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I thought @obiwanbonjovi made a great post using various ammo cans for mag storage. I picked up some PA120 cans and they do work great. a little heavy. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Ammo-and-mag-storage/16-752645/ |
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14 pmags and 14 D&H with ball ammo 1 Lancer AWM 20rd with Fed fusion Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Pachucko: What Pelican is that? Pelican 1200. https://www.pelican.com/us/en/product/cases/protector/1200 |
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Originally Posted By Rembold: How so? There is nothing that I said that is incorrect. The information is publicly available if you aren't lazy. I made an account to specifically address the incorrect "China" comments since it is a local business for me and I went to school with several of the owner's kids. I actually didn't even know that the Minneman family owned it until one of them started posting goofy video ads from MTM on Facebook via their personal account a few weeks ago. Manufacturer site for reference (assuming I can link it with a new account): http://www.mtmcase-gard.com/about.html Thats pretty cool actually. I have countless, and I do mean countless, MTM ammo boxes to store ammunition as well as some of their cans and crates. I love em. Good quality products for decent prices. |
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Originally Posted By NicoG: I've got a 40mm can, wonder how many mags would fit in it  this thread .... https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Ammo-and-mag-storage/16-752645/&page=1&anc=8170635#i8170635 turned me onto the 40mm ammo cans. LOVE 'EM! https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-pa120-40mm-ammo-can-used?a=1586611 |
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Originally Posted By NicoG: I've got a 40mm can, wonder how many mags would fit in it Plus, the 40mm cans work great for propping up your short AR15's in your safe.... Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rembold: How so? There is nothing that I said that is incorrect. The information is publicly available if you aren't lazy. I made an account to specifically address the incorrect "China" comments since it is a local business for me and I went to school with several of the owner's kids. I actually didn't even know that the Minneman family owned it until one of them started posting goofy video ads from MTM on Facebook via their personal account a few weeks ago. Manufacturer site for reference (assuming I can link it with a new account): http://www.mtmcase-gard.com/about.html With that, I will happily purchase their products. Welcome to ARFCOM. |
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Still room for more. Attached File and more then a few PM mags....... Attached File CD |
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Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Still room for more. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_1502_JPG-1990643.JPG and more then a few PM mags....... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_1591_JPG-1990640.JPG CD Nice supply of mags, but you better stock up on the Raman. |
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When you prepare for war.......... Attached File Attached File CD |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
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I've been buying the hell out of MTM's 50 Cal can combo that comes with four 100 round 223/5.56 ammo boxes. $29.49 on Sale at Midway. The case-gard 100's sell for $5.50 a piece, meaning the can is costing you only $7.50. A bargain in today's market since Midway sells the can alone for $13.00 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009919346?pid=943640 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1564120930 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1564262075 |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: When you prepare for war.......... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/F06B5645-62C0-4D09-9C8D-A8C2689268C2_JPG-1992882.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_1278_JPG-1992890.JPG CD @combat_diver What mags are you using for the m855a1 rounds? |
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Originally Posted By Ivan1: @combat_diver What mags are you using for the m855a1 rounds? EPM and PMag. However, I've only seen one gun that had issues with other generations with USGI mags. Other guns still shoot USGI mags (black, green and tan followers) with M855A1 without issue. CD |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: EPM and PMag. However, I've only seen one gun that had issues with other generations with USGI mags. Other guns still shoot USGI mags (black, green and tan followers) with M855A1 without issue. CD I thought the issue was eating feed ramps and not feeding issues? |
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Originally Posted By Ivan1: I thought the issue was eating feed ramps and not feeding issues? I do look at the feed lips as I inspect and gauge barrel erosion. Again have only seen one receiver who's had a feed lip issue. I replaced the barrel as the barrel extension was where the issue was. CD |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
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Originally Posted By DOG556: Anyone have a link for the ammo can capacity thread. With charts? @DOG556 These may be useful (a couple have other links too IIRC): https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/How-to-Fit-1000-Rounds-of-7-62X39-in-a-50-Cal-Ammo-Can/54-154289/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/How-do-you-store-your-AK-mags/55-166101/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Ammo-quantity-and-weight-answers/16-628973/ |
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Originally Posted By Ivan1: I thought the issue was eating feed ramps and not feeding issues? Originally Posted By Ivan1: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: EPM and PMag. However, I've only seen one gun that had issues with other generations with USGI mags. Other guns still shoot USGI mags (black, green and tan followers) with M855A1 without issue. I thought the issue was eating feed ramps and not feeding issues? My understanding is that the feedramp issue was significantly overblown based on misinterpretation of some testing that was done at Fort Bragg. Many people probably recall seeing photos of M4 feedramps that showed marks on and below them that were reported as gouging of the metal caused by M855A1. I don't remember the whole story, but I recall that the senior NCO involved in the testing (an Infantry master gunner) came out later and said that people had misunderstood their findings. It seems like there's a notable lack of any information about feedramp damage after that initial report several years ago, other than what keeps getting repeated in forums like this. This article is an example someone with real world experience shooting lots of M855A1 who has not see that kind of damage. That could be attributed to using correct magazines, but as this article points out, there doesn't seem to be any additional evidence beyond the original report. Note the section entitled "One Report Several Times Over," which talks about how all the online references point to the original feedramp photos from the first report: M855A1 5.56mm NATO Penetrator Ammo Feed Ramp Issues: Real, Hype or just Overblown? It certainly makes sense that the hard penetrator could be causing damage, or at least faster wear, to the feedramps, but it seems like that isn't really playing out in practice. Having said all that, it does sound like it's a legitimate issue for Marine Corps M27 IARs, which apparently have a slightly different geometry in the feed ramp area. My understanding is that they've mitigated the issue using M3 PMAGs with their higher feed angle, but I'm not familiar enough with that system or their data involving M855A1 to know for sure. |
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i'm a fan of consolidation and fully utilizing space, that's why the pelican 1200 case example is so great. zero wasted space i also would never buy or keep a product that i wouldn't use more than a few times a month. unless it was a kind of insurance/back up like medicine, fire extinguisher, a side arm, knives, tools etc therefore 30+ magazines would be overkill imo. what am i gonna do? engage in a firefight with the entire criminal population in my city? furthermore, it's going to be a bunch of magazines that will never be used and just sit there like wasted money. i want most of my assets to be fully liquid with a backup reserve in bitcoin and stocks a handy box of 10 full loaded magazines that i can grab and go is honestly a great solution. not too big or heavy, but enough to be prepared for anything. if we're being realistic, you don't even need a home, you can just live in an suv with a mattress in the back with your guns, a laptop. park at starbucks to use their internet. go to bathroom and shower at ymca/homeless shelters,etc |
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Originally Posted By carbface: i'm a fan of consolidation and fully utilizing space, that's why the pelican 1200 case example is so great. zero wasted space i also would never buy or keep a product that i wouldn't use more than a few times a month. unless it was a kind of insurance/back up like medicine, fire extinguisher, a side arm, knives, tools etc therefore 30+ magazines would be overkill imo. what am i gonna do? engage in a firefight with the entire criminal population in my city? furthermore, it's going to be a bunch of magazines that will never be used and just sit there like wasted money. i want most of my assets to be fully liquid with a backup reserve in bitcoin and stocks a handy box of 10 full loaded magazines that i can grab and go is honestly a great solution. not too big or heavy, but enough to be prepared for anything. if we're being realistic, you don't even need a home, you can just live in an suv with a mattress in the back with your guns, a laptop. park at starbucks to use their internet. go to bathroom and shower at ymca/homeless shelters,etc Yeah, I caught your original thread on living in the van. Enlightening. |
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| I store magazines in Pelican cases. For instance, 40 30rd Pmags will fit in a 1520, 10 USGI style in a 1200, and 170 30rd Pmags in a 1650. I can also get 15 CZ P10C 15rd magazines in a 1200, 6 Bulgarian AK waffle 30rd magazines in a 1200 as well. Expensive yes, but certainly durable containers for magazine storage. |
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I see most people are storing USGI mags Would be great to have some more Pmag options If anyone has weight on these cans loaded, that would be great too. I like the idea of storring 40+ mags, but with the can and mags, thats closing in on 40lbs, not exactly super portable, but it would be great if someone could weigh the cans filled. |
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Originally Posted By H4ppyB34r: I see most people are storing USGI mags Would be great to have some more Pmag options If anyone has weight on these cans loaded, that would be great too. I like the idea of storring 40+ mags, but with the can and mags, thats closing in on 40lbs, not exactly super portable, but it would be great if someone could weigh the cans filled. If you look at my picture a few post from the top of the page you'll see I'm stocking half and half. I like pmags but I know the metal mags will be fine 50 years from now. |
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The usgi vs Pmag wasn't a riff at anyone, but I suspect that I may be the minority here. I have maybe 15 USGI or other metal mags total, by far, the vast majority of my stash is Pmags. |
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Originally Posted By DOG556: Start lifting weights. LOL, im a home builder/General Contractor, I suspect that I lift more "weights" than most on ARFRCOM I was trying to get at portability If I'm stacking nags and they're going to sit there in the bottom of the safe, im not worried about what it weighs... But if I'm thinking I'll grab a few cases and run for a quick range session or whatever, and 40-50lbs, there may be better options for organization. I have some Esstac 10 mag pouches, and they work great, stack up in the safe and easy to hand someone a bag and send them off to the truck. Even my 6 year old daughter can carry 2 of them |
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