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Posted: 5/27/2010 7:19:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 357sig:
Absolutely outstanding write up. Do you have any information regarding differences in terminal performance between the T1 and T2 bullet? An awesome post that broke down the information for me. Great job of putting the information in "my" terms........
I too was wondering about the terminal performance of the two. If you don't have the info handy could you kindly point me in the right direction? Again, thanks for all of you help. |
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Excellent review. The only thing I can say that wasn't perfect about it was that you didn't cite which edition of "The ABCs of Reloading" you reference. (I really like Dean Grinnell's 4th edition, myself).
It looks like the difference between the T1C and T2 bullets is very subtle-the ogive seems different, but I wouldn't know how to quantify the difference. The tip of the T2 is visibly more uniform than that of the T1 or T1C in your picture. Again, great work! |
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I know Molon will correct me if i'm wrong, but i think i remember reading that the T2 was designed for performance in soft targets while the T1 is a match paper-puncher that still performs well in a defensive situation.
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Originally Posted By TehLlama42:
Might as well create an autosticky function for anything Molon posts that's over 5 lines. I'll pretty much read any post Molon creates if I come across it. I don't search for them....that would be weird |
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Originally Posted By Eric802:
Originally Posted By GHPorter:
It looks like the difference between the T1C and T2 bullets is very subtle-the ogive seems different, but I wouldn't know how to quantify the difference. The tip of the T2 is visibly more uniform than that of the T1 or T1C in your picture. Originally Posted By quantim2:
I know Molon will correct me if i'm wrong, but i think i remember reading that the T2 was designed for performance in soft targets while the T1 is a match paper-puncher that still performs well in a defensive situation. T1 has a secant ogive and T2 has a tangent ogive. I can never keep straight which is which, but you can see the difference in this drawing: http://www.riflebarrels.com/images/figure4.gif The T2 ogive design was for improved feeding in rifles with M4 feedramps, I believe. I don't think it had anything to do with terminal performance. The highlighted section is correct, however I believe the T2 is still a seacant ogive. Some time ago, I asked Dave Emary (Chief Ballistician for Hornady) about the redesigned ogive on the T2 bullet. Here was his reply: “We made the ogive radius shorter, makes the ogive a little fatter, on the TAP load because testing showed it fed better in the M16/AR. The sharper pointed match bullet would occasionally hang up between the feed ramp cuts in the barrel sleeve on some guns.” Below the T2 is pictured on the left, next to a Sierra MatchKing (which has a tangent ogive.)
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Awesome thread as usual pal I just got back from buying 5 boxes 75gr. BTHP match and this is a rarity given I went to the place I normally get the T-2 TAP from, sadly they were sold out so I figured what the hell and lets give the match another honest go.....the only other time I put 100 or so on paper I was kinda dissappointed in respect to groups I get from the TAP t-2 and the bh 68gr.hp. through a SS SPR 18". |
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| It would be for a private homeowner, not a LE duty application, and Hornady has the same legal considerations that infest our country with absurd warnings on all sorts of products. Do they supply a "why" with that statement? I see same bullet, same velocities.............if it's reliable in my platform, and the terminal effect is the same, ? |
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