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7/21/2025 2:55:33 PM EDT
Normally I'd use PPS-43 mags but with the 147gr projo to OAL is significantly longer.

I've been using normal AR mags which have about 0.46" of extra space in front of the nose of the projo. If rounds get knocked forward they can cause feeding issues.






Anyone run into a similar issue and find a solution?
7/21/2025 3:11:02 PM EDT
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I dont know of an existing solution but I bet someone could 3d print in insert similar to this to fit an AR mag.

Patriot Valley Arms - 6mm Dasher 6BR Mag kit
7/21/2025 3:12:38 PM EDT
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Is that 7.65x25 loaded with .30cal rifle bullets?  Neat.

Something you could try is design a customer shorter follower, or just cut the front off the current one, and then design an insert to put down the front of the mag to fill up that extra space.

There's also this, but it looks like it just leaves enough space for the round nose ammo.  Might be able to mod it further on the front spine insert for your needs:

Converting a 9MM Endo Mag for use with KAK Industry 7.62x25 Tokarev and 22 TCM AR15

7/21/2025 3:22:18 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Magazines/17/
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7/21/2025 3:46:50 PM EDT
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Thank you for your immese help. Solved my problem!


Your link is useless to me.
7/21/2025 3:50:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
Is that 7.65x25 loaded with .30cal rifle bullets?  Neat.

Something you could try is design a customer shorter follower, or just cut the front off the current one, and then design an insert to put down the front of the mag to fill up that extra space.

There's also this, but it looks like it just leaves enough space for the round nose ammo.  Might be able to mod it further on the front spine insert for your needs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6innQJoh80
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Yes sir! 1040FPS with 147gr projos. I run out of case capacity around 1000FPS with 180s. It's been a difficult road to finding a powder that will fully burn in 8" and cycle the action being a DI build. OAL of the cartridge is 1.700".

I looked at some of that type of mod stuffing something into the front spine. I just started the 3D printer with a 3 piece mag body that hopefully will work. Used the Waffle 2.0 mag as my base, modified the STEP files to take up room in the front and modified the follower. Was hoping for something off the shelf but if I have to print a dozen of these (at 21hrs a pop for all 6 pieces) so be it. I'll release the prints on the Odd Sea if it works.
7/21/2025 3:59:12 PM EDT
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Thank you for your immese help. Solved my problem!


Your link is useless to me.
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Dudes kinda like the sub forum Nazi.
7/21/2025 4:00:18 PM EDT
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Yes sir! 1040FPS with 147gr projos. I run out of case capacity around 1000FPS with 180s. It's been a difficult road to finding a powder that will fully burn in 8" and cycle the action being a DI build. OAL of the cartridge is 1.700".

I looked at some of that type of mod stuffing something into the front spine. I just started the 3D printer with a 3 piece mag body that hopefully will work. Used the Waffle 2.0 mag as my base, modified the STEP files to take up room in the front and modified the follower. Was hoping for something off the shelf but if I have to print a dozen of these (at 21hrs a pop for all 6 pieces) so be it. I'll release the prints on the Odd Sea if it works.
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Very nice.

It's a shame the Colt MARS program never really took off.  The 5.56x30mm round made for that also had an OAL of 1.7", would be perfect for this.


7/21/2025 4:05:32 PM EDT
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Dudes kinda like the sub forum Nazi.
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Figured that with a reply worthy of the general discussion area. That shit doesn't fly in the AK area which is nice.

To bad he isn't helpful in any way.
7/21/2025 4:06:29 PM EDT
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Very nice.

It's a shame the Colt MARS program never really took off.  The 5.56x30mm round made for that also had an OAL of 1.7", would be perfect for this.


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That would work out about perfect!

I'll update as parts come off the printer tomorrow afternoon. I may try some in resin too.
7/21/2025 5:57:33 PM EDT
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Your link is useless to me.
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He is telling you you should have posted in the magazine forum.

7/21/2025 7:02:20 PM EDT
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He is telling you you should have posted in the magazine forum.

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Cool.

Any input on the topic?
7/22/2025 8:42:11 AM EDT
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Looks like heavy metal group may have mags/a solution as well. He is putting together some ammo to test.
7/26/2025 10:39:34 PM EDT
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My prototype works but has a flaw in the follower that allows it to get tilted and jam around 15/20 rounds

Waiting to see what Tim has. I have too many projects to do to get back to mine right now.
10/15/2025 1:40:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TonyRumore][Edited] [#14]
Here's a pic of an old 1998 Tromix 50AE magazine.  It might work with a hump added on one side of the follower to double stack the rounds.
This design originated from American Firearms, 1994.

Tony



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