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Posted: 3/27/2020 3:41:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: yellowhammer1]
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eta:
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Posted: 3/27/2020 6:37:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: mechanicuss]
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Posted: 4/8/2020 9:40:39 AM EST
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I still need to cut off the fh to change out the slip ring, but I like it so far.
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Posted: 4/8/2020 11:25:07 AM EST
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Social distancing with these guys
 
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Posted: 4/8/2020 3:17:47 PM EST
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Quote Historyall are nice |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 4:09:38 PM EST
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Not a clone. But a fun gun.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 5:32:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hueto: I still need to cut off the fh to change out the slip ring, but I like it so far. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/139672/unnamed-1357026.jpg Why do you need to remove the flash suppressor to replace the delta ring? |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 9:21:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Hueto]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 86HMMWV: Why do you need to remove the flash suppressor to replace the delta ring? I assumed it went on from the front but now that I’m thinking about it... Looks like I know what I’m doing in the morning. |
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Posted: 4/9/2020 10:40:20 AM EST
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i took one of my favorite ar's out shooting last weekend
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Posted: 4/9/2020 10:46:31 AM EST
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Social Distancing with this pack of wild ones.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2020 10:09:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Crogers23]
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Would a Socom profile barrel be at all correct for an IDF “clone” on an A1 receiver?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2020 12:02:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: PHMDLJR]
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 My cobble job. IDF or USAF? Maybe, I don't know. Not that well versed. Franken gun for sure. Sling is original IDF gotten from ebay. 80% spud lower. 14.5 pinned barrel assy. from DSA. Fun to shoot. No hiccups. Handles great Kinda over did it with the weathering, I know, but what the hell, I'm happy with it. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. 
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Posted: 4/17/2020 12:29:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PHMDLJR: http://village.photos/images/user/52622750-f94f-47ac-9ec1-3b7fad6df381/resized_cae9ac7b-aee8-4c14-9f7b-d5365caaccc8.JPG My cobble job. IDF or USAF? Maybe, I don't know. Not that well versed. Franken gun for sure. Sling is original IDF gotten from ebay. 80% spud lower. 14.5 pinned barrel assy. from DSA. Fun to shoot. No hiccups. Handles great Kinda over did it with the weathering, I know, but what the hell, I'm happy with it. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. Battlefield pick up, I like it |
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ITA
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Posted: 4/17/2020 1:56:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Would a Socom profile barrel be at all correct for an IDF “clone” on an A1 receiver? Don’t think so but who cares. It’s KISS and the profile is hidden under the hg |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2020 2:13:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: Don’t think so but who cares. It’s KISS and the profile is hidden under the hg Same way I feel about it. I’m just asking out of curiosity. I don’t know the first thing about the IDF issued rifles, but wanting to “clone” the one below. Have a couple extra Rem Socom barrels, and have wanted to build something simple and cheap like this. Just trying to get an idea of what’s correct and not. It seems like there wasn’t really a standard. 
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Posted: 4/17/2020 2:15:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Same way I feel about it. I’m just asking out of curiosity. I don’t know the first thing about the IDF issued rifles, but wanting to “clone” the one below. Have a couple extra Rem Socom barrels, and have wanted to build something simple and cheap like this. Just trying to get an idea of what’s correct and not. It seems like there wasn’t really a standard. https://i.imgur.com/xdgMIzel.jpg that IS just about the perfect carbine to me |
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ITA
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Posted: 4/17/2020 3:21:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Same way I feel about it. I’m just asking out of curiosity. I don’t know the first thing about the IDF issued rifles, but wanting to “clone” the one below. Have a couple extra Rem Socom barrels, and have wanted to build something simple and cheap like this. Just trying to get an idea of what’s correct and not. It seems like there wasn’t really a standard. https://i.imgur.com/xdgMIzel.jpg IMHO the IDF clone-ish are perfect in the way you can improve small hidden details, still be almost clone correct and ending up with a fun carbine.. Like using the socom profile.. or installing the A2 rear sight in the A1 carry handle.. etc |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2020 3:32:43 PM EST
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Here are some of the IDF "clones" I've had my hands on,
 
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Posted: 4/29/2020 7:45:25 PM EST
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Posted: 4/30/2020 9:33:24 PM EST
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 3:46:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: dubagel]
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Nice x95 DMR. There really isn’t. The IDF basically kit bashes carbines together. They even cut down barrels to 12”-13”. I had a spare lower and c7 upper I found in the back of the safe along with spare stock. I ordered an 14.5” m4 upper barrel assembly with pinned extended a2 FH. I could have had John Thomas put on a shim and use the standard a2 FH but wasn’t that big a deal to me. Added a 6 hole carbine handguard, m21 with IDF triangle reticle on the forward over handguard mount on Mako big holiday sale and handguard covers. Had an IDF sling. So basically it’s a model 723 late model. C7 upper aka a2 upper with shell deflector and a1 sights, and m4 barrel.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 12:48:37 PM EST
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Almost finished. I have to figure out how to better age the lower, and waiting on the IDF sling, handguard band, sling adapters, and mag secure attachment.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 9:20:18 PM EST
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Looks great!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 9:26:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Armed_Philosopher]
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 10:21:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Armed_Philosopher: https://i.imgur.com/AGeqmJ1.jpg Nice. Where did you get the lower? That rollmark looks just like the M16A1 I carried in the ARNG over 30 years ago. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2020 12:38:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glynn863: Nice. Where did you get the lower? That rollmark looks just like the M16A1 I carried in the ARNG over 30 years ago. I have a friend with a laser. Worked up a graphic which he converted to a vector image and lasered it. It came out pretty well i think. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 12:46:51 AM EST
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I'm building an IDF-inspired M4. Is there a standard or common weapon light that the IDF uses?
Also, what's the typical BUIS? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2020 7:51:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCState85: I'm building an IDF-inspired M4. Is there a standard or common weapon light that the IDF uses? Also, what's the typical BUIS? I'm not sure about the light, but BUIS are built in with the carry handle and FSP. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 9:23:53 AM EST
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Anyone know where I can buy a 10.5" or 11.5" complete A1 upper? Thanks
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2020 9:42:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RuKuS: Anyone know where I can buy a 10.5" or 11.5" complete A1 upper? Thanks @RuKuS Here 11.5" unpinned option |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:44:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: NCState85]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I'm not sure about the light, but BUIS are built in with the carry handle and FSP. Was talking more about their flat top receivers, but thanks I've heard Emtan got a contract, but according to Samson's site, they also provided sights for the IDF. Here "These are production overruns for the backup iron sights (BUIS) Samson designed and manufactured for the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and have passed rigorous environmental and field testing. These sights differ slightly from Samson’s standard sight offerings, featuring a slotted mounting screw and a modified picatinny clamp. The A2-style dual aperture is mounted so the small aperture presents when the sight is deployed." |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2020 1:27:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCState85: Was talking more about their flat top receivers, but thanks I've heard Emtan got a contract, but according to Samson's site, they also provided sights for the IDF. Here "These are production overruns for the backup iron sights (BUIS) Samson designed and manufactured for the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and have passed rigorous environmental and field testing. These sights differ slightly from Samson’s standard sight offerings, featuring a slotted mounting screw and a modified picatinny clamp. The A2-style dual aperture is mounted so the small aperture presents when the sight is deployed." Learn something new every day! I wasn't aware of that. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 5:15:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCState85: I'm building an IDF-inspired M4. Is there a standard or common weapon light that the IDF uses? Also, what's the typical BUIS? It certainly depends on what era and how mixed of a pedigree of M4 you are looking to clone. Even then, accessories, to include Israeli manufactured or retailed kit of varying quality, appeared to be widely used. I have seen pics of ARMS #40 rear sights being used (ubiquitous and available throughout the modern era of IDF M4s) as well as plenty of pics of Surefire G2 lights being used. You could probably go for an ARMS BUIS of your choice, a classic Surefire G2 (with drop-in LED module for performance), and mount the light with a combination of CAA or similar Israeli FSB-mounted rails and light rings to finish it off. For most conscript, line troops of the IDF, tier one gear seems to not typically be the name of the game. As long as it's functional, if even a bit hokey from a post-OEF/OIF perspective, it's probably good to go for an IDF build. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 10:01:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjk1: It certainly depends on what era and how mixed of a pedigree of M4 you are looking to clone. Even then, accessories, to include Israeli manufactured or retailed kit of varying quality, appeared to be widely used. I have seen pics of ARMS #40 rear sights being used (ubiquitous and available throughout the modern era of IDF M4s) as well as plenty of pics of Surefire G2 lights being used. You could probably go for an ARMS BUIS of your choice, a classic Surefire G2 (with drop-in LED module for performance), and mount the light with a combination of CAA or similar Israeli FSB-mounted rails and light rings to finish it off. For most conscript, line troops of the IDF, tier one gear seems to not typically be the name of the game. As long as it's functional, if even a bit hokey from a post-OEF/OIF perspective, it's probably good to go for an IDF build. Thanks! Going back through the pics of IDF guns posted here, that certainly seems to hold true. My build is more going to be "inspired" than an absolute clone, but I like the wiggle room that the ad-hoc nature of their equipments seems to lend itself too. The base rifle I'm using is just a little Bushmaster M4A3. I'm likely going to chop the barrel down to 14.7", throw on either a CAR-15 stock or one of the FAB defense ones I've seen in the pictures, and I'm putting my Meprolight RDS on there with a Samson rear BUIS. For light, I have a Surefire G2X or an older Surefire M952V that I think I'll attach via a bayonet lug picatinny rail section, and other than that, I'll just throw on a couple of those IDF-style elastic covers. So yeah, more inspired than clone. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 11:06:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Willmar: More shots. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/68624/1F748562-D04C-4F81-983F-10C3F84141C8_jpeg-969759.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/68624/A4BDFC9D-74CF-4C68-B0EB-74AB183A027A_jpeg-969760.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/68624/61CCCF14-BA6F-4AC6-B0BA-1C98AF52718E_jpeg-969762.JPG I don't suppose there was ever any luck ID'ing these stocks? I just slid into the IDF's Twitter DM's to see if they could help, lol. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2020 11:23:18 PM EST
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Supergum makes the new IDF stocks
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:31:50 AM EST
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You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:41:16 PM EST
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https://supergum.com/defense/
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2020 2:47:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ck2020: https://supergum.com/defense/ Go to Supergum's website to the INDUSTRY heading and then scroll down to DEFENSE. It gives a picture but when you scroll over it, it does not highlight. Great picture. kwg |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2020 1:46:40 PM EST
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Finally complete :) I may continue to work on the artificial wear of the lower, but I’m pretty much satisfied with where it’s at.
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Posted: 6/4/2020 3:34:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Finally complete :) I may continue to work on the artificial wear of the lower, but I’m pretty much satisfied with where it’s at. https://i.imgur.com/14XBT1z.jpg nice |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 4:44:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Finally complete :) I may continue to work on the artificial wear of the lower, but I’m pretty much satisfied with where it’s at. https://i.imgur.com/14XBT1z.jpg That looks great. I'd hit the mag to match and leave the lower. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2020 4:52:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: That looks great. I'd hit the mag to match and leave the lower. Thanks! Love the way it turned out. I have a few old Colt and other USGI mags with plenty of wear. I’ve actually had a 20 rounder paired with it, but was trying out one of the IDF mag wraps/keepers, and forgot I had this one in until taken the pic. Decided against the mag wrap. Not sure how those can be considered a good idea. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2020 7:42:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: BrandonP]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Thanks! Love the way it turned out. I have a few old Colt and other USGI mags with plenty of wear. I’ve actually had a 20 rounder paired with it, but was trying out one of the IDF mag wraps/keepers, and forgot I had this one in until taken the pic. Decided against the mag wrap. Not sure how those can be considered a good idea. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Thanks! Love the way it turned out. I have a few old Colt and other USGI mags with plenty of wear. I’ve actually had a 20 rounder paired with it, but was trying out one of the IDF mag wraps/keepers, and forgot I had this one in until taken the pic. Decided against the mag wrap. Not sure how those can be considered a good idea. I think they're "supposed to prevent mags from rattling around in the pouch" but in reality you never were given enough of them to use them for that purpose...they're basically just morale items that get in the way imo. Originally Posted By GSDAK47: Here are some of the IDF "clones" I've had my hands on, https://i.imgur.com/sYCGGJql.jpg Michvei Alon? |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 9:36:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrandonP: I think they're "supposed to prevent mags from rattling around in the pouch" but in reality you never were given enough of them to use them for that purpose...they're basically just morale items that get in the way imo. Michvei Alon? Haha you know it, good ol mirve m16s. Unlike most other lone soldiers, I actually really had an awesome experience there. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2020 8:33:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrandonP: I think they're "supposed to prevent mags from rattling around in the pouch" but in reality you never were given enough of them to use them for that purpose...they're basically just morale items that get in the way imo. Michvei Alon? I’m taking about the mag wrap with the leash on it that Velcro’s to the handguards. I could just imagine being in a gun fight, dropping the mag to insert another but not having time to in-Velcro the da** thing, and so running around with an empty mag dangling from my rifle lol my guess was that they are for keeping up with the mag in most situations where you aren’t actually expecting hostilities. Like just patrolling (since they don’t go anywhere without the rifles) or training. Sort of like the trainer AK mags that have the loop and would be leashed to a vest. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 9:43:07 PM EST
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2020 12:01:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryWhere’d you get the buttpad? |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 12:26:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23: Where’d you get the buttpad? From my buddy @5pt56 |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2020 2:19:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: From my buddy @5pt56 AKA Mr. EE 
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