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I understand that some bullets group better at close ranges because they tend to be more effected by wind drift, but I have a hard time seeing a 1" group at 100 yards ballooning to a 9-12" group at 300 yards.
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. Bwahahahaha! 
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. I dont think you understand the concept of MOA Bingo. Doesn't get it |
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. Bwahahahaha!
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. I dont think you understand the concept of MOA Bingo. Doesn't get it Please, enlighten us. 
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. Bwahahahaha!
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. I dont think you understand the concept of MOA Bingo. Doesn't get it I guess I still dont 
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The irony is; barring some enviormental factor, a bullets Minute of Angle does not change in flight. From a machine rest; a one moa rifle shoots 1" (approximately for the nitpickers)@ 100 yds, 2" @ 200, 3" @ 300, and so on
a 2 inch moa gun shoots 2" @100, 4" @200, 6" @300. If the shooter is good enough, it's the same from the bench..... I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to correct whatever mistakes I've made 
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. Bwahahahaha!
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. I dont think you understand the concept of MOA Bingo. Doesn't get it Please, enlighten us. |
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Quoted: still doesn't get it.The irony is; barring some enviormental factor, a bullets Minute of Angle does not change in flight. From a machine rest; a one moa rifle shoots 1" (approximately for the nitpickers)@ 100 yds, 2" @ 200, 3" @ 300, and so on a 2 inch moa gun shoots 2" @100, 4" @200, 6" @300. If the shooter is good enough, it's the same from the bench..... I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to correct whatever mistakes I've made Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. Bwahahahaha! . . . Gets it Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. I dont think you understand the concept of MOA Bingo. Doesn't get it Please, enlighten us. It's a joke people. The man was being a smart ass. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Is that a GG&G T-1 mount? Affirmative. Although, I'm using the KAC mount these days. http://www.box.net/shared/static/2orele3lq8.jpg http://www.box.net/shared/static/qks4a48nmz.jpg Why, just like the look better? I'm tying to decide between the two, but leaning towards the GG&G. |
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The irony is; barring some enviormental factor, a bullets Minute of Angle does not change in flight. From a machine rest; a one moa rifle shoots 1" (approximately for the nitpickers)@ 100 yds, 2" @ 200, 3" @ 300, and so on a 2 inch moa gun shoots 2" @100, 4" @200, 6" @300. If the shooter is good enough, it's the same from the bench..... I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to correct whatever mistakes I've made
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. Bwahahahaha!
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That test group may be around 1 MOA at a hundred yards, but it's going to blow up to 3 or 4 MOA at 300 yards. 3 or 4 MOA isn't all that impressive. I dont think you understand the concept of MOA Bingo. Doesn't get it Please, enlighten us. It's a joke people. The man was being a smart ass. Why? Everyone knows what 1 MOA at 500 yards is in Inches. |
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I have no sense of internet humor  I guess I should explain - recently there was actually a thread in which someone posted something very similar, but he was serious. Since Molon likes to have a little fun with many of the oft-used misconceptions and exaggerations that tend to float around this and other sites, I thought it would be a good fit for this thread. Edit - here is the actual quote for reference: "1.5 MOA at 300 Meters is pretty damn good. thats .5 MOA at 100 yards roughly I'd call that decent shooting and very combat effective." |
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Is that a GG&G T-1 mount? Affirmative. Although, I'm using the KAC mount these days. http://www.box.net/shared/static/2orele3lq8.jpg http://www.box.net/shared/static/qks4a48nmz.jpg Why, just like the look better? No, I like the fact that the KAC has a real absolute-cowitness. |
| I don't come back here often but finding a new post by Molon is a real treat when I do. Thanks for the work and posted results. BTW for all the handloaders out there looking for a good load that works well in most rifles. I've found that 55gr. Vmax's over 27.0 gr. of Varget in LC brass seated to 2.250 with CCI primers shoots very well in all my Ar's. Even the 1/7 WOA shoots it sub moa. to 200. It's my go to 3 gun load also. |
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You suck at shooting. My Olympic AR shoots 0.5 MOA with M193 all day long. and my 1911 can shoot 0.1 MOA for a week straight  
Thanks for the post Molon My oly isn't that good....but I can shoot 3/4 MOA all day long....with my reloads. .750" 5-shot groups are no problem at 100yds.
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You suck at shooting. My Olympic AR shoots 0.5 MOA with M193 all day long. Someone mention Olympic?? But FMJ sucks like a Shop Vac, in fact, in 38 years of reloading I've never seen FMJ shoot worth a shit in any caliber, rifle or load, especially consistantly. The FBBT was typo, it should be FBHP for flat base hollow point. 
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Molon, Once again great post. That's a nice looking mount you have there! Obviously works pretty well too.  I haven't had any problems with it so far. I was a little concerned about the throw lever snagging, but it hasn't been an issue. You need to use a ™ symbol when using the term "Throw Lever™" or be sued by the Dick.
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Molon, Once again great post. That's a nice looking mount you have there! Obviously works pretty well too. I haven't had any problems with it so far. I was a little concerned about the throw lever snagging, but it hasn't been an issue. You need to use a ™ symbol when using the term "Throw Lever™" or be sued by the Dick. 
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Molon, you need a blog or website or something so I can actually navigate your dozens of extremely awesome, well explained posts. You've just made too many awesome, extremely relevant posts for me to find them all. Molon reference links |
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Could someone please enlighten me as to why FMJ's do not produce very accurate results? I realize that there are several different variables to consider not only in the bullet, but also with the firearm/shooter but is there a certain type of bullet that is "more accurate" than the others?
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Could someone please enlighten me as to why FMJ's do not produce very accurate results? I realize that there are several different variables to consider not only in the bullet, but also with the firearm/shooter but is there a certain type of bullet that is "more accurate" than the others? Thanks! Open Tip Match bullets are far more accurate than Full Metal Jacket bullets. For starters, it's becuase the FMJ bullets have an open base while the OTM bullets have a much more uniform closed base. |
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Nice topic title. Please use thread titles that give some indication what the thread is about. Nobody forced you to click on this thread. Here's a helpful suggestion. Add me to your "ignore list." That way you'll never be troubled by any of my posts again. |
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Nice topic title. Please use thread titles that give some indication what the thread is about. Nobody forced you to click on this thread. Here's a helpful suggestion. Add me to your "ignore list." That way you'll never be troubled by any of my posts again. How about you follow the rules instead? |
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Nice topic title. Please use thread titles that give some indication what the thread is about. Nobody forced you to click on this thread. Here's a helpful suggestion. Add me to your "ignore list." That way you'll never be troubled by any of my posts again. I tried that, but because you started the tread, it still comes up. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. 
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Nice topic title. Please use thread titles that give some indication what the thread is about. Nobody forced you to click on this thread. Here's a helpful suggestion. Add me to your "ignore list." That way you'll never be troubled by any of my posts again. How about you follow the rules instead? Some folks do not have to follow the rules. This is a fact around here and further re-inforced when moderators who have "edited" others posts for the exact same offense jovially add to the thread. Aside from this, good thread though. |
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Some folks do not have to follow the rules. Wrong. Everyone is obligated to follow the rules. If you or anybody else doesn't like it, find another website without conduct guidelines. This one isn't changing and no one gets special treatment. Ignore the rules and warnings at your own peril. |
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