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9/11/2026 8:14:12 AM EDT
This is a 20-inch barrel rifle (HBAR, apparently) that is marketed as a DMR-type weapon. Anyone know if it has seen much sales success?

https://emtan.co.il/products/mz-4-20/
9/11/2026 8:40:04 AM EDT
[#1]
What staggering levels of innovation...
9/11/2026 8:40:30 AM EDT
[#2]
First time hearing of the company. It doesn’t appear to be anything special though.
9/11/2026 9:35:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ZastavaGuy:
What staggering levels of innovation...
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Outside the US can be challenging to get AR, parts and support.

While this specific rifle may not be as innovative as other products.. it’s good to see companies around the world trying to fill the gap.

Here in EU American made AR can be super expensive.. 3-4k for a DD is insane.. some brands are not even available.
9/11/2026 9:48:58 AM EDT
[#4]
It looks like a generic AR with copies of other companies' parts, just like the Glock clone they also sell.
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9/11/2026 10:02:15 AM EDT
[#5]
So a Heavy bbl A5ish copy?
Taxation without representation
9/11/2026 10:22:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: j3_][Edited] [#6]
Some BCG's that sold at a low price a while back were listed as coming from them. The one I got seemed well made. Key was sealed and I doubt the screws on the key would have ever backed out. The screws were difficult to remove and appeared to be a slight interference fit with the carrier thread. Still listed as sold out on AIM's website when I looked.
9/11/2026 12:19:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Looks like Israel is helping Thailand with if's manufacturing efforts:

https://www.janes.com/defence-intelligence-insights/defence-news/defence/dti-delivers-556x45-mm-carbines-to-the-thai-military
9/11/2026 4:17:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ZastavaGuy:
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So? I'm sure they may be trying to sell a dependable, established platform to countries who may not need the latest and greatest. How much innovation are you seeing in AKs that are flooding some third-world country markets?

As I remember the original SA80 was thought to be innovative. Now, what kind of rifle is being used by the SAS and other elite Brit units?
"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."

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9/12/2026 2:32:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j3_:
Some BCG's that sold at a low price a while back were listed as coming from them. The one I got seemed well made. Key was sealed and I doubt the screws on the key would have ever backed out. The screws were difficult to remove and appeared to be a slight interference fit with the carrier thread. Still listed as sold out on AIM's website when I looked.
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Yup, I got 3 of ‘em and should have gotten more…
"Oh, bother," said Pooh, as he pulled the pin on another grenade...
9/12/2026 10:38:17 PM EDT
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Saw a ton of Emtans there over the summer. They're basically milspec and priced very well, hence Emtan's rapid rise through IDF procurement. I hardly saw anything from IWI.

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