door may not work with every BCG, the little flares on the inside on either side of the ball detent are wider than a 'mil spec' and it interfered with a LanTac E-BCG on my Aero upper. YMMV and such, I like the V7 lightweight port door an 'improved' arm, but they are spendy parts. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:46:03 AM EST
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Strike Port door may not work with every BCG, the little flares on the inside on either side of the ball detent are wider than a 'mil spec' and it interfered with a LanTac E-BCG on my Aero upper. YMMV and such, I like the V7 lightweight port door an 'improved' arm, but they are spendy parts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Upper has no forward assist and I am putting a v7 port door on it. Strike industries has a polymer port door assembly that weights like 0.011 oz less Strike Port door may not work with every BCG, the little flares on the inside on either side of the ball detent are wider than a 'mil spec' and it interfered with a LanTac E-BCG on my Aero upper. YMMV and such, I like the V7 lightweight port door an 'improved' arm, but they are spendy parts. I didnt know that, I'm going to have to check if it interferes with my bolt carrier when i get it. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 2:07:33 AM EST
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Aluminum is lighter than Titanium, and there are some aluminum port doors around, though, it not that much of a weight difference to feel...even with a standard steel cover.
The best you could do is no cover. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 9:54:15 AM EST
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Aluminum is lighter than Titanium, and there are some aluminum port doors around, though, it not that much of a weight difference to feel...even with a standard steel cover.The best you could do is no cover. You don't get an aluminum port door by itself for weight reduction. You get a lot of parts titanium/aluminum. When they add up they equal a pound or so. Which then becomes significant. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 10:56:11 AM EST
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Checkout vertexops.com, they offer V7 and other brands of lightweight parts.
also look into aluminum parts as well. There are many AR parts that are made of steel not because of the strength or durability requirements but because it keeps the cost down. If you get a Titanium or aluminum BCG make sure you pick up a adjustable gas block as the reduced weight of the actions requires much less gas. As far as durability and reliability goes I have no issues and put over 5k rounds through my lightweight build most of which was in full auto. Another big weight saver is a pencil barrel and picking the right rail, the KMR rail with aftermarket titanium barrel nut and clamps makes for one of the lightest rail possible. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 10:58:55 AM EST
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You don't get an aluminum port door by itself for weight reduction. You get a lot of parts titanium/aluminum. When they add up they equal a pound or so. Which then becomes significant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aluminum is lighter than Titanium, and there are some aluminum port doors around, though, it not that much of a weight difference to feel...even with a standard steel cover.The best you could do is no cover. You don't get an aluminum port door by itself for weight reduction. You get a lot of parts titanium/aluminum. When they add up they equal a pound or so. Which then becomes significant. Bingo! Some lightweight parts may only save a few grams, but grams add to oz and oz add to lbs. before you know it a 8lb rifle is a 6lb rifle. With that being said you can have thousands of dollars in lightweight parts so a full blown light as possible build is not for someone on a budget |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 11:20:17 AM EST
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Will the aluminium parts hold up to heavy use like titanium?
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Posted: 1/24/2016 11:40:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will the aluminium parts hold up to heavy use like titanium? Depends on the part... |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:32:39 PM EST
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Checkout vertexops.com, they offer V7 and other brands of lightweight parts. also look into aluminum parts as well. There are many AR parts that are made of steel not because of the strength or durability requirements but because it keeps the cost down. If you get a Titanium or aluminum BCG make sure you pick up a adjustable gas block as the reduced weight of the actions requires much less gas. As far as durability and reliability goes I have no issues and put over 5k rounds through my lightweight build most of which was in full auto. Another big weight saver is a pencil barrel and picking the right rail, the KMR rail with aftermarket titanium barrel nut and clamps makes for one of the lightest rail possible. I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 12:38:54 PM EST
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I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Checkout vertexops.com, they offer V7 and other brands of lightweight parts. also look into aluminum parts as well. There are many AR parts that are made of steel not because of the strength or durability requirements but because it keeps the cost down. If you get a Titanium or aluminum BCG make sure you pick up a adjustable gas block as the reduced weight of the actions requires much less gas. As far as durability and reliability goes I have no issues and put over 5k rounds through my lightweight build most of which was in full auto. Another big weight saver is a pencil barrel and picking the right rail, the KMR rail with aftermarket titanium barrel nut and clamps makes for one of the lightest rail possible. I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. Pretty sure the reason why the they came out with kmr alpha was because of the demand for aluminum rather than magnesium. But I haven't heard much about the problems with kmr. However I would use all aluminum parts besides the barre nut and bcg. The lightest I would go for that would be titanium. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 1:02:50 PM EST
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Pretty sure the reason why the they came out with kmr alpha was because of the demand for aluminum rather than magnesium. But I haven't heard much about the problems with kmr. However I would use all aluminum parts besides the barre nut and bcg. The lightest I would go for that would be titanium. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Checkout vertexops.com, they offer V7 and other brands of lightweight parts. also look into aluminum parts as well. There are many AR parts that are made of steel not because of the strength or durability requirements but because it keeps the cost down. If you get a Titanium or aluminum BCG make sure you pick up a adjustable gas block as the reduced weight of the actions requires much less gas. As far as durability and reliability goes I have no issues and put over 5k rounds through my lightweight build most of which was in full auto. Another big weight saver is a pencil barrel and picking the right rail, the KMR rail with aftermarket titanium barrel nut and clamps makes for one of the lightest rail possible. I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. Pretty sure the reason why the they came out with kmr alpha was because of the demand for aluminum rather than magnesium. But I haven't heard much about the problems with kmr. However I would use all aluminum parts besides the barre nut and bcg. The lightest I would go for that would be titanium. You can shave weight off doing that, I just cannot seem to find a receiver/handguard combination made out of aluminum that is lighter than the Aero setup. The BCM Alpha is 9.9oz with hardware for a 13" rail, I know the Aero is 1 inch shorter, but its 7.68 oz. I saw that the BCM alpha is 7.7 oz before hardware for 1" more of rail, so its likely slightly lighter if it was the same length. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 1:47:32 PM EST
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You can shave weight off doing that, I just cannot seem to find a receiver/handguard combination made out of aluminum that is lighter than the Aero setup. The BCM Alpha is 9.9oz with hardware for a 13" rail, I know the Aero is 1 inch shorter, but its 7.68 oz. I saw that the BCM alpha is 7.7 oz before hardware for 1" more of rail, so its likely slightly lighter if it was the same length. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Checkout vertexops.com, they offer V7 and other brands of lightweight parts. also look into aluminum parts as well. There are many AR parts that are made of steel not because of the strength or durability requirements but because it keeps the cost down. If you get a Titanium or aluminum BCG make sure you pick up a adjustable gas block as the reduced weight of the actions requires much less gas. As far as durability and reliability goes I have no issues and put over 5k rounds through my lightweight build most of which was in full auto. Another big weight saver is a pencil barrel and picking the right rail, the KMR rail with aftermarket titanium barrel nut and clamps makes for one of the lightest rail possible. I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. Pretty sure the reason why the they came out with kmr alpha was because of the demand for aluminum rather than magnesium. But I haven't heard much about the problems with kmr. However I would use all aluminum parts besides the barre nut and bcg. The lightest I would go for that would be titanium. You can shave weight off doing that, I just cannot seem to find a receiver/handguard combination made out of aluminum that is lighter than the Aero setup. The BCM Alpha is 9.9oz with hardware for a 13" rail, I know the Aero is 1 inch shorter, but its 7.68 oz. I saw that the BCM alpha is 7.7 oz before hardware for 1" more of rail, so its likely slightly lighter if it was the same length. Yeah. I would go with the BCM KMR 15 is 8.1oz w/ hardware (v7 titanium nut would be lighter. While aero is 9.28 with hardware. Just get the magnesium alloy. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 1:56:57 PM EST
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Yeah. I would go with the BCM KMR 15 is 8.1oz w/ hardware (v7 titanium nut would be lighter. While aero is 9.28 with hardware. Just get the magnesium alloy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Checkout vertexops.com, they offer V7 and other brands of lightweight parts. also look into aluminum parts as well. There are many AR parts that are made of steel not because of the strength or durability requirements but because it keeps the cost down. If you get a Titanium or aluminum BCG make sure you pick up a adjustable gas block as the reduced weight of the actions requires much less gas. As far as durability and reliability goes I have no issues and put over 5k rounds through my lightweight build most of which was in full auto. Another big weight saver is a pencil barrel and picking the right rail, the KMR rail with aftermarket titanium barrel nut and clamps makes for one of the lightest rail possible. I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. Pretty sure the reason why the they came out with kmr alpha was because of the demand for aluminum rather than magnesium. But I haven't heard much about the problems with kmr. However I would use all aluminum parts besides the barre nut and bcg. The lightest I would go for that would be titanium. You can shave weight off doing that, I just cannot seem to find a receiver/handguard combination made out of aluminum that is lighter than the Aero setup. The BCM Alpha is 9.9oz with hardware for a 13" rail, I know the Aero is 1 inch shorter, but its 7.68 oz. I saw that the BCM alpha is 7.7 oz before hardware for 1" more of rail, so its likely slightly lighter if it was the same length. Yeah. I would go with the BCM KMR 15 is 8.1oz w/ hardware (v7 titanium nut would be lighter. While aero is 9.28 with hardware. Just get the magnesium alloy. There were some durability issues with keymod holes on the Magnesium alloy models. You can find some threads on here about them. I'm not sure if the specs on aeros website for the handguard include the barrel nut or not. I'm using their upper though. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 2:44:01 PM EST
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I just cannot seem to find a receiver/handguard combination made out of aluminum that is lighter than the Aero setup. The BCM Alpha is 9.9oz with hardware for a 13" rail, I know the Aero is 1 inch shorter, but its 7.68 oz. I saw that the BCM alpha is 7.7 oz before hardware for 1" more of rail, so its likely slightly lighter if it was the same length. Rebuilding my lightweight upper because there are some more than light parts in it. Aero No FA upper with a 14" SLR Solo Ultralight at 9.5 ounces. 6.5 ounces for the upper. Should, assuming no ones scale is lying, come in at 16 ounces for an all aluminum setup. It's pretty much the difference between the forward assist in weight. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 3:11:38 PM EST
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Rebuilding my lightweight upper because there are some more than light parts in it. Aero No FA upper with a 14" SLR Solo Ultralight at 9.5 ounces. 6.5 ounces for the upper. Should, assuming no ones scale is lying, come in at 16 ounces for an all aluminum setup. It's pretty much the difference between the forward assist in weight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just cannot seem to find a receiver/handguard combination made out of aluminum that is lighter than the Aero setup. The BCM Alpha is 9.9oz with hardware for a 13" rail, I know the Aero is 1 inch shorter, but its 7.68 oz. I saw that the BCM alpha is 7.7 oz before hardware for 1" more of rail, so its likely slightly lighter if it was the same length. Rebuilding my lightweight upper because there are some more than light parts in it. Aero No FA upper with a 14" SLR Solo Ultralight at 9.5 ounces. 6.5 ounces for the upper. Should, assuming no ones scale is lying, come in at 16 ounces for an all aluminum setup. It's pretty much the difference between the forward assist in weight. DSA Enhanced upper is 6.4oz and has a forward assist. Just get that. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 3:20:31 PM EST
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I can't understand when people are going for lightweight and spend the extra money for titanium then purchase an upper receiver that isn't the lightest you can purchase
This is a Rock River Arms 9mm upper that hasn't been drilled for a gas tube yet (it WILL be lighter afterwards)... 
Anderson Arms offers this very receiver already drilled for the gas tube for $51.02 LINK Then you have the boutique manufacturers offering "lightweight" billet uppers that aren't this light. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 4:00:02 PM EST
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I can't understand when people are going for lightweight and spend the extra money for titanium then purchase an upper receiver that isn't the lightest you can purchase
This is a Rock River Arms 9mm upper that hasn't been drilled for a gas tube yet (it WILL be lighter afterwards)... <a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/PursuitSS/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3E959C9D-6D6D-4DA9-BC91-9A586DD4B1AB.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3E959C9D-6D6D-4DA9-BC91-9A586DD4B1AB.jpg</a> Anderson Arms offers this very receiver already drilled for the gas tube for $51.02 LINK Then you have the boutique manufacturers offering "lightweight" billet uppers that aren't this light. I like having the brass deflector on my uppers, and the way that the aero upper goes together. I posted in their forum asking if they're gonna have a M4E1 without FA available sometime. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 4:33:55 PM EST
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I can't understand when people are going for lightweight and spend the extra money for titanium then purchase an upper receiver that isn't the lightest you can purchase
I'll eat the half ounce for a shell deflector, since I shoot left handed. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 8:57:19 PM EST
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I also went with the brass deflector because one of my boys is a lefty.
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Posted: 1/24/2016 9:33:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm using the Aero precision M4E1 keymod combo on my lightweight build and cannot find a lighter weight combo when counting barrel nuts and everything using standard aluminum parts, the KMR is light, but the KMR 2nd gen one is not as light, I believe they had to change the makeup of the alloy used as I remember quite a few threads about issues with the original KMR. 17.92 OZ receiver and handguard combined for a 12" keymod. Midwest Lightweight MLOK 12" is 8.2oz with nut (I weighed mine and the listed weight is accurate) Plus a 6oz upper Is 14.2oz. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 9:41:42 PM EST
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I like having the brass deflector on my uppers, and the way that the aero upper goes together. I posted in their forum asking if they're gonna have a M4E1 without FA available sometime. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't understand when people are going for lightweight and spend the extra money for titanium then purchase an upper receiver that isn't the lightest you can purchase
This is a Rock River Arms 9mm upper that hasn't been drilled for a gas tube yet (it WILL be lighter afterwards)... <a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/PursuitSS/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3E959C9D-6D6D-4DA9-BC91-9A586DD4B1AB.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3E959C9D-6D6D-4DA9-BC91-9A586DD4B1AB.jpg</a> Anderson Arms offers this very receiver already drilled for the gas tube for $51.02 LINK Then you have the boutique manufacturers offering "lightweight" billet uppers that aren't this light. I like having the brass deflector on my uppers, and the way that the aero upper goes together. I posted in their forum asking if they're gonna have a M4E1 without FA available sometime. I'll eat half an ounce for a FA if it means it saves my life. You never know. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 9:59:37 PM EST
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I'll eat half an ounce for a FA if it means it saves my life. You never know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't understand when people are going for lightweight and spend the extra money for titanium then purchase an upper receiver that isn't the lightest you can purchase
This is a Rock River Arms 9mm upper that hasn't been drilled for a gas tube yet (it WILL be lighter afterwards)... <a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/PursuitSS/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3E959C9D-6D6D-4DA9-BC91-9A586DD4B1AB.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3E959C9D-6D6D-4DA9-BC91-9A586DD4B1AB.jpg</a> Anderson Arms offers this very receiver already drilled for the gas tube for $51.02 LINK Then you have the boutique manufacturers offering "lightweight" billet uppers that aren't this light. I like having the brass deflector on my uppers, and the way that the aero upper goes together. I posted in their forum asking if they're gonna have a M4E1 without FA available sometime. I'll eat half an ounce for a FA if it means it saves my life. You never know. Get the Forward Controls titanium FA then. It's light, minimalist and beautiful. http://forwardcontrolsdesign.com/LDFA-Ti-Low-Drag-Forward-Assist-Titanium_p_15.html 
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Posted: 1/24/2016 10:11:37 PM EST
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$50????
$10 steel FA sound much better. |
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Posted: 1/24/2016 10:18:02 PM EST
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$50???? $10 steel FA sound much better. They have a 36 dollar steel one... If you're left handed and have ever REALLY caught your nail on the forward assist, it gets a lot more tempting to buy a few. Instead I just learned to stop getting nail extensions the day before the carbine match. 
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Posted: 1/25/2016 1:12:12 PM EST
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$50???? $10 steel FA sound much better. Lightweight rifle parts are not for someone one building a rifle on a budget. Its not uncommon for tiny pieces of aluminum or titanium to run $50+ or receivers, rails, BGC, etc to run $500+ My friend thinks im crazy because i have individual parts that are worth more than the total value of his AR15. I was that way once too, I couldnt understand why someone would pay more than $500-1000 for a AR15, theyre all the same right? Nope! I remember the first time i looked through a Eotech, my mind exploded and ran out my ears. I no longer had to balance the rear and front sight with the target, i could now just focus on the target and the dot floated in perfect focus. That stated a long dark road of addiction to excessive spending on firearms.... 
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Posted: 1/25/2016 1:51:31 PM EST
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how light are yoy trying to go a 16" pencil barrel colt is under 6lbs.
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Posted: 1/25/2016 2:04:20 PM EST
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Thank you gents for bringing up the LDFA (low drag forward assist)
The LDFA was created based on my experience using and shooting with an ambi charging handle. The A2 FA has a rim that can and often does catch on my fingernail when I shoot, load, and reload using my weak side. Many eft hand shooters I've spoke to had also expressed the same issue. The A2 spec FA is rarely used these days, so it can afford to get smaller and lighter. It was designed long before the advent of ambi charging handles. As the AR evolves and take on more ambi controls, it's almost inevitable these controls come into conflict with another that was never designed to work in conjunction with it. The easiest thing to do is simply grind off the FA's rim from 9 to 3 o'clock. We'd have to buy A2 spec FAs with unknown origin and manually do the trim one at a time. It was decided to make a rimless FA from the ground up, using material and construction methods we can control, and have them made in the US. LDFA and ABC/R (Augmented Bolt Catch/Release, designed for ambi mag catch that obscures the factory bolt catch's lower paddle) are both evolutionary components that reflect the AR's own evolution
As with everything we make, it's hard use, duty grade component that doesn't shout "look at me!", it does what it was designed to do (and not do) quietly without fanfare. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 2:10:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am buying all my small parts from v7 as I stated in my original post. Upper and lower are aero precision. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 2:34:07 PM EST
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Why not Mag Tactical or Balios Lite? It seems you would have far more weight savings from them than using V7 small parts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am buying all my small parts from v7 as I stated in my original post. Upper and lower are aero precision. Mag tactical is out of business. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 2:46:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mag tactical is out of business. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am buying all my small parts from v7 as I stated in my original post. Upper and lower are aero precision. Mag tactical is out of business. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 2:52:50 PM EST
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The v7 minimal FA is the lightest on the market. And it's good for lefties like myself. It's not titanium though. It's aluminum and steel.
image Looks cool too. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 4:07:47 PM EST
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I built this with a bunch of V7 parts. I used the Balios Lite lower, upper and free float handguard. I am very pleased with it.
The only problem I have is that it starts to short stroke after about 120 rounds shooting 245 gr coated cast bullets suppressed. the suppressor causes the action to get dirty. After a quick clean it is back up and running. If I run without the suppressor I don't experience that problem. I have never had a problem with a titanium part. Here is the build list: 2A Armament Balios-Lite Billet Lightweight AR-15 Upper and Lower Receiver Set V Seven Weapons Lightweight Combo Pack (QD Endplate & Castle Nut) V7 Weapon Systems Titanium AR-15 Trigger and Hammer Pins V Seven Weapons aluminum Mag Catch and Release V Seven Hybrid 3 Gun Sport Safety Selector - 57 Degree Short Throw Geissele Automatics Super Semi-Automatic Enhanced (SSA-E) AR-15/AR-10 Trigger V Seven Weapons Ultra-Light S7 Tool Steel Bolt Catch for AR-15 2A Armament Lightweight AR-15 Titanium Takedown Pins V7 Weapon Systems Titanium Grip Screw 2A Armament Lite Rail M-Lok AR Handguard - 7 Inch Lite Rail V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Improved Cam Pin V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Port Door Rod - Straight V Seven Weapons AR-15 Carbine Buffer Tube Boomfab AR-15 Titane (Titanium) Bolt Carrier with Staked Gas Key SLR Rifleworks Sentry 7 Adjustable Titanium Set Screw Gas Block - .750" Diameter 2A Armament Lightweight Aluminum Barrel Nut Shepherd Firearms Billet Titanium AR-15/M4 Firing Pin V Seven Weapons AR-15 Ultra-Light Ejection Port Door Blackhole Weaponry - AR15 300BO 8.0 Pistol length gas tube Mission First Tactical Minimalist (rubber butt pad removed) A2 pistol grip (internally lightened) Leupold VX-6 Rifle Scope 30mm 1-6x 24mm (CDS) FireDot Circle Aero Precision Ultralight 30mm SPR AR15 Scope Mount |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 4:11:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I built this with a bunch of V7 parts. I used the Balios Lite lower, upper and free float handguard. I am very pleased with it. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=84340 The only problem I have is that it starts to short stroke after about 120 rounds shooting 245 gr coated cast bullets suppressed. the suppressor causes the action to get dirty. After a quick clean it is back up and running. If I run without the suppressor I don't experience that problem. I have never had a problem with a titanium part. Here is the build list: 2A Armament Balios-Lite Billet Lightweight AR-15 Upper and Lower Receiver Set V Seven Weapons Lightweight Combo Pack (QD Endplate & Castle Nut) V7 Weapon Systems Titanium AR-15 Trigger and Hammer Pins V Seven Weapons aluminum Mag Catch and Release V Seven Hybrid 3 Gun Sport Safety Selector - 57 Degree Short Throw Geissele Automatics Super Semi-Automatic Enhanced (SSA-E) AR-15/AR-10 Trigger V Seven Weapons Ultra-Light S7 Tool Steel Bolt Catch for AR-15 2A Armament Lightweight AR-15 Titanium Takedown Pins V7 Weapon Systems Titanium Grip Screw 2A Armament Lite Rail M-Lok AR Handguard - 7 Inch Lite Rail V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Improved Cam Pin V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Port Door Rod - Straight V Seven Weapons AR-15 Carbine Buffer Tube Boomfab AR-15 Titane (Titanium) Bolt Carrier with Staked Gas Key SLR Rifleworks Sentry 7 Adjustable Titanium Set Screw Gas Block - .750" Diameter 2A Armament Lightweight Aluminum Barrel Nut Shepherd Firearms Billet Titanium AR-15/M4 Firing Pin V Seven Weapons AR-15 Ultra-Light Ejection Port Door Blackhole Weaponry - AR15 300BO 8.0 Pistol length gas tube Mission First Tactical Minimalist (rubber butt pad removed) A2 pistol grip (internally lightened) Leupold VX-6 Rifle Scope 30mm 1-6x 24mm (CDS) FireDot Circle Aero Precision Ultralight 30mm SPR AR15 Scope Mount |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 4:19:42 PM EST
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Nice looking stick! I wonder if you could up your spring weight to keep it reliable for a few more rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I built this with a bunch of V7 parts. I used the Balios Lite lower, upper and free float handguard. I am very pleased with it. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=84340 The only problem I have is that it starts to short stroke after about 120 rounds shooting 245 gr coated cast bullets suppressed. the suppressor causes the action to get dirty. After a quick clean it is back up and running. If I run without the suppressor I don't experience that problem. I have never had a problem with a titanium part. Here is the build list: 2A Armament Balios-Lite Billet Lightweight AR-15 Upper and Lower Receiver Set V Seven Weapons Lightweight Combo Pack (QD Endplate & Castle Nut) V7 Weapon Systems Titanium AR-15 Trigger and Hammer Pins V Seven Weapons aluminum Mag Catch and Release V Seven Hybrid 3 Gun Sport Safety Selector - 57 Degree Short Throw Geissele Automatics Super Semi-Automatic Enhanced (SSA-E) AR-15/AR-10 Trigger V Seven Weapons Ultra-Light S7 Tool Steel Bolt Catch for AR-15 2A Armament Lightweight AR-15 Titanium Takedown Pins V7 Weapon Systems Titanium Grip Screw 2A Armament Lite Rail M-Lok AR Handguard - 7 Inch Lite Rail V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Improved Cam Pin V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Port Door Rod - Straight V Seven Weapons AR-15 Carbine Buffer Tube Boomfab AR-15 Titane (Titanium) Bolt Carrier with Staked Gas Key SLR Rifleworks Sentry 7 Adjustable Titanium Set Screw Gas Block - .750" Diameter 2A Armament Lightweight Aluminum Barrel Nut Shepherd Firearms Billet Titanium AR-15/M4 Firing Pin V Seven Weapons AR-15 Ultra-Light Ejection Port Door Blackhole Weaponry - AR15 300BO 8.0 Pistol length gas tube Mission First Tactical Minimalist (rubber butt pad removed) A2 pistol grip (internally lightened) Leupold VX-6 Rifle Scope 30mm 1-6x 24mm (CDS) FireDot Circle Aero Precision Ultralight 30mm SPR AR15 Scope Mount I know if I turn up the gas it will last longer. The problem is not that it won't go back into battery, the problem is that it does not cycle back far enough to pick up the next round when it gets real dirty. I have been looking at a new suppressor that seems to eliminate the back flow of gas but it is pricey. Either way it makes no difference as this is not a battle weapon but is used to hog hunt etc. I will never run it that long on one of my hunts. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 5:20:39 PM EST
[#45]
A BALIOS-lite upper and lower, and our 12" BL-RAIL with the aluminum nut, and all hardware is 19.8oz total
And it's sturdy as all get out! Heck it even has a full top rail!
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Posted: 1/25/2016 5:23:15 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A BALIOS-lite upper and lower, and our 12" BL-RAIL with the aluminum nut, and all hardware is 19.8oz total And it's sturdy as all get out! Heck it even has a full top rail! Ryan |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 5:49:05 PM EST
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I know if I turn up the gas it will last longer. The problem is not that it won't go back into battery, the problem is that it does not cycle back far enough to pick up the next round when it gets real dirty. I have been looking at a new suppressor that seems to eliminate the back flow of gas but it is pricey. Either way it makes no difference as this is not a battle weapon but is used to hog hunt etc. I will never run it that long on one of my hunts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I built this with a bunch of V7 parts. I used the Balios Lite lower, upper and free float handguard. I am very pleased with it. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=84340 The only problem I have is that it starts to short stroke after about 120 rounds shooting 245 gr coated cast bullets suppressed. the suppressor causes the action to get dirty. After a quick clean it is back up and running. If I run without the suppressor I don't experience that problem. I have never had a problem with a titanium part. Here is the build list: 2A Armament Balios-Lite Billet Lightweight AR-15 Upper and Lower Receiver Set V Seven Weapons Lightweight Combo Pack (QD Endplate & Castle Nut) V7 Weapon Systems Titanium AR-15 Trigger and Hammer Pins V Seven Weapons aluminum Mag Catch and Release V Seven Hybrid 3 Gun Sport Safety Selector - 57 Degree Short Throw Geissele Automatics Super Semi-Automatic Enhanced (SSA-E) AR-15/AR-10 Trigger V Seven Weapons Ultra-Light S7 Tool Steel Bolt Catch for AR-15 2A Armament Lightweight AR-15 Titanium Takedown Pins V7 Weapon Systems Titanium Grip Screw 2A Armament Lite Rail M-Lok AR Handguard - 7 Inch Lite Rail V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Improved Cam Pin V7 Weapon Systems AR-15 Port Door Rod - Straight V Seven Weapons AR-15 Carbine Buffer Tube Boomfab AR-15 Titane (Titanium) Bolt Carrier with Staked Gas Key SLR Rifleworks Sentry 7 Adjustable Titanium Set Screw Gas Block - .750" Diameter 2A Armament Lightweight Aluminum Barrel Nut Shepherd Firearms Billet Titanium AR-15/M4 Firing Pin V Seven Weapons AR-15 Ultra-Light Ejection Port Door Blackhole Weaponry - AR15 300BO 8.0 Pistol length gas tube Mission First Tactical Minimalist (rubber butt pad removed) A2 pistol grip (internally lightened) Leupold VX-6 Rifle Scope 30mm 1-6x 24mm (CDS) FireDot Circle Aero Precision Ultralight 30mm SPR AR15 Scope Mount I know if I turn up the gas it will last longer. The problem is not that it won't go back into battery, the problem is that it does not cycle back far enough to pick up the next round when it gets real dirty. I have been looking at a new suppressor that seems to eliminate the back flow of gas but it is pricey. Either way it makes no difference as this is not a battle weapon but is used to hog hunt etc. I will never run it that long on one of my hunts. Jaqufrost got me thinking. It might be the JP Captured spring (which I like) that is slowing down the action when it gets dirty. I will get it all cleaned up and load a few hundred rounds and take it back out to the range and run it with a standard spring and a heavy buffer and see what I get. Also I noticed that Ryan posted info about the 12" rail etc with the aluminum barrel nut. If you are looking to save weight the 2A Armament aluminum barrel nut is a big savings over the titanium barrel nut. I found I was more comfortable torquing down the titanium nut first (which comes with the handguard) then removing it and then torquing the aluminum. That way you put less stress on the aluminum threads. Not sure it is necessary but that is what I do. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 7:25:32 PM EST
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The v7 minimal FA is the lightest on the market. And it's good for lefties like myself. It's not titanium though. It's aluminum and steel. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s27.postimg.org/5tpj0rtwj/image.jpg</a> image Looks cool too. I thought the DSA was the lightest FA upper? |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 8:02:41 PM EST
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Can you post pictures of the rail on the upper and lower? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A BALIOS-lite upper and lower, and our 12" BL-RAIL with the aluminum nut, and all hardware is 19.8oz total And it's sturdy as all get out! Heck it even has a full top rail!
Ryan 
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Posted: 1/25/2016 8:16:15 PM EST
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I thought the DSA was the lightest FA upper? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The v7 minimal FA is the lightest on the market. And it's good for lefties like myself. It's not titanium though. It's aluminum and steel. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s27.postimg.org/5tpj0rtwj/image.jpg</a> image Looks cool too. I thought the DSA was the lightest FA upper? V7 minimal forward assist. I said nothing about upper. DSA still is the lightest upper with FA |
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