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Posted: 10/23/2024 12:18:51 PM EDT
posted in the appraisal thread but no reply as of yet...
Need some help identifying barrel manufacturer and upper receiver manufacturer. Curious what it might be worth? Not sure of the manufacturer of this upper receiver & barrel. It was bought new from a dealer in 1999. Came attached to a PWA lower receiver. Perhaps its a Wilson barrel? Round count is under 2,000. Slight rust on exposed barrel near muzzle brake. 20" heavy barrel 1/8 twist FSB is marked: D98 (R1) 2 (the R1 is actually in a circle) barrel is marked under handguards with: SS W 1/8 No markings on upper.      
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2024 2:47:23 PM EDT
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Kinda looks like something RRA might have done back in the ban days. At least the dowel pins in the FSB indicate RRA to me.
No idea on value. |
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Posted: 10/23/2024 6:48:26 PM EDT
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Old Codes:
Three characters side by side over the chamber. First Character: N or W...N for NATO chamber or W for Wylde Second Character: 8 or 9...8 for 1:8 twist and 9 for 1:9 twist. Third Character: A, S, or C...A for moly (chrome -moly Alloy), S for Stainless, and C for Chrome-lined alloy. https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/RRA-barrel-code-list-/38-149779/ |
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Posted: 10/23/2024 7:04:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff: Kinda looks like something RRA might have done back in the ban days. At least the dowel pins in the FSB indicate RRA to me. No idea on value. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff: Kinda looks like something RRA might have done back in the ban days. At least the dowel pins in the FSB indicate RRA to me. No idea on value. Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Old Codes: Three characters side by side over the chamber. First Character: N or W...N for NATO chamber or W for Wylde Second Character: 8 or 9...8 for 1:8 twist and 9 for 1:9 twist. Third Character: A, S, or C...A for moly (chrome -moly Alloy), S for Stainless, and C for Chrome-lined alloy. https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/RRA-barrel-code-list-/38-149779/ Thank you both for the info!! Two posts both pointing to RRA components. Mine has what appears the same information, but different order: SS W 1/8 Probably safe to say it's an "assumed" RRA complete upper? |
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Posted: 10/23/2024 7:15:47 PM EDT
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Did Wylde chambers exist in 1999?
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Posted: 10/23/2024 7:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CA_TX-Cop: Did Wylde chambers exist in 1999? Developed in the '50s. 
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Posted: 10/23/2024 9:37:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DD1801: Thank you both for the info!! Two posts both pointing to RRA components. Mine has what appears the same information, but different order: SS W 1/8 Probably safe to say it's an "assumed" RRA complete upper? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DD1801: Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Kinda looks like something RRA might have done back in the ban days. At least the dowel pins in the FSB indicate RRA to me. No idea on value. Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Old Codes: Three characters side by side over the chamber. First Character: N or W...N for NATO chamber or W for Wylde Second Character: 8 or 9...8 for 1:8 twist and 9 for 1:9 twist. Third Character: A, S, or C...A for moly (chrome -moly Alloy), S for Stainless, and C for Chrome-lined alloy. https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/RRA-barrel-code-list-/38-149779/ Thank you both for the info!! Two posts both pointing to RRA components. Mine has what appears the same information, but different order: SS W 1/8 Probably safe to say it's an "assumed" RRA complete upper? RRA info indicates that markings would be "side by side" rather than oriented as yours are. It's possible I guess? Dowel pins at FSB are standard fare for RRA as Cliff pointed out. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2024 9:00:26 AM EDT
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Can't tell you who made it but similar stainless barrel uppers were very common in gun shows and Shotgun News during the '94 - '04 ban era.
After the ban died in '04, and with everyone going M4 crazy, you almost couldn't give such uppers away at gun shows. RCA |
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Posted: 10/24/2024 9:32:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: RRA info indicates that markings would be "side by side" rather than oriented as yours are. It's possible I guess? Dowel pins at FSB are standard fare for RRA as Cliff pointed out. Heh. Glossed over the "side by side". 
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Posted: 10/24/2024 9:44:56 AM EDT
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From what I recall from 30ish years ago, that stamping and location could be a Wilson Arms barrel. That comp was something that Armalite used quite a bit during the ban period, and a few other parts suppliers used that one as well. We used either the one that looked like an A-2 but the slots didn't go all the way through, the two or three large circle ports at the 3 & 9 o'clock and 9 or 12 small holes on the top, the Carlson comp primarily on our production kits and uppers.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/25/2024 4:39:20 PM EDT
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That is an ArmaLite fixed muzzle brake used until the late 1990s. There should be a “weld” spot at six o’clock if it’s factory installed.
ETA link 1997 The shown catalog model has a plain muzzle. The W may denote Lothar Walther |
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Posted: 10/25/2024 10:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmegHead: That is an ArmaLite fixed muzzle brake used until the late 1990s. There should be a “weld” spot at six o’clock if it’s factory installed. ETA link 1997 The shown catalog model has a plain muzzle. The W may denote Lothar Walther Awesome info, thank you very much! Thanks for finding that page on the way back machine. |
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