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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:51:52 PM EDT
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Shark Arms has FN A2 buttstock assemblies at the moment. Grabbed one for my USMC A4 clone.
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:50:17 PM EDT
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I got one, they are very nice, and def new.
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Posted: 8/23/2019 12:48:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jrpett]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RandyLahey01:
I got one, they are very nice, and def new. |
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Posted: 8/23/2019 5:34:43 PM EDT
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The Shark FN A2 stocks are a very dark gray with black plastic. I posted some photos of one here from the previous time he had them in stock.
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Posted: 8/23/2019 6:16:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
The Shark FN A2 stocks are a very dark gray with black plastic. I posted some photos of one here from the previous time he had them in stock. I shot off an email to order one assuming he still has them in stock. I want one of his M4 or SOCOM uppers but they've been out of stock forever. |
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Posted: 8/23/2019 7:16:20 PM EDT
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Chris mentioned in his blog that he’s hoping to get a shipment of uppers in the near future. I’d recommend giving him a call. He’s a great guy to talk to, and my impression is that he has a whiteboard or something where he maintains a wishlist for regular customers so he can keep an eye out for their requests.
Those FN stocks are excellent. He’s usually pretty good about updating his website, so he probably still has some left since he hasn’t listed them as out of stock yet. |
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Posted: 8/24/2019 4:32:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2019 7:06:31 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 8/27/2019 7:45:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: india13c]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
Any idea on the mount set up? Shortage of 1913 mounts? But you're probably right about the lack of 1913 mounts as being the reason since that pic is so early on in their issue. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:49:02 AM EDT
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Is Model 1 Sales GTG for A2 buttstock kits? Their price seems really good. Never bought anything from them before, so just checking.
Also, are these more grey or black in color? |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 12:41:10 PM EDT
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I know that all types of slings are used on the A4, but what would be the one that would have been used/issued during the 2003-2005 time frame? I'm guessing the Vickers ACS sling like this? In coyote brown? https://www.blueforcegear.com/nsn-vickers-combat-applications-sling.html
I like to sling up when I shoot, are you still able to do that, is it still possible to do that with the Vickers? Was the black M1 type sling ever issued/used, I do like these but were they ever issued and would they be appropriate for that time frame? https://www.ammogarand.com/m1-garand-black-cotton-web-sling-new-production-5039s-15039.html Additionally, what bayonet was issued by USMC at that time, the M7, M9 or the OKC3s? Coyote brown on that also? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2019 1:45:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
Any idea on the mount set up? Shortage of 1913 mounts? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/213498/FD3B1675-D22F-45E8-9341-B747C2BB7C27_jpeg-1069607.JPG 
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Posted: 8/28/2019 4:00:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonm78:
Screws in through the bottom. Has a hole in it so you can still use irons. https://i.imgur.com/x6tNPCV.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonm78:
Originally Posted By lafmedic1:
Any idea on the mount set up? Shortage of 1913 mounts? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/213498/FD3B1675-D22F-45E8-9341-B747C2BB7C27_jpeg-1069607.JPG https://i.imgur.com/x6tNPCV.jpg |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: That and it probably was compatible with the M16A2 they had right before deployment. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:56:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
This is what I was wondering. Did the early acog not come with a 1913 mount since that is an A4 CD |
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Posted: 8/31/2019 2:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA:
Shark Arms has FN A2 buttstock assemblies at the moment. Grabbed one for my USMC A4 clone. Along with the FN upper from OOW I also found these. Had forgotten my son gave these to me in ‘08 ??? As I have stated before, looking to build an M16A4 along the lines and time frame when he was active duty. ( ‘05-‘09 ) Was in Iraq ‘07 Have all the parts and pieces to finish the job. Now just need to put her together . 
For those interested, here are the pictures of the Knights Armament rail covers.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/3/2019 5:24:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nitmr26:
Here's my latest A4 from Sabre Defence. This was assembled with a NOS Sabre Defence M16A4 upper receiver and a Sabre Defence XR-15 lower receiver. The FCG, CH, grip, and stock body are Colt. The BCG is a Toolcraft. The lower parts are from SOLGW. The carrying handle was a spare I had in my parts bin. https://i.imgur.com/mLqsJF5.jpg?2 https://i.imgur.com/7583Ixh.jpg?2 https://i.imgur.com/ewCFzRD.jpg?2 https://i.imgur.com/ul5cBAN.jpg?2 Here's a USMC issued Sabre Defence M16A4 for reference: https://i.imgur.com/yfAw49r.jpg?1 |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2019 5:06:17 PM EDT
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Does this Colt fit this thread? Does this handguard have a specific name? Did all of the mil a4s come with the quad rail?
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Posted: 9/15/2019 5:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
Does this Colt fit this thread? Does this handguard have a specific name? Did all of the mil a4s come with the quad rail? https://i.imgur.com/6uR95Wv.jpg 2) A2 Handguards. 3) Maybe. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2019 5:35:20 PM EDT
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So really this rifle is a mix, A4 bc of removable carry handle and A2 handguard?
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Posted: 9/15/2019 5:37:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Darkstar117:
1) Yes. 2) A2 Handguards. 3) Maybe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Darkstar117:
Originally Posted By smokedoff:
Does this Colt fit this thread? Does this handguard have a specific name? Did all of the mil a4s come with the quad rail? https://i.imgur.com/6uR95Wv.jpg 2) A2 Handguards. 3) Maybe. The M5 became standard on them around 2000ish when they became standard on the M4 |
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Posted: 9/15/2019 5:38:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
So really this rifle is a mix, A4 bc of removable carry handle and A2 handguard? |
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Posted: 9/15/2019 5:41:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cone256]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
So really this rifle is a mix, A4 bc of removable carry handle and A2 handguard? |
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Posted: 9/15/2019 6:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
Does this Colt fit this thread? Does this handguard have a specific name? Did all of the mil a4s come with the quad rail? https://i.imgur.com/6uR95Wv.jpg 2) Already covered 3) Already covered  Attached File |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2019 6:15:52 PM EDT
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Why would you think Colt didn’t put flash hiders on these rifles?
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2019 6:52:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
Why would you think Colt didn’t put flash hiders on these rifles? |
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Posted: 9/15/2019 7:33:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3ACR_Scout]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beamy:
When originally introduced on August 1997 the A4 came with A2 handguards. The M5 became standard on them around 2000ish when they became standard on the M4 A lot of our M4s were the same way in the early 2000s. We received the M4 rails separately, so they had to be installed on our M4s, and not everyone bothered to do that. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2019 7:39:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Yours is an AWB (assault weapons ban) era rifle. No flash suppressor, no bayonet lug, a screw-type pivot pin, and it may have the larger FCG pins. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By smokedoff:
Why would you think Colt didn’t put flash hiders on these rifles? |
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Posted: 9/15/2019 7:53:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
I did not know that. It was giving to me by my dad a few years ago. I’ve just not done my research on the awb. I knew the rifle had the designations you listed, but didn’t know it had to do with the awb. Thanks for the info! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokedoff:
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By smokedoff:
Why would you think Colt didn’t put flash hiders on these rifles? Pistol grip Collapsible stock Flash hider or barrel was threaded and capable of taking a flash hider Bayonet lug Barrel shroud The only feature that Colt has is a pistol grip, so it would not be considered an assault weapon. In an attempt to preemptively placate the pro-gun control crowd, Colt also did some additional stuff to their rifles to make them difficult to convert to machine guns, such as larger diameter FCG pins, auto sear blocks, and differently cut BCGs. For what it's worth, last Friday (September 13), was the 25th anniversary of the AWB and the 15th anniversary of its sunset. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 1:03:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USMC_JA]
[#30]
My recently completed FN M16A4 build. I added the appropriate UID sticker after taking the photos.
It also has the newer M7 RCO. But I'm cool with that because it is USMC issue and I prefer the horseshoe reticle. This rifle just feels right. Really enjoyed putting it together. 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 5:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA:
My recently completed FN M16A4 build. I added the appropriate UID sticker after taking the photos. It also has the newer M7 RCO. But I'm cool with that because it is USMC issue and I prefer the horseshoe reticle. This rifle just feels right. Really enjoyed putting it together. https://i.imgur.com/aHFpUdm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0hVJjwN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GqBDzd6.jpg |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 6:51:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA:
My recently completed FN M16A4 build. I added the appropriate UID sticker after taking the photos. It also has the newer M7 RCO. But I'm cool with that because it is USMC issue and I prefer the horseshoe reticle. This rifle just feels right. Really enjoyed putting it together. https://i.imgur.com/aHFpUdm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0hVJjwN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GqBDzd6.jpg |
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Posted: 9/17/2019 12:35:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA:
My recently completed FN M16A4 build. I added the appropriate UID sticker after taking the photos. It also has the newer M7 RCO. But I'm cool with that because it is USMC issue and I prefer the horseshoe reticle. This rifle just feels right. Really enjoyed putting it together. https://i.imgur.com/aHFpUdm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0hVJjwN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GqBDzd6.jpg 
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Posted: 9/17/2019 3:27:47 PM EDT
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Thanks guys. Appreciate the compliments.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JUDGED12carried6: You beat me! Trying to think of something smart to say. Ill go be bitter over here |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 2:10:52 AM EDT
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i like how you set up the backup sight. i like the optic back a bit more like that.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA:
My recently completed FN M16A4 build. I added the appropriate UID sticker after taking the photos. It also has the newer M7 RCO. But I'm cool with that because it is USMC issue and I prefer the horseshoe reticle. This rifle just feels right. Really enjoyed putting it together. https://i.imgur.com/aHFpUdm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0hVJjwN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GqBDzd6.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 12:26:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSOG1:
i like how you set up the backup sight. i like the optic back a bit more like that. 
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Posted: 9/20/2019 2:42:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HighpowerRifleBrony]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA:
Yeah...now I just need to see if it actually works set that far forward. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2019 2:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: Yeah...now I just need to see if it actually works set that far forward. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 3:31:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Might want to open up the aperture. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Might want to open up the aperture. Originally Posted By uniform64: I mounted a KAC 300m Micro backwards with the aperture removed |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2019 4:05:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Not on an A4 but you get the drift. I didn't have to ream it out just removed the plastic insert.
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Posted: 9/20/2019 4:41:28 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64:
Not on an A4 but you get the drift. I didn't have to ream it out just removed the plastic insert. https://live.staticflickr.com/4544/37728532904_3b8deaf1d2_o.jpg |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2019 2:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TennesseeRat:
Nice rifle. Is Sabre Defence back in business, or are these parts somewhat dated? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2019 10:44:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mb44kar]
[#43]
Here's my recently completed A4 clone. Aero Precision A4 lower, military contract FN upper that came with a cage-coded RAS and carry handle, from Hans at GMI.
FN Bolt, Colt CH, and Center Industries USGI mag came from Shark Arms, Chris is super GTG. The grip I got directly from Knights Armament, I'm fine with it saying Titusville and not Vero beach. 
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Posted: 10/5/2019 5:05:48 PM EDT
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Finally done.
LMT Defender lower FN A2 stock Milspec LPK LaRue MBT 2S trigger OOW FN NOS upper Toolcraft BCG Acog RCO  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/13/2019 10:21:59 PM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By USMC_JA:
My recently completed FN M16A4 build. I added the appropriate UID sticker after taking the photos. It also has the newer M7 RCO. But I'm cool with that because it is USMC issue and I prefer the horseshoe reticle. This rifle just feels right. Really enjoyed putting it together. https://i.imgur.com/aHFpUdm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0hVJjwN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GqBDzd6.jpg |
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Posted: 10/14/2019 10:19:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKPILOT:
Where did you get the FN M16A4 lower?  Attached File Attached File |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2019 11:42:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord: It is a Black Creek Precision M16A4 lower that they are making now. The OP had someone do the FN logo. Here is what the lower looks like without the FN logo. This one is mine (serial number 1). Myself and another individual were instrumental in getting BCP to make these, along with M16A2 marked lowers, a couple years ago. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/008_JPG-1123648.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/004_JPG-1123649.JPG |
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Posted: 10/14/2019 11:55:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Your delta ring isn't doing much in the way of retaining that RAS. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2019 7:35:16 PM EDT
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My A4gery. Colt 1-7 barrel and BCG. And a Magpul grip because I fucking despise the A2 grip.
Here's the TA31RCOA4 Bible verse: John 8:12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” 
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Posted: 10/14/2019 9:43:00 PM EDT
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I can finally contribute to one of these threads. About 95% to where I want it. Just finished building out the lower (the lower itself is the only thing not correct, if I could get my hands on the proper FN lower I'd fix it) Everything else is genuine FN or KAC.
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