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Link Posted: 6/8/2024 5:27:08 PM EDT
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I’m pretty sure I got the exact shotgun barrel and magazine clamp that Travis used on his gun in 2003. Still waiting on an old Surefire 6P USPS has had for the last two days. Anyone know what size lens cap for a 6P?





Link Posted: 6/11/2024 11:00:11 PM EDT
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Got in my sleeve, excited to start piecing together stuff for this Haley clone. Came in way better than I'd expected, it's an early production #38-EX with the A2 windage knob, original steel clamp from the first Swan Sleeves (pre-numbering system), and no #35 mounting track down the center. Almost feel bad about painting it, if I come across a late model I'll probably use that instead.




Also still need to find a wingless NLS #17 for my #22-M68, a Comp M68 marked one would probably be more correct than a Comp II M68 but tracking down one of those seems more trouble than it's worth. I've seen CompM2s with those mounts sell for $650+, which is frankly overpriced for what you get out of it. I'll get one eventually though.



Hopefully the rest of the build won't be too hard, the M203 is obviously the hardest part. I'll probably get a 37mm one, I don't see any point in getting a tax stamp for a real one if I'll only ever be able to fire chalk rounds.
Link Posted: 6/12/2024 12:13:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Got in my sleeve, excited to start piecing together stuff for this Haley clone. Came in way better than I'd expected, it's an early production #38-EX with the A2 windage knob, original steel clamp from the first Swan Sleeves (pre-numbering system), and no #35 mounting track down the center. Almost feel bad about painting it, if I come across a late model I'll probably use that instead.

https://i.imgur.com/FR1dAjw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mpITIdu.jpg

Also still need to find a wingless NLS #17 for my #22-M68, a Comp M68 marked one would probably be more correct than a Comp II M68 but tracking down one of those seems more trouble than it's worth. I've seen CompM2s with those mounts sell for $650+, which is frankly overpriced for what you get out of it. I'll get one eventually though.

https://i.imgur.com/WiZHOfc.jpg

Hopefully the rest of the build won't be too hard, the M203 is obviously the hardest part. I'll probably get a 37mm one, I don't see any point in getting a tax stamp for a real one if I'll only ever be able to fire chalk rounds.
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I want that swan sleeve.

Progress on mine. Old Colt tick safety will be here Friday. Need an old M951 tailcap and pressure switch.













Link Posted: 6/12/2024 5:18:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy:


I want that swan sleeve.

Progress on mine. Old Colt tick safety will be here Friday. Need an old M951 tailcap and pressure switch.

https://i.imgur.com/HkAPVZU.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/26WMkiw.jpeg

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I completely forgot about it, but yeah the latch for the #40 and #40L are different. You might be able to call and ask if they can ship you a #40 latch, no idea if they'll do that though. Or you can bubba it with a Dremel and just carve a new latch, but I'd highly recommend against that
Link Posted: 6/13/2024 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2024 10:52:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2024 11:49:42 PM EDT
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What’s up with the PEQ2 mount but no PEQ2?
Link Posted: 6/15/2024 12:41:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK318:


What’s up with the PEQ2 mount but no PEQ2?
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Originally Posted By MK318:


What’s up with the PEQ2 mount but no PEQ2?

He copied Haley’s rifle (pic at the top of the page) which has the mount, but no laser.
Link Posted: 6/22/2024 1:32:02 PM EDT
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God I so love that carbine


37mm or 40mm?
Link Posted: 6/22/2024 2:52:51 PM EDT
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God I so love that carbine


37mm or 40mm?
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40mm.



Got another piece in. Besides a lens cap for the light and finishing the rear sight, she done.

Link Posted: 6/25/2024 10:13:49 PM EDT
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Off to a salty start.

Link Posted: 6/27/2024 1:37:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Off to a salty start.

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Won’t matter once the rattle cans get to sprayin.
Link Posted: 6/27/2024 6:11:27 PM EDT
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Won’t matter once the rattle cans get to sprayin.
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Originally Posted By MK318:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Off to a salty start.

https://i.imgur.com/VKCR9e3.jpg


Won’t matter once the rattle cans get to sprayin.


Oh I'm way too big of a wuss for that, I'll just cover them up with panels like I did with my A4 clone
Link Posted: 6/27/2024 6:26:28 PM EDT
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Oh I'm way too big of a wuss for that, I'll just cover them up with panels like I did with my A4 clone
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Originally Posted By MK318:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Off to a salty start.

https://i.imgur.com/VKCR9e3.jpg


Won’t matter once the rattle cans get to sprayin.


Oh I'm way too big of a wuss for that, I'll just cover them up with panels like I did with my A4 clone

Link Posted: 6/27/2024 6:34:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


Oh I'm way too big of a wuss for that, I'll just cover them up with panels like I did with my A4 clone
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Link Posted: 6/27/2024 7:17:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


Oh I'm way too big of a wuss for that, I'll just cover them up with panels like I did with my A4 clone




https://i.imgur.com/WohuR6l.jpeg


Oh don't get me wrong, painted rifles look fantastic. I just don't trust myself in the slightest to be able to do it myself.
Link Posted: 6/27/2024 7:36:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


Oh don't get me wrong, painted rifles look fantastic. I just don't trust myself in the slightest to be able to do it myself.
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


Oh I'm way too big of a wuss for that, I'll just cover them up with panels like I did with my A4 clone




https://i.imgur.com/WohuR6l.jpeg


Oh don't get me wrong, painted rifles look fantastic. I just don't trust myself in the slightest to be able to do it myself.

Tape off the important bits. Grab a brew. When you hit "fuck it" start spraying. Don't overthink it.
Link Posted: 6/27/2024 9:05:37 PM EDT
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Big piece of plywood. Put rifle on plywood. Paint rifle tan. Turn rifle over. Paint tan. Let dry for a minute. Paint brown streak/net pattern/vegetation etc.. Turn rifle over. Do the same thing on other side.

Don’t prep or clean or anything beforehand. That’s gay.
Link Posted: 6/27/2024 9:13:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Big piece of plywood. Put rifle on plywood. Paint rifle tan. Turn rifle over. Paint tan. Let dry for a minute. Paint brown streak/net pattern/vegetation etc.. Turn rifle over. Do the same thing on other side.

Don’t prep or clean or anything beforehand. That’s gay.
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Says the guy that taped off his s/n's.
Link Posted: 6/28/2024 2:07:16 AM EDT
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That’s not gay.

Maybe
Link Posted: 6/28/2024 3:37:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Says the guy that taped off his s/n's.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Big piece of plywood. Put rifle on plywood. Paint rifle tan. Turn rifle over. Paint tan. Let dry for a minute. Paint brown streak/net pattern/vegetation etc.. Turn rifle over. Do the same thing on other side.

Don’t prep or clean or anything beforehand. That’s gay.

Says the guy that taped off his s/n's.



Link Posted: 6/29/2024 2:04:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/29/2024 6:10:15 PM EDT
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Is there any rhyme or reason between a gun getting a SOCOM or gov profile barrel? Do certain units prefer one over the other or does it really just depend on what's available?
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 6:53:37 PM EDT
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Quick mock-up before it goes out for a spacer and pin/weld.

Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:31:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Quick mock-up before it goes out for a spacer and pin/weld.

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Were did you purchase the upper?

Brownells

Armsunlimited


Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:33:18 PM EDT
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Were did you purchase the upper?

Brownells

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You can get the 6921 14.5 from brownells right now. I'm sure he got a 6921 and added the rail.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:42:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:

You can get the 6921 14.5 from brownells right now. I'm sure he got a 6921 and added the rail.
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Were did you purchase the upper?

Brownells

Armsunlimited



You can get the 6921 14.5 from brownells right now. I'm sure he got a 6921 and added the rail.


Yup, stripped upper from Brownells and a surplus RAS from Apex Armament.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:49:40 PM EDT
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If you want a Kac ris operation parts has them in stock new.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:54:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
If you want a Kac ris operation parts has them in stock new.
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I wouldn't mind a new one but not for $418
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:56:46 PM EDT
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I wouldn't mind a new one but not for $418
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Just remember it's a ris and not the later ras. The Ris has been out of production for a couple decades.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 10:04:23 PM EDT
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This rifle is not perfectly clone correct, but I love it.
Link Posted: 6/30/2024 3:32:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Is there any rhyme or reason between a gun getting a SOCOM or gov profile barrel? Do certain units prefer one over the other or does it really just depend on what's available?
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More on what's available.  I have all of those in stock.  The Crane barrels (FSB removed and dimpled) are old stock.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 1:29:21 PM EDT
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Still trying to decide on an optic 🤔

Link Posted: 7/2/2024 2:13:10 PM EDT
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Any one-stop shops out there for M4A1 Block I style uppers?

Or is the best option still to just source the parts separately and build it?
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 3:42:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Any one-stop shops out there for M4A1 Block I style uppers?

Or is the best option still to just source the parts separately and build it?
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Colt had their SOCOM carbine for this.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 4:34:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Any one-stop shops out there for M4A1 Block I style uppers?

Or is the best option still to just source the parts separately and build it?
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Any one-stop shops out there for M4A1 Block I style uppers?

Or is the best option still to just source the parts separately and build it?


Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Colt had their SOCOM carbine for this.

^^^^^
what he said

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1055701377
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 5:35:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

More on what's available.  I have all of those in stock.  The Crane barrels (FSB removed and dimpled) are old stock.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Is there any rhyme or reason between a gun getting a SOCOM or gov profile barrel? Do certain units prefer one over the other or does it really just depend on what's available?

More on what's available.  I have all of those in stock.  The Crane barrels (FSB removed and dimpled) are old stock.


Any difference in accuracy with, colt, kak, fn, rem?
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 6:41:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


Any difference in accuracy with, colt, kak, fn, rem?
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Is there any rhyme or reason between a gun getting a SOCOM or gov profile barrel? Do certain units prefer one over the other or does it really just depend on what's available?

More on what's available.  I have all of those in stock.  The Crane barrels (FSB removed and dimpled) are old stock.


Any difference in accuracy with, colt, kak, fn, rem?

Colt/FN/Remington have been apples to apples comparison, IME.
Link Posted: 7/3/2024 3:09:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


Any difference in accuracy with, colt, kak, fn, rem?
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None in my experience
Link Posted: 7/6/2024 1:09:11 AM EDT
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Quick mock-up before it goes out for a spacer and pin/weld.

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Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.
Link Posted: 7/6/2024 12:21:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK318:


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.
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Does that paint remover cause discoloration or damage to the anodizing/finish?
Link Posted: 7/6/2024 1:31:54 PM EDT
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Does that paint remover cause discoloration or damage to the anodizing/finish?
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Originally Posted By MK318:


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.


Does that paint remover cause discoloration or damage to the anodizing/finish?

No
Link Posted: 7/6/2024 3:37:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK318:


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.


Does that paint remover cause discoloration or damage to the anodizing/finish?

No



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Link Posted: 7/6/2024 8:19:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK318:


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.
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After the Citri Strip, let it sit in Diesel for awhile. It gets the CitriStrip slimy residue off really well, gets off the paint that was softened up but not fully taken off by the Citri, and leaves the ano feeling nice and slick.

ETA: Step 4, don't let anyone see the environmental nightmare you just created.
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Originally Posted By MK318:


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Quick mock-up before it goes out for a spacer and pin/weld.

https://i.imgur.com/tIYUzz7.jpg


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.


I think I'm going start out with painting the incorrect Leupold I have on my Mod H. If that goes well I'll consider doing the Block I once it's finished.



ETA: Ordered a CompM2 from Thoroughbred, this definitely pushes me further towards painting it


Link Posted: 7/10/2024 8:11:22 AM EDT
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Getting ready to teach various M16/M4 builds this week.  Will assemble numerous guns.
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I think I'm going start out with painting the incorrect Leupold I have on my Mod H. If that goes well I'll consider doing the Block I once it's finished.

https://i.imgur.com/u8oI0CL.jpg

ETA: Ordered a CompM2 from Thoroughbred, this definitely pushes me further towards painting it

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Originally Posted By MK318:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Quick mock-up before it goes out for a spacer and pin/weld.

https://i.imgur.com/tIYUzz7.jpg


Hawk Tuah on that thang. Don’t over think the rattle can, you can’t mess it up and if you do just spray over it. I have a rifle that probably has five or six layers of rattle can. It’s been green, tan, reddish desert earth, back to tan, green and back to tan. The grip will show wear and then all the raised areas and before long it will look well used. You can’t mess it up. If you ever want to go back to black just spray it down with a water hose and dump a bottle of THIS on it, let it sit for about an hour then scrub it off with a Scrub brush while using the water hose to clear away the paint. You’ll still have some paint in the corners and hard to reach areas but it will be 99% gone for the most part.


I think I'm going start out with painting the incorrect Leupold I have on my Mod H. If that goes well I'll consider doing the Block I once it's finished.

https://i.imgur.com/u8oI0CL.jpg

ETA: Ordered a CompM2 from Thoroughbred, this definitely pushes me further towards painting it

https://i.imgur.com/SxV9TLA.jpg


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Better shape than I was expecting.

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