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2/20/2026 3:36:17 PM EDT
I have been working on this load for quite a while and finally got it sorted out.
The 130 grain Speer Varmint.   I tried several powders and finally settled on Lil Gun
with them seated at 2.05"

Initially I could not get 100% feeding reliability.  The last round would jam hard into the feedramp.  I toyed with this for a while and finally tried a metal duramag...poof..the problem vanished.  I ran about 75rds without a single feeding issue, tried a pmag and the problem returned so these are metal mag only but really accurate and should be excellent as an SD load.

Im using Shellshock NAS3 brass with these.


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2/20/2026 5:16:50 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd love to see those in gel.
2/20/2026 5:20:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
I'd love to see those in gel.
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Agreed! Looks like they ought to work!
2/20/2026 5:38:01 PM EDT
[#3]
I plan to test them next week in my meat target
2/20/2026 5:58:33 PM EDT
[#4]
What charge wait did you settle in on, and what's your velocity?
2/20/2026 6:21:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Looks really promising OP!

I haven't been shooting the 300 blk for long but I reload all of my ammo.

I'll have to give 'Lil Gun a try with those and similar bullets. So far all I've tried are 296 and CFEBlk.
2/20/2026 7:44:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Nice!
I was wondering when there would be more homebrew loads in NAS3 cases hitting the scenes.  I bet the 135gr Varminter could be nice as well in an NAS3 case.
2/20/2026 8:32:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wvfarrier][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By markfall:
What charge wait did you settle in on, and what's your velocity?
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19.5 grains of Lil Gun, CCI 450s, NAS3 brass.
Velocity was 2150+/-
2/20/2026 9:17:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Careful with Lilgun...

I used to load 158gr over Lilgun in .357 mag for use in carbines.  Excellent speeds ..but watch barrel heating.. it's incredibly hot burning.  A few rounds of these lilgun loads would leave my barrel insanely hot, given the few rounds fired.

Id be VERY concerned about barrel life if you rip a couple mags off quickly.  Not kidding.

Freedom Arms used to make very high end revolvers.  They specifically cautioned against use of lilgun because of excessive forcing cone and throat erosion.

No flames intended.   Just helping
2/20/2026 9:21:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier:


19.5 grains of Lil Gun, CCI 450s, NAS3 brass.
Velocity was 2150+/-
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What barrel?

I've got some of the Hornady 111gr monoflex I'm thinking of seeing how spicy I can get out of an 8" w/ those NAS3 cases
2/20/2026 9:23:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -Obsessed-][Edited] [#10]
Good luck with Lil'Gun. It burns notoriously hot. It melted the base of my copper bullets and deposited molten copper all over the bolt, carrier, gas tube, barrel, even the sides of the upper.

It was wild.
2/20/2026 10:22:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By frozenny:
Careful with Lilgun...

I used to load 158gr over Lilgun in .357 mag for use in carbines.  Excellent speeds ..but watch barrel heating.. it's incredibly hot burning.  A few rounds of these lilgun loads would leave my barrel insanely hot, given the few rounds fired.

Id be VERY concerned about barrel life if you rip a couple mags off quickly.  Not kidding.

Freedom Arms used to make very high end revolvers.  They specifically cautioned against use of lilgun because of excessive forcing cone and throat erosion.

No flames intended.   Just helping
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I have been using Lil Gun for nearly 20 years with thousands of rounds of 357, 45 colt +p, 44 mag and a lot of others.   Its never been an issue.
2/20/2026 10:23:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wvfarrier][Edited] [#12]
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual:


What barrel?

I've got some of the Hornady 111gr monoflex I'm thinking of seeing how spicy I can get out of an 8" w/ those NAS3 cases
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This is a 16" factory PWS Mk116.   I had them all the way up to 2233fps but the accuracy fell off and being varmin rounds I would imagine they would not hold together.
2/20/2026 10:28:59 PM EDT
[#13]
This was the 130gr Speer TNT at 100 yards after passing through a 1/4" piece of leather, a 1# bologna pack, 1/2" particle board and 3-1 gallon water jugs.
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