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Link Posted: 1/24/2019 11:38:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: JLS81] [#1]
You guys might wish to purchase the MCTAR-22G2 as your free float option.

MCTAR-22G2-BLK



I am pretty sure that @Knife_Sniper has this on his A5 set up.
Link Posted: 1/24/2019 12:16:12 PM EST
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I actually have a BCM QRF with a titanium barrel nut from V7.

It weights a tenth of an oz more than plastic handguards with the titanium barrel nut.

In my case I built around a colt HBAR barrel so I needed a nice looking tube for the build that also cut some weight.

Ill post pictures when its more done.
Link Posted: 1/24/2019 12:24:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/24/2019 2:00:53 PM EST
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If anyone is looking, I posted a complete FN m16a4 upper in the EE.  Complete with the KAC rail.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 7:42:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/29/2019 4:14:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HD2006:
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Looks good.  Where did you get your UID decal?
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 7:06:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By USMC7382:

Looks good.  Where did you get your UID decal?
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This is the go to for UID tags...........Carolina Laser Works
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 8:08:30 AM EST
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thanks
Link Posted: 1/30/2019 5:07:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/4/2019 10:20:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JLS81:

@SoloDallas ping

Looks like a mixed bag of lowers being used to mate up with Colt and FN A4 upper assemblies.

What lower are you using in your A4 clone?
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Sorry for the late reply - got swamped in work.
That lower = NDS A2 lower, painted in "Colt gray" Norrells. Love it so much.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 2:11:03 AM EST
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The area I drive through every day is scattered with ANA/ANP/MOI troops carrying M16A4s. It looks weird to me, seeing those guys carrying our weapons...
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 6:06:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By doubleclaw:
The area I drive through every day is scattered with ANA/ANP/MOI troops carrying M16A4s. It looks weird to me, seeing those guys carrying our weapons...
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It's criminal that those weapons are being given freely to our "allies". Uncle Sam could easily break these down into parts kits and sell them back to the general public, but instead I see ISIS rolling around with them instead. We're lucky to see Garands and 1911's being sold back to the people. Lord only knows what will happen to those countless M9's when they're all replaced.



Yeah, I know they picked up a lot of them from routed Iraqi forces. But do you remember when the Obama administration "accidentally" dropped pallets of weapons onto ISIS positions? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 10:38:36 AM EST
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I had an extra lower that turned into this recently.

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Link Posted: 2/8/2019 7:40:02 AM EST
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NOS FN M16A4 uppers are back in stock at Ohio Ordinance Works
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 8:29:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Swanson2255:
NOS FN M16A4 uppers are back in stock at Ohio Ordinance Works
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Adding link for quick buy.

FN M16A4 Upper NOS
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 10:34:27 AM EST
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Is a colt or fn lower more correct? Would they both have the same serial number prefix on an issued rifle?
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:01:24 PM EST
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Just bought one of those FN surplus uppers to start my M16A4 clone build.

Anyone have any recommendations on correct/high quality A2 stocks?  I've been scouring the web and it seems like Colt is OOS everywhere and everything else out there seems to come with plastic trapdoors and spacers.  I see that Fulton Armory lists one with a metal trap door, but no idea who the supplier is.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:15:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LedDuck:
Just bought one of those FN surplus uppers to start my M16A4 clone build.

Anyone have any recommendations on correct/high quality A2 stocks?  I've been scouring the web and it seems like Colt is OOS everywhere and everything else out there seems to come with plastic trapdoors and spacers.  I see that Fulton Armory lists one with a metal trap door, but no idea who the supplier is.
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Not OOS everywhere; looksie here

Colt A2 Stock
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:35:53 PM EST
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I saw that one, but was hoping to avoid setting up a GB account.  Looks like that's the best option though, thanks.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:44:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LedDuck:
Just bought one of those FN surplus uppers to start my M16A4 clone build.

Anyone have any recommendations on correct/high quality A2 stocks?  I've been scouring the web and it seems like Colt is OOS everywhere and everything else out there seems to come with plastic trapdoors and spacers.  I see that Fulton Armory lists one with a metal trap door, but no idea who the supplier is.
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Check with Shark Arms. Just picked up a FN A2 stock kit. Probably only a couple left.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 9:52:58 PM EST
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Thank, emailed them.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 2:29:21 PM EST
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Well, it looks like I'll be joining the A4 crowd in the near future. Just picked up a full KAC M5 RAS yesterday for a reasonable price. Time to dust off that old butt stock mag pouch I put away all those years ago.
Link Posted: 2/11/2019 4:49:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Not OOS everywhere; looksie here

Colt A2 Stock
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Ended up snapping this one up, thanks.

OOW ships pretty quickly. My upper shipped today and arrives Wednesday.
Link Posted: 2/11/2019 7:14:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LedDuck:

Ended up snapping this one up, thanks.

OOW ships pretty quickly. My upper shipped today and arrives Wednesday.
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Awesome! It will look great.
Link Posted: 2/11/2019 9:42:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:

You should add the BFG front rail sling loop.
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Do you know when the sling loop entered service?
Link Posted: 2/11/2019 9:42:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LedDuck:

Ended up snapping this one up, thanks.

OOW ships pretty quickly. My upper shipped today and arrives Wednesday.
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Just got mine today, it has a keyhole forge upper. it was covered in oil so I took some time to wipe it all down.
Link Posted: 2/13/2019 12:11:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Swanson2255:

Just got mine today, it has a keyhole forge upper. it was covered in oil so I took some time to wipe it all down.
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Nice, looking forward to getting mine.
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 9:44:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/14/2019 12:59:39 PM EST
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ouch
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 3:00:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LedDuck:

Nice, looking forward to getting mine.
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I'm new to A4's. Has a NOS contract upper ever been offered like this before?
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 1:59:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
ouch
Well that's what you get when you wear white socks. That, and surrendering to Iranians.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 7:39:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Swanson2255:

I'm new to A4's. Has a NOS contract upper ever been offered like this before?
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@Swanson2255
If you are referring to FN M16A4 Upper NOS yes they do show up
from time to time. Snagged one on the EE in December plus Shark Arms has has sold the FN M16A4 Upper NOS in the past. Their stock of uppers sold
out pretty quick.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 1:55:58 PM EST
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VCAS slings at Primary Arms for 36 Dollars today!
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 10:50:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
VCAS slings at Primary Arms for 36 Dollars today!
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Confirming is the “VCAS” the same as this?

I suspect so, as the part number includes “VCAS”, just want to confirm.

Is “coyote” the color to get? Or black?
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 12:40:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Is a colt or fn lower more correct? Would they both have the same serial number prefix on an issued rifle?
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If you’re talking about the real issued M16A4s, neither is more correct, since both manufacturers have produced A4s for the U.S. military. However, a lot of people want to clone FNs because that’s the predominant brand in the Marine Corps. The Army seems to have a little more of a mix of Colts and FNs. The serial numbers all seem to be somewhere in the 10XXXXXX range, since they were produced in batches. My Army issued FN was in the 10163XXX series, and I’ve seen pictures of Colts in the 10022XXX range. It would be interesting to find some kind of production records to see which company produced which serial number ranges.

As far as the commercial A4 rifles go, in my opinion, the Colt is going to be closer to using all the same MILSPEC parts as their real M16s, but the roll mark and label (AR-15A4) doesn’t match the real thing. The FN Military Collector M16A4 has more accurate lettering on the lower, but they made some mistakes with it, such as putting AUTO instead of BURST by the selector. Apparently they also may not be able to use true MILSPEC parts on their A4 because they don’t own the specs for commercial sales, only under government contract.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 3:32:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:

If you’re talking about the real issued M16A4s, neither is more correct, since both manufacturers have produced A4s for the U.S. military. However, a lot of people want to clone FNs because that’s the predominant brand in the Marine Corps. The Army seems to have a little more of a mix of Colts and FNs. The serial numbers all seem to be somewhere in the 10XXXXXX range, since they were produced in batches. My Army issued FN was in the 10163XXX series, and I’ve seen pictures of Colts in the 10022XXX range. It would be interesting to find some kind of production records to see which company produced which serial number ranges.

As far as the commercial A4 rifles go, in my opinion, the Colt is going to be closer to using all the same MILSPEC parts as their real M16s, but the roll mark and label (AR-15A4) doesn’t match the real thing. The FN Military Collector M16A4 has more accurate lettering on the lower, but they made some mistakes with it, such as putting AUTO instead of BURST by the selector. Apparently they also may not be able to use true MILSPEC parts on their A4 because they don’t own the specs for commercial sales, only under government contract.
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You could strike out the "AUTO" lettering and electric pencil "BURST" underneath, as I have seen on more than one issued rifle.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 4:37:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Akin:
Confirming is the “VCAS” the same as this?

I suspect so, as the part number includes “VCAS”, just want to confirm.

Is “coyote” the color to get? Or black?
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Originally Posted By Akin:
Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
VCAS slings at Primary Arms for 36 Dollars today!
Confirming is the “VCAS” the same as this?

I suspect so, as the part number includes “VCAS”, just want to confirm.

Is “coyote” the color to get? Or black?
Okay, upon further review, it appears that the one Primary Arms is selling is different than the VCAS that people have linked to before (and I linked above). It doesn’t have the quick-release buckle. The part number is different, too.

Is the cheaper one that Primary Arms is selling still good to go? (This it here)
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 5:26:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Akin:

Okay, upon further review, it appears that the one Primary Arms is selling is different than the VCAS that people have linked to before (and I linked above). It doesn’t have the quick-release buckle. The part number is different, too.

Is the cheaper one that Primary Arms is selling still good to go? (This it here)
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Yeah the one PA is selling is still quality but it’s not the isssue one. Just get the quick release buckle BFG sells and you’re fine. If it’s still cheaper with the shipping from both places then it’s worth it.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 9:58:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
Yeah the one PA is selling is still quality but it’s not the isssue one. Just get the quick release buckle BFG sells and you’re fine. If it’s still cheaper with the shipping from both places then it’s worth it.
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Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
Originally Posted By Akin:

Okay, upon further review, it appears that the one Primary Arms is selling is different than the VCAS that people have linked to before (and I linked above). It doesn’t have the quick-release buckle. The part number is different, too.

Is the cheaper one that Primary Arms is selling still good to go? (This it here)
Yeah the one PA is selling is still quality but it’s not the isssue one. Just get the quick release buckle BFG sells and you’re fine. If it’s still cheaper with the shipping from both places then it’s worth it.
Well, there’s a substantial price difference, but I’ll go with the one from BFG.

Tan or coyote or whatever is the correct color?
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 1:18:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
Apparently they also may not be able to use true MILSPEC parts on their A4 because they don’t own the specs for commercial sales, only under government contract.
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Unless the M4 style upper and F marked FSB is the issue, the rest of the specs are owned by the US Government. Colt only owns the M4 TDP since they developed it, for the most part, on their own for overseas sales, initially.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 2:09:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Akin:

Confirming is the "VCAS" the same as this?

I suspect so, as the part number includes "VCAS", just want to confirm.

Is "coyote" the color to get? Or black?
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@Akin    yep thsts the Vickers Combat Application Sling
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 2:18:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Akin:

Well, there’s a substantial price difference, but I’ll go with the one from BFG.

Tan or coyote or whatever is the correct color?
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Yes, coyote is correct.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 4:59:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/16/2019 8:14:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LedDuck:
Just bought one of those FN surplus uppers to start my M16A4 clone build.

Anyone have any recommendations on correct/high quality A2 stocks?  I've been scouring the web and it seems like Colt is OOS everywhere and everything else out there seems to come with plastic trapdoors and spacers.  I see that Fulton Armory lists one with a metal trap door, but no idea who the supplier is.
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My new in the box  Colt A4 has a plastic trap door.  My old preban sporters  are metal.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 9:10:59 PM EST
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M16A5?
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 10:17:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
M16A5?
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My interpretation of a non-existant rifle, yes.
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 8:14:17 AM EST
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Very sharp looking rifle!
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 6:46:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ar_mcadams:
My new in the box  Colt A4 has a plastic trap door.  My old preban sporters  are metal.
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Originally Posted By ar_mcadams:
Originally Posted By LedDuck:
Just bought one of those FN surplus uppers to start my M16A4 clone build.

Anyone have any recommendations on correct/high quality A2 stocks?  I've been scouring the web and it seems like Colt is OOS everywhere and everything else out there seems to come with plastic trapdoors and spacers.  I see that Fulton Armory lists one with a metal trap door, but no idea who the supplier is.
My new in the box  Colt A4 has a plastic trap door.  My old preban sporters  are metal.
Well after reading some post on here and m4 carbine.net, it looks like the nylon trap door is issue on real military rifles  now.  I read post from both forums of guys that had issued rifles with them.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 8:07:55 PM EST
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FN 15 Military Collector m16

Link Posted: 2/20/2019 8:15:27 PM EST
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FN 15 Military Collector m16
https://i.ibb.co/R4j3BZV/image.jpg
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Sexy
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