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7/19/2026 8:00:37 PM EDT
Hello everybody,

Is it legal to sell, private to private, out of state, short barreled complete uppers with flash hiders to California?

In my ad, I put, no sales to restricted states. Had a guy pay through a digital payment and he sent his address to my inbox. Saw his address was in California and refunded his payment.

He did not post in my ad.

He said private to private is legal and, "I can't force someone to be an American". Now if following the law is  considered not being an American, then I guess I am guilty.

I said I would, "eat crow" if he can show me where it is legal.

All I am interested in hearing is if it's legal to do so, not that it doesn't matter and who is going to know.
7/19/2026 8:41:50 PM EDT
[#1]
You may want to post this in the FFL forum: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/FFL-Discussions/44/

Or California Hometown.
7/19/2026 8:52:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Barrels (includes uppers) now have to ship to an FFL where the California subject can pick it up.
7/19/2026 9:44:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Good idea, thanks.
7/20/2026 8:43:47 AM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By Actiondiver:
Barrels (includes uppers) now have to ship to an FFL where the California subject can pick it up.
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Beginning January 1, 2027, per SB 704.

Tony

7/20/2026 8:55:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AeroE][Edited] [#5]
I'd reply, "An American travels out of state to buy banned items such as MEK or AR upper receiver assemblies."

Keep your powder dry, and watch your back trail.
7/20/2026 6:26:04 PM EDT
[#6]
Haha that's awesome and so passive aggressive!
7/20/2026 10:52:02 PM EDT
[#7]
How would CA state law apply to anyone not living in the state? Serious question,  seems like the liability is all on the receiver not the sender.

How is a reasonable person living out of state supposed to keep up with 49 states worth of legislation?
7/21/2026 1:00:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Barrels need to go to FFL.

All other parts are fine to ship direct.

So yeah, buyer should have known that barrel needs to go to FFL.

7/21/2026 1:12:26 AM EDT
[#9]
What are they going to do if you’re a private party send you a stern letter?  FCs bullshit.
7/21/2026 10:05:31 AM EDT
[#10]
I can see an established business get sued by California for shipping items since it's a public sale. But private party? how is that going to be regulated?
7/30/2026 1:05:29 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By ROMAD-556:
How would CA state law apply to anyone not living in the state? Serious question,  seems like the liability is all on the receiver not the sender.

How is a reasonable person living out of state supposed to keep up with 49 states worth of legislation?
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More importantly, why would any freedom-loving person give a fuck?  I wouldn't.

People who're pearl clutching and hand wringing over this bullshit are part of the problem.
7/30/2026 8:48:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: smoothy8500][Edited] [#12]
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola:


More importantly, why would any freedom-loving person give a fuck?  I wouldn't.

People who're pearl clutching and hand wringing over this bullshit are part of the problem.
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As a fellow Cali shooter: Thank you!

Seriously, the folks in NY, NJ, or whatever state - I've sold stuff-your state is like my state and has stupid rules, IDK.
8/15/2026 8:23:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola:


More importantly, why would any freedom-loving person give a fuck?  I wouldn't.

People who're pearl clutching and hand wringing over this bullshit are part of the problem.
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It’s all good until your rocket scientist customer gets arrested and they track the upper back to you. Then you’re likely to have some expensive legal troubles…over something you made like $30 on.
8/16/2026 12:25:22 PM EDT
[#14]
California is a state I could see going after an out of state private seller over this just to see what they can make stick, the government can afford to do that
8/16/2026 12:31:27 PM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By Actiondiver:
Barrels (includes uppers) now have to ship to an FFL where the California subject can pick it up.
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Holy Nanny State Batman!!!  

Bigger_Hammer
LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!!
8/22/2026 7:58:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eman3:
California is a state I could see going after an out of state private seller over this just to see what they can make stick, the government can afford to do that
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