Originally Posted By ffemt596:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hRZ9_oiNPA

ARCFire V2!

Originally Posted By ffemt596:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hRZ9_oiNPA

ARCFire V2!

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

Incredible! I cannot wait to get my hands on one of these. It's a real improvement to what was already the best FRT on the market!

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

The ability to use a Geissele trigger puts it in the top tier for me. Spraying bullets at garbage is fun, and I do it a lot, but I want my guns to be rifles first, bullet sprayers second. I'm a big time trigger snob. I also like that it's essentially two tiered; you can get a decent mil spec trigger pull for 250 bucks, and then later upgrade to a G$ when funds allow. It's been drop in functional in multiple of my builds, in multiple calibers. Reports on its durability are tremendous. It does not bump your trigger finger in semi mode.

All of these factors are what set it above the crowd, and I love the rest of the crowd too. But this is the trigger in my favorite guns. I've had 3 Rare Breeds. I gave one away for Christmas, and the other two are sitting in guns I rarely shoot. I have two Partisans, basically the same design. The first run selectors suck. One I haven't installed yet. One is working fine in my IAR gun. I cancelled my order for the third after a month of waiting. The Atrius selektors are nice with a Rave 140 trigger. That's probably my second favorite FRT setup. But with mil spec triggers, they can need grinding on the triggers to get them running and tuned. The Cornfires are a step up from the Atrius, but they're not necessarily drop in with Geissele triggers. I'm also just a little leery about the durability of the Atrius/Cornfire skinny lever. Arizona Regulators function great most of the time, but they're somewhat sensitive to your gun being in spec, and the trigger pull sucks.

The ARC-Fire is just the smoothest, most refined, most upgradeable FRT on the market today; and today it got even better.

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

The ability to use a Geissele trigger puts it in the top tier for me. Spraying bullets at garbage is fun, and I do it a lot, but I want my guns to be rifles first, bullet sprayers second. I'm a big time trigger snob. I also like that it's essentially two tiered; you can get a decent mil spec trigger pull for 250 bucks, and then later upgrade to a G$ when funds allow. It's been drop in functional in multiple of my builds, in multiple calibers. Reports on its durability are tremendous. It does not bump your trigger finger in semi mode.

All of these factors are what set it above the crowd, and I love the rest of the crowd too. But this is the trigger in my favorite guns. I've had 3 Rare Breeds. I gave one away for Christmas, and the other two are sitting in guns I rarely shoot. I have two Partisans, basically the same design. The first run selectors suck. One I haven't installed yet. One is working fine in my IAR gun. I cancelled my order for the third after a month of waiting. The Atrius selektors are nice with a Rave 140 trigger. That's probably my second favorite FRT setup. But with mil spec triggers, they can need grinding on the triggers to get them running and tuned. The Cornfires are a step up from the Atrius, but they're not necessarily drop in with Geissele triggers. I'm also just a little leery about the durability of the Atrius/Cornfire skinny lever. Arizona Regulators function great most of the time, but they're somewhat sensitive to your gun being in spec, and the trigger pull sucks.

The ARC-Fire is just the smoothest, most refined, most upgradeable FRT on the market today; and today it got even better.

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
It’s also possible to cut your own Geissele trigger. I have not done this.

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
It’s also possible to cut your own Geissele trigger. I have not done this.

Originally Posted By Valnir:
So is the v1 going to be discontinued? Ive heard different things, but I like the 90 180 over the 45 90 style and didnt want to rush to get another right now.

Originally Posted By HKH:

It’s pretty simple

I did 3 in about five minutes.

Originally Posted By bluedxj:

Is there instructions on how to do it?

Originally Posted By s3igu2:


The V2 will have options for 45 90 AMBI, 45 180 AMBI, 90 180 AMBI and 90 180 NON AMBI all at launch. So you can still get 90 180 but we had to do updates to the other parts so that they work with 45 90 and instead of having 2 versions we will just have 1 ARC version that you can swap parts around to get the config you want. We tried to make the V1 upgradable to a V2 but unfortunately the changes needed for the 45 90 would have required all the parts to be replaced anyways. That said if you don't want a 45 90 or 45 180 and already have a V1 with mil spec style levers then there isn't a reason for you to upgrade to V2 if you only ever plan to use 90 180.

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

The ability to use a Geissele trigger puts it in the top tier for me. Spraying bullets at garbage is fun, and I do it a lot, but I want my guns to be rifles first, bullet sprayers second. I'm a big time trigger snob. I also like that it's essentially two tiered; you can get a decent mil spec trigger pull for 250 bucks, and then later upgrade to a G$ when funds allow. It's been drop in functional in multiple of my builds, in multiple calibers. Reports on its durability are tremendous. It does not bump your trigger finger in semi mode.

All of these factors are what set it above the crowd, and I love the rest of the crowd too. But this is the trigger in my favorite guns. I've had 3 Rare Breeds. I gave one away for Christmas, and the other two are sitting in guns I rarely shoot. I have two Partisans, basically the same design. The first run selectors suck. One I haven't installed yet. One is working fine in my IAR gun. I cancelled my order for the third after a month of waiting. The Atrius selektors are nice with a Rave 140 trigger. That's probably my second favorite FRT setup. But with mil spec triggers, they can need grinding on the triggers to get them running and tuned. The Cornfires are a step up from the Atrius, but they're not necessarily drop in with Geissele triggers. I'm also just a little leery about the durability of the Atrius/Cornfire skinny lever. Arizona Regulators function great most of the time, but they're somewhat sensitive to your gun being in spec, and the trigger pull sucks.

The ARC-Fire is just the smoothest, most refined, most upgradeable FRT on the market today; and today it got even better.

Originally Posted By Jeeps-And-Guns:


@s3igu2
You seem to be very knowledgeable on these.
Do you have any idea why swapping to the milspec style safety levers would take a 100% working arc-fire and make it now unreliable, unable to make it through a whole mag without a dead trigger with a live round in the chamber.
I installed the new levers and did nothing else, absolutely nothing else has changed. I did not disassemble anything, just swapped out the levers.
I know the right side lever will have no effect, but the left side does have some control to the system.
I have two of these that are now unreliable after swapping to these selectors.
Both have G$ triggers cut by ASD.

I am going to reinstall the selector that came with it and see if it goes back to being functional.
However I am not sure if I will be able to test it this weekend. The winter apocalypse is coming to north Alabama this weekend.

Originally Posted By blwngazkit:

Given you have to modify a G$ trigger for the Atrius, Cornfire, AND AS Designs, none of them are 100% drop-in to function...
Hell, the current iteration of the Cornfire claims to function with the G$ trigger and little to no mod (though several people seem to need to polish/stone the rear of the trigger).

I hear you on the lever being a possible weak point but I think with proper material selection that can be a non-issue.  I'm more concerned with the spring in the design keeping the levers in place!

If AS Design can fix things to work without needing a cut trigger and to function with many of the cassette style triggers, they'd be the go-to for nearly everyone.


Otherwise Partisan's LAT will likely take most of the market for those who don't need/want milspec style triggers.

Originally Posted By blwngazkit:

Given you have to modify a G$ trigger for the Atrius, Cornfire, AND AS Designs, none of them are 100% drop-in to function...
Hell, the current iteration of the Cornfire claims to function with the G$ trigger and little to no mod (though several people seem to need to polish/stone the rear of the trigger).

I hear you on the lever being a possible weak point but I think with proper material selection that can be a non-issue.  I'm more concerned with the spring in the design keeping the levers in place!

If AS Design can fix things to work without needing a cut trigger and to function with many of the cassette style triggers, they'd be the go-to for nearly everyone.


Otherwise Partisan's LAT will likely take most of the market for those who don't need/want milspec style triggers.

Originally Posted By s3igu2:


When you function check the gun with the new levers in the 3rd position do you feel the trigger begin to reset at the point where the bolt face is lined up with the half way point in the ejection port or is it resetting further back for you?

Originally Posted By s3igu2:


the ARC has been drop in for most people when they use the provided trigger, you shouldn't need to modify anything and in 99% of cases, at most you will need to swap buffers just like on every other FRT. The ARC could have worked with uncut triggers but as i have said here before that version of arc wouldn't survive in platforms like the MPX or SCAR the durability simply isn't there on selector style FRTs that don't cut the trigger and it doesn't make any sense to essentially cut the lifespan of arc parts in half so people can drop it into a lower slightly faster. ASD isn't trying to take the entire FRT market by focusing on easy install or drop in as the primary selling point like everyone else, the primary goal was to make the best possible FRT we can make and i think we have.

Originally Posted By blwngazkit:
@s3igu2

What makes the cut trigger cam interface more robust & reliable?  Does it result in a larger camping surface?

Originally Posted By Jeeps-And-Guns:


Just checked both rifles.
I can feel it start to push my finger almost exactly when the front of the bolt face is even with the mid point of the ejection port, and it is fully reset maybe another 1/4in or a tiny bit more rear travel. Both rifles were pretty much identical in this.

The rifles are also completely different builds.
One is a older DPMS 20 inch A2 style rifle. Standard fixed front sight base, rifle length stock/buffer tube, standard rifle buffer, tubbs flat wire buffer spring. Toolcraft FA BCG. It has a G2S trigger cut by ASD.
The other rifle is built on a spikes upper and lower. 16in mid length gas barrel, superlative arms piston kit, carbine buffer tube, H3 buffer, tubbs flat wire spring, SSA-E cut by ASD.

Originally Posted By BOT76395:
if i had to find 1 complaint it would be that i wish the the screw was flush with the selector but honestly i can fix that myself.

Originally Posted By s3igu2:


That is very strange, would you say it feels like its working correctly in function checks like timing and reset feel wise? Normally if its a reset related issue it would start resetting way further back then the mid point. Also is this issue happening in both rifles after the selector swap or just one?

Originally Posted By tortilla-flats:
A lot of discussion on cutting a G trigger for fitment.

What about the standard AR trigger? Do the ALG QMS/ACT triggers require modifications?

Originally Posted By Jeeps-And-Guns:



I'm going to put the old selectors back on the 20in rifle and retest and see if it goes back to running great.
If it does, then I know it is a selector issue, but if it still continues to have issues, then I will need to dig into diagnosing the rifle.
However it does not look like the weather is going to work with me this weekend......

Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

Yes, the G$ needs to be modified, but you can buy a modified one right from the guys who make the ARC-Fire. The Cornfire is nice, but unpredictable, and people don't like taking Dremels to their 200 dollar triggers. I don't hate the Cornfire, far from it, but they slightly fumbled the MARC introduction by over promising. They initially claimed it would drop in with Larue MBT 2 stage triggers, as well as some Geisseles.

We'll see about the LAT. The Disruptor rollout was a bit of a cluster. I can't imagine the LAT will be cheaper than the Disruptor, whose MSRP is 300 bucks. And all that is assuming that the LAT's trigger pull is as good as one of the best semi auto triggers on the market... what if it's not? For the ARC-Fire, you essentially outsource the trigger pull quality to the best subcontractor on the planet, who can focus single-mindedly on that quality control. Can Partisan, a brand new company, consistently produce a trigger pull equal to a shop that's been in the business for years? Maybe. They had a non gun guy slip a dumb selector design into their first run of Disruptors.

Originally Posted By chuck1:I couldn't get my arc fire to run with my geissele. Might need some tuning or maybe I overcut the radius? Not sure. I did swap another unmodified G trigger into the lower and tossed the atrius in with the arc fire lever block and it worked great yesterday.  

I'm going to have a welder buddy build up the corner on the one G trigger and give it another try because I have 2 arc fire ambi set ups I want to get working.

Originally Posted By blwngazkit:
@chuck1
Since you have both, what are your thoughts on the durability of each?

Originally Posted By OnyxSkyDV:
Anyone have a link to the STL files for the Leber V2 / MP5 lower that will work with the Arc-Fire?  I can't find any with the right cutout, and would rather not modify the model if I can help it.

Thanks!

Originally Posted By OnyxSkyDV:
Anyone have a link to the STL files for the Leber V2 / MP5 lower that will work with the Arc-Fire?  I can't find any with the right cutout, and would rather not modify the model if I can help it.

Thanks!

Originally Posted By Shane733:


How would one go about making them flush? I love the mil-spec levers and want some but them two big allen screws just throw me off.

Originally Posted By s3igu2:


That is very strange, would you say it feels like its working correctly in function checks like timing and reset feel wise? Normally if its a reset related issue it would start resetting way further back then the mid point. Also is this issue happening in both rifles after the selector swap or just one?

Originally Posted By viator:
I have ordered one ARC-Fire v1 to try. If it works as anticipated, I will purchase at least 4 more of them immediately, and several more later. I'll probably end up with 10 total ARC-Fires, most of them v2s.

I learned my lesson with the Partisan Disruptor Triggers. We were assured: It's going be the best trigger ever with a good pull! And the best rollout ever! Plenty of triggers right away! No one is going to have to wait!

So, I bought 4 of them within minutes of the order links dropping on 12-15-25 just after midnight. I had to have been within the very first of the orders, even though the Battlehawk Armory site was so crappy that it kept losing my inputed info. It took me probably 15 or 20 minutes to fight through the site until my order was accepted, around, I believe 12:25 a.m. or so. My order confirmation email was received at 2:50 a.m. on 12-15.

Now, I must admit that Battlehawk Armory shipped quickly. I received my 4 triggers on 12-20-25. That was good. But the good ended then. All four of my triggers have defective, unsafe, safety selectors. They will not remain in my selected position. Simply lifting my weapons across my chest to my shoulder from a front slung position is sufficient to move the selector. I cannot trust it to remain in safe. I cannot trust it to remain in fire. Given this danger, I have not fired a single round from any of my AR15s with the Disruptor trigger.

A month has passed since Partisan Triggers realized their production error. I still have no new selectors. It appears as if faulty selectors are the rule rather than the exception in the 1st generation. We are told that a person changed the specs on the selector unbeknownst to the principals in the company. That raises the question of quality control.

Was Partisan's attitude: "Quality control? We don't need no stinking quality control." If a single selector had been checked, it is likely that the selector error would have been caught. They are that bad. And we all know that an appropriate, larger, sample size would definitely have caught their error. That would have held up distribution, pushing it back yet again, but we would likely have received triggers that worked. I would have considered that a good outcome.

Because I want to fire my weapons and do not trust the Disruptors, I am removing them and replacing them with other manufacturers offerings. The Disruptors are going on my shelf. I hope that ARC-Fire will fulfill the role that the Disruptor did not. If so, I'll be probably be buying a number of the ARC-Fire v2 rather than the Partisan LMTs as I had planned.

Whatever the case, having been burned with the Disruptor rollout, I will not jump on the Partisan LMT rollout. If it proves to be a good trigger after time, I'll probably buy some, but not the dozen that I had planned. I only need so many FRTs. When I have enough FRTs for my hosts, I'll stop buying. If I have enough FRTs already when the LMT is dropped, then I won't buy any, except maybe a couple to shelve for later builds.

I know that Ben graciously volunteered to ensure that we get new workable selectors. But, he is injured and unable to fulfill that role in a timely manner. In my opinion, the duty to provide new selectors now returns to Partisan Triggers.

I am really upset more with myself than with Partisan Triggers. I have long operated under the principle that I never immediately buy the 1st generation of anything, be it bulldozers, dump trucks, excavators, cars, or, even triggers. I have seen that products often have poorly executed designs - or poor designs - that are corrected after a start. I broke my own rule and must now pay the penalty, which I am. Once burned and all that....

Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:

I have a V1 with a Geissele G2S and it’s absolutely amazing, the 90/180 doesn’t bother me. I guess I’ll stick to V1 for now. But the V2 would be cool for my A1 clone.