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Posted: 2/14/2014 8:06:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb:
Yeah sure, $1300 right  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By rgb:
http://<a href=http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/rbreden/Ar15/20140214_111028_zps3mbevv1o.jpg</a>" /> Somebody help me, what optic goes here.... I'm a fan of the 2.5-10, I've got a SU-230 and think the NF fits better on the Block II. All depends on the purpose you want it to serve I suppose..... http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-dsdpzH4/0/L/i-dsdpzH4-M.jpg I've even got a very special spare if you're interested
http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-7wh5hr8/0/M/i-7wh5hr8-M.jpg Yeah sure, $1300 right He told me $750  .
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Posted: 2/14/2014 11:06:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mb121]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
1) Was/is the M4 RIS II FSP (black) ever used "in the wild?" Yes, if you check out the article covering competition to combat crossover of tactical accessories written by Jeff Gurwitch (he is also a member of this site IIRC) for defense review there is a picture of a M4A1 with black FSP RIS II being used in Afghanistan. So while it may not have been issued there is one shown picture of use of the black FSP RIS II. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2014 11:37:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u594/jawsattacks1/Blockii_zpsf6614bbb.jpg Nice! Reminds me of this one: http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/TheHamburglar13/Rangers/5.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By jaw187:
Here is my Humble submission. I have been following this thread for months and months and finally have something I feel is ready to show off. Nice! Reminds me of this one: http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/TheHamburglar13/Rangers/5.jpg Thinking of selling off my Matech,Taupe KAC, and EoTech to help fund another ACOG. I like that Blk II |
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Posted: 2/14/2014 11:49:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Lawdog-1 is looking for a taupe sight. They are hot movers right now, and I know he wanted the one I snagged on the EE
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Posted: 2/14/2014 11:54:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: ^ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By GreenSwamperin: Originally Posted By rgb: http://<a href=http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/rbreden/Ar15/20140214_111028_zps3mbevv1o.jpg</a>" /> Somebody help me, what optic goes here.... SU-230 ^   I go back and forth. The 2.5-10x24 is a neat optic but I'd go with the Elcan. |
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Posted: 2/15/2014 12:01:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121: Yes, if you check out the article covering competition to combat crossover of tactical accessories written by Jeff Gurwitch (he is also a member of this site IIRC) for defense review there is a picture of a M4A1 with black FSP RIS II being used in Afghanistan. So while it may not have been issued there is one shown picture of use of the black FSP RIS II. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121: Originally Posted By C6H12O6: 1) Was/is the M4 RIS II FSP (black) ever used "in the wild?" Yes, if you check out the article covering competition to combat crossover of tactical accessories written by Jeff Gurwitch (he is also a member of this site IIRC) for defense review there is a picture of a M4A1 with black FSP RIS II being used in Afghanistan. So while it may not have been issued there is one shown picture of use of the black FSP RIS II. The fact that the rail is date stamped means it was intending for a military contract. At least that's my understanding from what Stickman said earlier in the thread.
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Posted: 2/15/2014 1:31:03 AM EDT
[#7]
I should have just got the ecos when I got mine, It ended up costing more to add the rmr later, by the time I bought the acog, rmr, rmr mount, & larue mount, I could have just bought the elcan
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Posted: 2/15/2014 3:16:09 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb: http://<a href=http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/rbreden/Ar15/20140214_111028_zps3mbevv1o.jpg</a>" /> Somebody help me, what optic goes here.... Everybody is saying ELCAN so I'll pull an audible and say a TA01NSN with an MRD of some flavor - whichever is clone-proper.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 3:34:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Saw this in the SOF thread, VTAC sling |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 11:17:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Which Surefire hider is that? RC or 215?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 11:40:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: G_MAN]
[#11]
Finally have my block II complete. started a year ago after collecting parts for a FSP build and changing the direction on optics, rail and what not here it is. Hope to slay some hogs with it later tonite.
Complete Colt M4A1 lower w/SSA LMT SOPMOD gen 2 black non-clone Noveske 14.5 upper w/AAC 51T FH SF 620v VTAC sling CQBSS w/H27 in LT mount TD QD stubby VG no BUIS and it will stay that way 
inspired by: 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 5:13:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaska511: Lawdog-1 is looking for a taupe sight. They are hot movers right now, and I know he wanted the one I snagged on the EE HRMMM how much did you spend on the one you snagged? I've got two collecting dust. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 5:25:28 PM EDT
[#13]
OH HEY while I'm thinking about it. A buddy of mine gave me the body and clicker tail cap from his Surefire Scout M600, he upgraded to a body sold by S & S so he didn't need the stock Surefire Scout body anymore.
I need a head for it. I'd LIKE the 500 lumen Surefire Scout M600U head but I'm not seeing those for sale anywhere including eBay. What options do you guys suggest? Does anyone have something I might wanna sell? Looking for something that is still semi-BLOCK II kosher. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 6:44:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By new_ak_fan:
Which Surefire hider is that? RC or 215? Looks like an RC |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2014 9:20:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#15]
Think I'm about to break down and just go with the Surefire 3-prong. Been holding out on going with a 14.5 inch pinned and welded in hopes of scoring a Surefire 4-prong SOCOM flash hider.
Hard to tell from this photo but I finally got the COLT original 1966 tear drop forward assist installed!  |
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Posted: 2/15/2014 9:40:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2014 12:03:50 AM EDT
[#17]
Looking for a tan eotech 553 for either my mk18 or block ll. Preferably used for a dcent price if anyone has one.
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Posted: 2/16/2014 12:13:11 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryLotsa cool shit happening here. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 1:58:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JBecker_72]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
OH HEY while I'm thinking about it. A buddy of mine gave me the body and clicker tail cap from his Surefire Scout M600, he upgraded to a body sold by S & S so he didn't need the stock Surefire Scout body anymore. I need a head for it. I'd LIKE the 500 lumen Surefire Scout M600U head but I'm not seeing those for sale anywhere including eBay. What options do you guys suggest? Does anyone have something I might wanna sell? Looking for something that is still semi-BLOCK II kosher. The KX2C 200 lumen head is pretty easy to find. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=583525&is=REG&Q=&A=details The KE2A 500 lumen is out there as well for double the price. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1029635-REG/surefire_ke2_a_tn_led_module_500_lumens.html ETA: I've bought a lot of Surefire stuff from BH Photo and it's always been a good experience. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 2:24:37 AM EDT
[#20]
Does FN make the M4A1 heavy barrel, or are they are Colt?
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 2:24:57 AM EDT
[#21]
What pistol grip besides the A2 would be appropriate on a block II? Would an A1 be good?
Heres what I've got so far for my build on a budget: Colt 6920 FDE Magpul base gun $850 DD RIS II FDE $250 Colt Socom 14.5" barrel $170 Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN ~$250 in trade value What I want/ need still: Lancer L5 AWM mags and/or regular aluminum 30's BCM Battlecomp mod 1 pinned BCM or DD Low profile gas block (Should I have this pinned or just leave the set screws???) B5 or LMT gen 1 or 2 sopmod (How are the Sopmods in the blue plastic bags? I heard these were out of spec) KAC Taupe front sight Matech buis (Will this rear sight work with the kac front sight properly?) Eventually want to put a geisselle SSA or SSA-e in it too but thats another $200 I don't have 
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Posted: 2/16/2014 2:32:11 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PirateFreedom:
Does FN make the M4A1 heavy barrel, or are they are Colt? Colt. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 3:38:47 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
OH HEY while I'm thinking about it. A buddy of mine gave me the body and clicker tail cap from his Surefire Scout M600, he upgraded to a body sold by S & S so he didn't need the stock Surefire Scout body anymore. I need a head for it. I'd LIKE the 500 lumen Surefire Scout M600U head but I'm not seeing those for sale anywhere including eBay. What options do you guys suggest? Does anyone have something I might wanna sell? Looking for something that is still semi-BLOCK II kosher. KM2 head is pretty nice and it gives you a good reason to get NV |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 3:41:25 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xoldsmugglerx:
What pistol grip besides the A2 would be appropriate on a block II? Would an A1 be good? Heres what I've got so far for my build on a budget: Colt 6920 FDE Magpul base gun $850 DD RIS II FDE $250 Colt Socom 14.5" barrel $170 Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN ~$250 in trade value What I want/ need still: Lancer L5 AWM mags and/or regular aluminum 30's BCM Battlecomp mod 1 pinned BCM or DD Low profile gas block (Should I have this pinned or just leave the set screws???) B5 or LMT gen 1 or 2 sopmod (How are the Sopmods in the blue plastic bags? I heard these were out of spec) KAC Taupe front sight Matech buis (Will this rear sight work with the kac front sight properly?) Eventually want to put a geisselle SSA or SSA-e in it too but thats another $200 I don't have
Nice build specs but ditch the battle comp.. no point in spending all that effort to have everything clone correct and then add a compensator. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 6:50:12 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xoldsmugglerx:
What pistol grip besides the A2 would be appropriate on a block II? Would an A1 be good? Heres what I've got so far for my build on a budget: Colt 6920 FDE Magpul base gun $850 DD RIS II FDE $250 Colt Socom 14.5" barrel $170 Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN ~$250 in trade value What I want/ need still: Lancer L5 AWM mags and/or regular aluminum 30's BCM Battlecomp mod 1 pinned BCM or DD Low profile gas block (Should I have this pinned or just leave the set screws???) B5 or LMT gen 1 or 2 sopmod (How are the Sopmods in the blue plastic bags? I heard these were out of spec) KAC Taupe front sight Matech buis (Will this rear sight work with the kac front sight properly?) Eventually want to put a geisselle SSA or SSA-e in it too but thats another $200 I don't have
I'd just go set screw, my loctite gas blocks have held up fine. Just make sure to acetone all the screws and threads beforehand, a lot of people neglect this step. Blue bag B5 ones are out of spec. Matech will work fine |
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Posted: 2/16/2014 10:06:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2014 2:48:51 PM EDT
[#27]
Curiosity question for you Elcan owners - is the 1x a true 1x? Can you co-witness with it?
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 3:44:24 PM EDT
[#28]
I wish I could just use a flash hider, but since I am going to school in Nebraska and live in NJ, I will have to make this rifle ban compliant before I go home. If I permanently weld a muzzle brake, all I will have to do to make this gun legal in NJ is to put a fixed MOE stock on the carbine extension. I figured the battle comp would be a good choice because it looks A2ish. I am open to other brakes though if anyone knows a better one.
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USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 3:47:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SUPER_6_1:
Curiosity question for you Elcan owners - is the 1x a true 1x? Can you co-witness with it? No. You also need the same eye relief in 1x that you do in 4x. |
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Posted: 2/16/2014 3:48:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex:
No. You also need the same eye relief in 1x that you do in 4x. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By SUPER_6_1:
Curiosity question for you Elcan owners - is the 1x a true 1x? Can you co-witness with it? No. You also need the same eye relief in 1x that you do in 4x. Ok, good to know. |
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Posted: 2/16/2014 7:09:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Mostly final resting configuration for this rifle. The only thing I want to change is getting a coyote tan stock vs. this light colored tan B5.
Partial family photo  :
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Posted: 2/16/2014 7:18:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DT-USA: Mostly final resting configuration for this rifle. The only thing I want to change is getting a coyote tan stock vs. this light colored tan B5. http://i.imgur.com/TUfbDuY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/v9wmcEI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2NIBhwD.jpg Partial family photo :http://i.imgur.com/WITtNaD.jpg Looks good, capt'n. I dig how you routed your Insight cables under the KAC flip.  |
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Posted: 2/16/2014 7:28:41 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Looks good, capt'n. I dig how you routed your Insight cables under the KAC flip. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By DT-USA:
Mostly final resting configuration for this rifle. The only thing I want to change is getting a coyote tan stock vs. this light colored tan B5. http://i.imgur.com/TUfbDuY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/v9wmcEI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2NIBhwD.jpg Partial family photo :
http://i.imgur.com/WITtNaD.jpg Looks good, capt'n. I dig how you routed your Insight cables under the KAC flip. It's a perfect fit, recommend two people when doing to avoid damage to the cables (which has yet to happen). The other end, since no PEQ, is routed under the light itself (also requiring two people). |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2014 9:42:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Which is the preferred way to attach a sling to the DD rail? CQD or either the Knight or DD push button sling mounts?
Also if you use the CQD mount do you use a HK hook or just thread the sling thru it? |
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Posted: 2/16/2014 10:41:33 PM EDT
[#35]
I think cqd is more correct, either hook or loop, but I've found its just to much fan weight and the hooks are unreliable.
I've switched to qd mounts, though I'm sure I'm not winning purity clone points |
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Posted: 2/17/2014 12:23:52 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xoldsmugglerx:
I wish I could just use a flash hider, but since I am going to school in Nebraska and live in NJ, I will have to make this rifle ban compliant before I go home. If I permanently weld a muzzle brake, all I will have to do to make this gun legal in NJ is to put a fixed MOE stock on the carbine extension. I figured the battle comp would be a good choice because it looks A2ish. I am open to other brakes though if anyone knows a better one. http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=224&bc=no#axzz2tYOpkkfC Looks as close to an A2 Flash Suppressor as you're gonna get with a muzzle brake. |
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Posted: 2/17/2014 12:29:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BePhreed]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRB45:
Which is the preferred way to attach a sling to the DD rail? CQD or either the Knight or DD push button sling mounts? Also if you use the CQD mount do you use a HK hook or just thread the sling thru it? I use CQD mounts with the HK hooks/ |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 1:05:14 AM EDT
[#38]
I plan on selling my Blk CQD/Blackhawk 1-2 sling, anybody need one PM me or Email Me if interested in it . I use QD sling mounts on my M4's w/ Vickers slings and love them.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 2:41:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dog_dad]
[#39]
I found some old pictures from 3 years ago. A friend shooting my first Block II build, good times. Note the black EXPS3-0, Chrome BCG, and M952V, I was lax on conforming to the spec parts back then.
But still, I had almost everything right. 
Originally Posted By ankratz:
I think cqd is more correct, either hook or loop, but I've found its just to much fan weight and the hooks are unreliable. I've switched to qd mounts, though I'm sure I'm not winning purity clone points I'm under the impression that CQD plates are a NSW thing. Originally Posted By LRB45:
Which is the preferred way to attach a sling to the DD rail? CQD or either the Knight or DD push button sling mounts? Also if you use the CQD mount do you use a HK hook or just thread the sling thru it? I used to run CQD but it got annoying. Clicking of the hook against the sling points and the odd angle that the hooks sit was meh. I did use elastic covers but pulling those on and off to get the sling on and off sucked as well. I run the DD mount. |
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Posted: 2/17/2014 6:56:15 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRB45:
Which is the preferred way to attach a sling to the DD rail? CQD or either the Knight or DD push button sling mounts? Also if you use the CQD mount do you use a HK hook or just thread the sling thru it? The CQDs (and HK hooks, for that matter) are germane to the Mk18. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 8:06:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lawdog-1]
[#41]
If you plan or want to run hooks on your sling, I would drop the HK hooks will come unhooked and run MASH hooks on your sling which is a safer idea.
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Posted: 2/17/2014 9:24:40 AM EDT
[#42]
QD swivels > hooks. YMMV but I just love the simplicity of QDs.
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Posted: 2/17/2014 10:33:58 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: QD swivels > hooks. YMMV but I just love the simplicity of QDs. This.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 11:29:39 AM EDT
[#44]
speaking of QDs, can the QD socket in the LMT buttstock be switched out for a Non rotating one?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 12:30:18 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By G_MAN:
speaking of QDs, can the QD socket in the LMT buttstock be switched out for a Non rotating one? I don't think so, I think it's molded in. When I ran the SOPMOD I ran the sling through the slots instead for the same reason, lack of rotation limiting. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 1:43:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drb022:
http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=224&bc=no#axzz2tYOpkkfC Looks as close to an A2 Flash Suppressor as you're gonna get with a muzzle brake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drb022:
Originally Posted By xoldsmugglerx:
I wish I could just use a flash hider, but since I am going to school in Nebraska and live in NJ, I will have to make this rifle ban compliant before I go home. If I permanently weld a muzzle brake, all I will have to do to make this gun legal in NJ is to put a fixed MOE stock on the carbine extension. I figured the battle comp would be a good choice because it looks A2ish. I am open to other brakes though if anyone knows a better one. http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=224&bc=no#axzz2tYOpkkfC Looks as close to an A2 Flash Suppressor as you're gonna get with a muzzle brake. Yeah I thought about those, but would rather have a more functional brake that is not as loud. Thank you for the suggestion, however. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2014 2:00:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Well I hate you guys now. I've broken down and decided I'm going with the su237 for an optic. I'm going to just bite the bullet and buy either a ta01 ECOS or ta31 ECOS. The Elcan is out of my league right now because I just bought the wife a new car. Guys with time behind both which do you like better? I've only looked through just a plain ta31 at my LGS. Is the ta31 worth the extra few hundred for the illuminated daytime reticule?
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Posted: 2/17/2014 3:28:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2014 3:38:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrentB17:
Well I hate you guys now. I've broken down and decided I'm going with the su237 for an optic. I'm going to just bite the bullet and buy either a ta01 ECOS or ta31 ECOS. The Elcan is out of my league right now because I just bought the wife a new car. Guys with time behind both which do you like better? I've only looked through just a plain ta31 at my LGS. Is the ta31 worth the extra few hundred for the illuminated daytime reticule? I suppose like anything else, it depends. I've got a "home made" SU-237 in addition to a lot of other ACOG's. I put an Insight MRDS on a TA01NSN. I like it as a quasi do everything sight. MRDS sight works well and of course the ACOG is an ACOG. I'm torn on if I'd like it better setup on a BAC ACOG. For anything fast or close I use the MRDS. For longer range work I use the ACOG so the daytime illumination would probably get in the way (over illumination) more than it would help. |
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Posted: 2/17/2014 3:52:58 PM EDT
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