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Posted: 8/25/2026 1:07:49 AM EDT
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This stuff is hard to find. Anybody have a source? Anybody in the EE? The Barnes version is pretty available but looking for the Federal LE version. |
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Originally Posted By Boisestatefan: Is the LE version any different than the .mil version? I have a little over a thousand rounds of the .mil and that stuff is terrific. Browntip runs roughly 2550fps from my 11.5 guns. It is sealed neck and primer with UV detectible sealant. It uses standard primers and temp stable powder. LE556TSX runs 2625fps out of my 11.5 guns. It is sealed neck and primer with UV detectible sealant. The primers are Federal's new "Catalyst" lead-free primers which are also NOT hydrophilic like previous DDNP containing primers, and should not have a shelf or product life less than lead styphnate. They seem slightly softer than mil-spec primers. I get roughly 1.75moa groups for 10 shots from either loading. Barnes VorTx strikes a medium balance of 2600fps at 10ft from my 11.5 guns. It is sealed at the primer but not case neck. Accuracy and POA/POI are the same as Browntip. LE556TSX has about a 0.1 MRAD shift from those. This is a 30 round group using LE556TSX, as fired from my KAC KS3 11.5 w/CRS3 suppressor, bagged from a bench, using my Nightforce NX8 1-8 FC-Mil Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy: You rock - been to Bone Frog many times, didn’t know I was missing hidden items. Anyways, placed an order of probably many. They were OOS until literally yesterday, but yes, they have hidden items and membership is worth it aside from that, even. Really want to cry? Go look at "LE556TSX" in the search bar on Target Sports. No they don't have any, but them prices! |
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Mine arrived. My kac ks3s like it. Here is a 30 round group from one, and a 10 round group from another. Attached File Attached File Avg velocity is 2541fps through one ks3 with crs3, and 2527 through my other ks3 with crs3. 10ft. |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy: Interesting. I think somebody should give this Norma stuff a go with some comparison testing. Tempted to buy a few boxes. @johndough any desire to give the Norma stuff a spin with some testing? Why not. I'll buy 40 rounds. I've tested every other 70gr TSX load on the planet, lol! |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy: Interesting. I think somebody should give this Norma stuff a go with some comparison testing. Tempted to buy a few boxes. @johndough any desire to give the Norma stuff a spin with some testing? ![]() Norma MLE 5.56 70gr TSX |
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Wow @johndough ! THANK YOU for testing the Norma stuff. You saved me a bunch of $$$. Might as well shoulda called it 223 70gr TSX. That is a significant velocity difference. Bummer - I love your buildup in the video. This might be really great…and…. Nope. |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy: Wow @johndough ! THANK YOU for testing the Norma stuff. You saved me a bunch of $$$. Might as well shoulda called it 223 70gr TSX. That is a significant velocity difference. Bummer - I love your buildup in the video. This might be really great…and…. Nope. Accuracy was typical of this weapon system and 70gr TSX. You're very welcome! ![]() Normal MLE 5.56 70gr TSX Precision Evaluation |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy: Any thoughts on the POI diff at 100yds vs full power LE/Barnes? It will vary gun to gun, but in mine its negligible. Here is Badlands at mid 2600s Same zero. Same poa ![]() Badlands NAS3 70gr 5.56 TSX---Precision at 100 yards |
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier: I think I will stick with the 75gr gold dot Its a good round. They'll have the 5.56 version out later this year/earlier next. It will be sealed at both ends and use brass case. I still like le556tsx, personally for the high BC and low expansion threshold. Out of an 11.5, it's a legitimate 300 yard performer regarding expansion, although personally I'd like to keep 5.56 within 200 yards. |
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I emailed Norma about the claimed pressure and velocity of this ammo. To charge premium price for this ammo and its almost 500fps slower is an absolute lie by their marketing. I was ready to buy some of this ammo, but I will not pay money to a company that out right lies. |
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Originally Posted By 1-75Ranger: I emailed Norma about the claimed pressure and velocity of this ammo. To charge premium price for this ammo and its almost 500fps slower is an absolute lie by their marketing. I was ready to buy some of this ammo, but I will not pay money to a company that out right lies. We should all do this. Pretty fraudulent claims. |
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