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9/30/2018 10:57:02 PM EDT
I was tinkering around with updating my old Bushmaster XM15-E2S today (purchased right after the AWB sunset) and noticed that the pistol grip has an F stamped on the inside:

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My understanding is that this is how FN’s grips are marked - I have one I purchased from SAW, and I believe it looks like that but can’t find it at the moment. I’ve never heard of Bushmaster using any FN parts, but I don’t really know much about where theirs came from. I’m guessing when it comes to pistol grips, manufacturers probably get them from a number of sources, but I thought this was interesting, if that’s what the marking actually means. If it’s actually an FN grip, I’ll stash it for a future clone project.

As far as the BM parts in general, they always seemed a little substandard to me. I replaced the “mushy” selector with an extra Colt part, and now it snaps into position crisply. Also swapped out the original FCG for a spare BCM set and installed a BCM QD end plate, RE, and castle nut. The bolt and magazine releases seem fine, so I’ll leave them as is. The pistol grip and trigger guard will be replaced with BCM parts. I actually had one of the old metal Magpul trigger guards on it.
9/30/2018 11:01:51 PM EDT
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Yours is marked with a 2 and F.

All of my Colt grips are marked with F then a 1, 2, or 3, etc.
My KAC is marked 1 then F.

I'm thinking it is a USGI contractor marking system for grips, though I cannot find much concrete info on it.

Eta: newer Colt grips are showing up too, I have a couple marked F/4, these have serrations for the star washer molded into the grip cavity.
9/30/2018 11:24:18 PM EDT
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Aha, interesting, thanks - I didn’t think about the 2 and the F going together. I’m guessing when I find my FN grip, it will just have an F. I have a 6920 with F2 and Colt LPKs with F1 and F2, FWIW. Thanks for the reply.
9/30/2018 11:30:27 PM EDT
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Aha, interesting, thanks - I didn’t think about the 2 and the F going together. I’m guessing when I find my FN grip, it will just have an F. I have a 6920 with F2 and Colt LPKs with F1 and F2, FWIW. Thanks for the reply.
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Curious as to what you find on your FN grip. Update if you will?
9/30/2018 11:43:30 PM EDT
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Yours is marked with a 2 and F.

All of my Colt grips are marked with F then a 1, 2, or 3, etc.
My KAC is marked 1 then F.

I'm thinking it is a USGI contractor marking system for grips, though I cannot find much concrete info on it.

Eta: newer Colt grips are showing up too, I have a couple marked F/4, these have serrations for the star washer molded into the grip cavity.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20180930-220429-688942.png
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I’ve seen a few comments regarding newer Colt grips, some seem to think they’re a bit more plasticity. Kind of like the plasticky feeling of P&S vert grips vs. the much more robust KAC.

Have you noticed any of those changes, Tig?
10/1/2018 6:25:03 AM EDT
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I’ve seen a few comments regarding newer Colt grips, some seem to think they’re a bit more plasticity. Kind of like the plasticky feeling of P&S vert grips vs. the much more robust KAC.

Have you noticed any of those changes, Tig?
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Yes.  I've come across both the dull, powder gray and shiny Colt grips lately. Both with the serrations inside the well for the star washer. The shiny black have that crappy plastic feel to them.  Dimensions appear the same, although I have not actually measured.

I am guessing here, but my thinking is that it may have something to do with the lowers/guns that were put out by Bold Ideas??
10/1/2018 12:33:58 PM EDT
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Tig,

Are you sure that the serrations you are seeing inside the newer Colt grips aren't from them having been installed once before? The lock washer always leaves it's marks.
10/1/2018 1:28:10 PM EDT
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Tig,

Are you sure that the serrations you are seeing inside the newer Colt grips aren't from them having been installed once before? The lock washer always leaves it's marks.
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Yes. If you compare the OP's pic with mine, the pic in the OP is what most look like, with some smooth also, no raised "nubs" if you will.

These newer type have the pattern molded into the grip, serrations are at an angle and concave . A little hard maybe to see in my pic. I have read that some have sourced from CDNN, who bought out Bold Ideas (Colt Competition) excess inventory. I have no real proof though.

The last 2 Colt lowers that I bought from Brownells do not have the serrations molded in.
11/21/2018 8:31:49 PM EDT
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Curious as to what you find on your FN grip. Update if you will?
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I finally dug up the FN grip. Sorry that took so long. Here’s a look at the inside:

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I’ll probably order a second one just in case I want to build an FN M4A1 clone some day, but SAW’s not cheap!
11/21/2018 9:35:42 PM EDT
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I finally dug up the FN grip. Sorry that took so long. Here’s a look at the inside:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/60E3134A-0D68-4B74-9F01-AA359F0F0EF0_jpeg-746646.JPG

I’ll probably order a second one just in case I want to build an FN M4A1 clone some day, but SAW’s not cheap!
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Curious as to what you find on your FN grip. Update if you will?
I finally dug up the FN grip. Sorry that took so long. Here’s a look at the inside:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/60E3134A-0D68-4B74-9F01-AA359F0F0EF0_jpeg-746646.JPG

I’ll probably order a second one just in case I want to build an FN M4A1 clone some day, but SAW’s not cheap!
Nice. Thanks for the update.
11/21/2018 9:42:37 PM EDT
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I found this one at a show last week.

11/21/2018 9:59:30 PM EDT
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I found this one at a show last week.

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That looks like the Colt grips that CDNN was selling  with the molded in serrations.
11/22/2018 10:42:37 AM EDT
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The Colt grips that Brownells has are the good chalky looking ones and quite a bit cheaper than Elmore's.
11/24/2018 11:58:05 AM EDT
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Now I am really confused.

My new plan is to just use the best looking grips that I have.
No one will know the difference except for me.

Thanks for the information.
I will keep watching.

Ron
11/24/2018 12:06:41 PM EDT
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The Colt grips that Brownells has are the good chalky looking ones and quite a bit cheaper than Elmore's.
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I ordered from SAW specifically to get the FN grip for an M16A4 clone, with the caveat that I know the manufacturers often source parts from the same place. However, based on some of the other markings shown in this thread, I’m not sure I can definitively tell an FN grip from a Colt.
11/24/2018 12:16:29 PM EDT
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Just saw this in the EE.
CAGE 3L549: O K TOOL & DIE CO INC

Obviously a contract grip, unsure of who they were supplied to. Reportedly early 2000.



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