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Posted: 7/26/2020 7:33:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: That's what happens when you start a clone build in the middle of a panic  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/553401D0-9757-4023-8D4C-E8D1CABCF3A6_jpe-1520572.JPG Not a Gen 1  That's what happens when you start a clone build in the middle of a panic You'll find one eventually. I was giving you a hard time. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:38:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/553401D0-9757-4023-8D4C-E8D1CABCF3A6_jpe-1520572.JPG Funny enough the CTR is way more common and would be more “clone correct” than a non gen 1 SOPMOD. Not that buttstocks really matter a whole lot since it’s one of those things that gets swapped out and replaced by the end user a lot, even in non SOF units too. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:03:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: Funny enough the CTR is way more common and would be more “clone correct” than a non gen 1 SOPMOD. Not that buttstocks really matter a whole lot since it’s one of those things that gets swapped out and replaced by the end user a lot, even in non SOF units too. I swapped mine out a lot, from factory colt to SOPMOD 
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Posted: 7/27/2020 10:16:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: You'll find one eventually. I was giving you a hard time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58021/553401D0-9757-4023-8D4C-E8D1CABCF3A6_jpe-1520572.JPG Not a Gen 1 That's what happens when you start a clone build in the middle of a panic You'll find one eventually. I was giving you a hard time. No worries  Originally Posted By StealthGuy: Funny enough the CTR is way more common and would be more “clone correct” than a non gen 1 SOPMOD. Not that buttstocks really matter a whole lot since it’s one of those things that gets swapped out and replaced by the end user a lot, even in non SOF units too. Honestly that's why I decided to ditch the CTR. I've been "Magpul all the things!" for so long I wanted to do something different. I did order 10 MCT Pmags, though
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:38:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: No worries Honestly that's why I decided to ditch the CTR. I've been "Magpul all the things!" for so long I wanted to do something different. I did order 10 MCT Pmags, though |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:46:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I have a picture of a MARSOC gat w/ the gen 2 sopmod. They just arnt typically seen, but who am I to judge when I'm using the bastardized SOPMOD that is the B5 Bravo and a BCM Grip on my CQBR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: No worries Honestly that's why I decided to ditch the CTR. I've been "Magpul all the things!" for so long I wanted to do something different. I did order 10 MCT Pmags, though Oh good, that means it will go with my KAC ambi-selector 
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:08:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: StealthGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I have a picture of a MARSOC gat w/ the gen 2 sopmod. They just arnt typically seen, but who am I to judge when I'm using the bastardized SOPMOD that is the B5 Bravo and a BCM Grip on my CQBR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: No worries Honestly that's why I decided to ditch the CTR. I've been "Magpul all the things!" for so long I wanted to do something different. I did order 10 MCT Pmags, though I’ve tried and used just about everything on my clone when I see it in a pic. I have a box full of shit. Been meaning to try a BCM KAG on mine lately. Might just pick one up now. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:09:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: JSchell1309]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SMFdarkangel: Current production RC2's are all NSN marked. It's just a matter of time before we see photos of them ITW. Rattle can and rock it!  Haven't been in here in a while. I been going back and forth on getting a RC1 for clone correct vs a RC2 just for the updates on the can and lower price. I didn't know they were marking RC2 with NSN now. Did the RC2 get picked up for a contract? |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:35:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By allensaldi: I might be able to help you out Awesome shoot me a DM if able. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 2:25:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Haven't been in here in a while. I been going back and forth on getting a RC1 for clone correct vs a RC2 just for the updates on the can and lower price. I didn't know they were marking RC2 with NSN now. Did the RC2 get picked up for a contract? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Originally Posted By SMFdarkangel: Current production RC2's are all NSN marked. It's just a matter of time before we see photos of them ITW. Rattle can and rock it! Haven't been in here in a while. I been going back and forth on getting a RC1 for clone correct vs a RC2 just for the updates on the can and lower price. I didn't know they were marking RC2 with NSN now. Did the RC2 get picked up for a contract? Price and the occasions when RCs could be had for less than the RC2 aside, they didn't really update anything meaningful. They added the crenulated endcap and removed the vents on the blast baffle; arguably, the latter not necessarily being an improvement because it creates more backpressure. From what SF has stated, the main difference between the RC and RC2 is in the level of manual vs. automated welding/manufacturing, with the RC originally requiring much more human involvement and manual welding, whereas with the RC2 they streamlined and automated the majority of the manufacturing process. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but that was the basis given by SF when lowering the price on the RC2 (i.e. making it cheaper to manufacture). In other words, if you're concerned that by getting the RC you'd be missing out on meaningful updates or improvements, I don't really think that's the case. If anything, I prefer the older design with vented baffles. Of course, now that SF seems to be putting the RC2-style non-vented baffle into RCs, it would appear the only real difference now is the endcap. As far as I know, the RC2 hasn't been awarded any contracts, and the RC is still the official SOCOM can. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 2:52:42 PM EST
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:29:22 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: I've tried and used just about everything on my clone when I see it in a pic. I have a box full of shit. Been meaning to try a BCM KAG on mine lately. Might just pick one up now. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:38:44 PM EST
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:40:31 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thorn653: So.... Does this mean we can clone with Geissele rails now? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31244898-8563135-image-a-66_159585686776-1521768.JPG |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:41:34 PM EST
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:42:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: SMFdarkangel]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Haven't been in here in a while. I been going back and forth on getting a RC1 for clone correct vs a RC2 just for the updates on the can and lower price. I didn't know they were marking RC2 with NSN now. Did the RC2 get picked up for a contract? ETA: Looks like @krdt beat me to it. Sorry for any confusion my post generated. RC1 is still the program of record for SOCOM. RC2 holds no active contracts that I'm aware of. However, the RC2 cans were assigned NSN's last summer. This essentially means they are easier for units to purchase now. Pure speculation but we may see some ITW because of that. RC1 and NT4 are still the clone correct cans. The only tangible benefit of the RC2 is price and availability IMO. Buy whichever you want. I have several of each but prefer the RC1. Not sure why they changed the blast baffle on the RC2. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:43:14 PM EST
[#17]
Sooooo... Any of you guys out there have an Aimpoint or Aimpoint/Wilcox you want to sell? Cash waiting here. Darn MK18 has been sitting for the longest time without an optic.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:44:23 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thorn653: Another view. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31245302-8563135-image-a-54_159585509181-1521774.JPG |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:54:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Doesn't even appear to be a mk16 rail. I only see one mounting screw on that rail as opposed to two. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By thorn653: Another view. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31245302-8563135-image-a-54_159585509181-1521774.JPG Looks like it's Cerakoted/painted to match the receivers, too. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 3:59:53 PM EST
[#20]
I’ve been searching the EE for a spare colt gov barrel to have cut down. Used barrels for 350. My jaw dropped.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:07:22 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ivan1: I’ve been searching the EE for a spare colt gov barrel to have cut down. Used barrels for 350. My jaw dropped. Its that time....I just got rid of 2 colt lowers (before colt announced sales again) and bought a KAC SR15. I love and hate this time of year. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:14:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Its that time....I just got rid of 2 colt lowers (before colt announced sales again) and bought a KAC SR15. I love and hate this time of year. I almost wanna sell some things but then I’ll regret it. I do have a couple of pistols I would get rid of. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:07:08 PM EST
[#23]
How many guys on here are running Acogs on their mk18?
Just curious because I run mine with one and majority of pics have Elcan DR (which I’ll one day get) or tan EoTech. I like mine with the Acog setup since I’ve got enough time behind it to somewhat comfortably shoot using the Bindon aiming concept. I just wanna know what others think about it. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:07:49 PM EST
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:18:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: -KentuckyWindage-]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Looks like it's Cerakoted/painted to match the receivers, too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: Originally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By thorn653: Another view. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31245302-8563135-image-a-54_159585509181-1521774.JPG Looks like it's Cerakoted/painted to match the receivers, too. MLok handguards are |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:59:39 PM EST
[#26]
Are we sure that's not another Instagram star/bandit jumping into the ranks of DHS like what happened during the riots in LA? Those pictures appear to be in Portland. Why is he the only one carrying a long gun; all others appear to be non-lethal crowd control devices?
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Posted: 7/27/2020 9:57:38 PM EST
[#27]
Swapped out the dual fire for the m300. Who needs 1500 lumens anyways.
 
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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:35:21 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thorn653: Another view. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31245302-8563135-image-a-54_159585509181-1521774.JPG As mentioned not SOCOM. Those are US Marshall SOG (read the shoulder patch) CD |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 7:03:44 AM EST
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Posted: 7/28/2020 7:19:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: triode]
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Posted: 7/28/2020 9:08:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: allensaldi]
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Posted: 7/28/2020 9:39:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zakk_Wylde_470]
[#32]
I went ahead and ordered one
 I've talked myself out of using my new FDE receivers for this build. It'll still be on Aero Precision receivers but at least they'll be the right color I think I've devised a nice plan rebuild my existing rifle on the new receivers and LMT stock, then sell it to fund an M4A1 Block II upper
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Posted: 7/28/2020 10:33:11 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thorn653: Another view. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31245302-8563135-image-a-54_159585509181-1521774.JPG Anyone have experience shooting a lower 1/3rd, like the EXPS pictured, with a mask? I have only tried with taller mounts. I would think a L1/3 height would be just barely too short to use with a mask on. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 10:49:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Anyone have experience shooting a lower 1/3rd, like the EXPS pictured, with a mask? I have only tried with taller mounts. I would think a L1/3 height would be just barely too short to use with a mask on. Yeah, it sucks. But everything sucks about CBR Gear. The ADM riser is a good deal for EXPS’s. They aren’t issued but they’re used. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 11:07:14 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Anyone have experience shooting a lower 1/3rd, like the EXPS pictured, with a mask? I have only tried with taller mounts. I would think a L1/3 height would be just barely too short to use with a mask on. Its doable. You can use you mask behind absolute comp m2 also. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 11:25:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: No. Thats not SOCOM. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By thorn653: So.... Does this mean we can clone with Geissele rails now? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/413870/31244898-8563135-image-a-66_159585686776-1521768.JPG And they're not Geissele rails.... |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 11:29:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: And they're not Geissele rails.... Also pretty sure that’s a chick |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 12:55:54 PM EST
[#38]
Crappy cellphone teaser picture, sold mine second kidney. Lower was reanodized has some Vietnam beating on it.
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Posted: 7/28/2020 12:57:44 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw: Crappy cellphone teaser picture, sold mine second kidney. Lower was reanodized has some Vietnam beating on it. https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=12FOk14qapBvviKX2_RKO7gNmo4Xsjn60 Neat! Who did your lower? |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 12:59:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: Macpw]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Neat! Who did your lower? Colt in 1972  Lower is from a m16a1 that was brought back from vietnam with other guns, hydras, xm16e1..... |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 1:08:12 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw: Colt in 1972 Lower is from a m16a1 that was brought back from vietnam with other guns, hydras, xm16e1.....https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mEUBkzQhk4DcJrLNHI2P3YAiAvuJi3zX Lol! The first pic looked like an engraved third pin. Super cool! |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 2:20:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Price and the occasions when RCs could be had for less than the RC2 aside, they didn't really update anything meaningful. They added the crenulated endcap and removed the vents on the blast baffle; arguably, the latter not necessarily being an improvement because it creates more backpressure. From what SF has stated, the main difference between the RC and RC2 is in the level of manual vs. automated welding/manufacturing, with the RC originally requiring much more human involvement and manual welding, whereas with the RC2 they streamlined and automated the majority of the manufacturing process. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but that was the basis given by SF when lowering the price on the RC2 (i.e. making it cheaper to manufacture). In other words, if you're concerned that by getting the RC you'd be missing out on meaningful updates or improvements, I don't really think that's the case. If anything, I prefer the older design with vented baffles. Of course, now that SF seems to be putting the RC2-style non-vented baffle into RCs, it would appear the only real difference now is the endcap. As far as I know, the RC2 hasn't been awarded any contracts, and the RC is still the official SOCOM can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Price and the occasions when RCs could be had for less than the RC2 aside, they didn't really update anything meaningful. They added the crenulated endcap and removed the vents on the blast baffle; arguably, the latter not necessarily being an improvement because it creates more backpressure. From what SF has stated, the main difference between the RC and RC2 is in the level of manual vs. automated welding/manufacturing, with the RC originally requiring much more human involvement and manual welding, whereas with the RC2 they streamlined and automated the majority of the manufacturing process. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but that was the basis given by SF when lowering the price on the RC2 (i.e. making it cheaper to manufacture). In other words, if you're concerned that by getting the RC you'd be missing out on meaningful updates or improvements, I don't really think that's the case. If anything, I prefer the older design with vented baffles. Of course, now that SF seems to be putting the RC2-style non-vented baffle into RCs, it would appear the only real difference now is the endcap. As far as I know, the RC2 hasn't been awarded any contracts, and the RC is still the official SOCOM can. Originally Posted By SMFdarkangel: ETA: Looks like @krdt beat me to it. Sorry for any confusion my post generated. RC1 is still the program of record for SOCOM. RC2 holds no active contracts that I'm aware of. However, the RC2 cans were assigned NSN's last summer. This essentially means they are easier for units to purchase now. Pure speculation but we may see some ITW because of that. RC1 and NT4 are still the clone correct cans. The only tangible benefit of the RC2 is price and availability IMO. Buy whichever you want. I have several of each but prefer the RC1. Not sure why they changed the blast baffle on the RC2. Thank you both for the information. Just seeing if I missed anything. Still kicking myself for sleeping on those $600-$750ish RC1s from over a year ago. Now the best bet is the golden coupon shit and it's still $1k+ after transfer. That's the main reason I was leaning RC2, ease of picking one up and price. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 3:51:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Thank you both for the information. Just seeing if I missed anything. Still kicking myself for sleeping on those $600-$750ish RC1s from over a year ago. Now the best bet is the golden coupon shit and it's still $1k+ after transfer. That's the main reason I was leaning RC2, ease of picking one up and price. I've been kicking myself too.. I bought an RC2 right before those were released thinking I wouldn't be able to get an RC. Then when they had those RC's for cheap I never bought one because I had the RC2. Eventually clone disease kicks in and you still end up buying the RC. I just picked up on of those coupons and will be ordering one soon lol. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 8:21:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Price and the occasions when RCs could be had for less than the RC2 aside, they didn't really update anything meaningful. They added the crenulated endcap and removed the vents on the blast baffle; arguably, the latter not necessarily being an improvement because it creates more backpressure. From what SF has stated, the main difference between the RC and RC2 is in the level of manual vs. automated welding/manufacturing, with the RC originally requiring much more human involvement and manual welding, whereas with the RC2 they streamlined and automated the majority of the manufacturing process. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but that was the basis given by SF when lowering the price on the RC2 (i.e. making it cheaper to manufacture). In other words, if you're concerned that by getting the RC you'd be missing out on meaningful updates or improvements, I don't really think that's the case. If anything, I prefer the older design with vented baffles. Of course, now that SF seems to be putting the RC2-style non-vented baffle into RCs, it would appear the only real difference now is the endcap. As far as I know, the RC2 hasn't been awarded any contracts, and the RC is still the official SOCOM can. Forgive an ignorant question, but is the RC available to special order through a dealer or is it just hang on tight and wait to see if they show up in stock? |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 8:26:42 PM EST
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Posted: 7/28/2020 9:11:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mra4523: Forgive an ignorant question, but is the RC available to special order through a dealer or is it just hang on tight and wait to see if they show up in stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mra4523: Originally Posted By krdt: Price and the occasions when RCs could be had for less than the RC2 aside, they didn't really update anything meaningful. They added the crenulated endcap and removed the vents on the blast baffle; arguably, the latter not necessarily being an improvement because it creates more backpressure. From what SF has stated, the main difference between the RC and RC2 is in the level of manual vs. automated welding/manufacturing, with the RC originally requiring much more human involvement and manual welding, whereas with the RC2 they streamlined and automated the majority of the manufacturing process. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but that was the basis given by SF when lowering the price on the RC2 (i.e. making it cheaper to manufacture). In other words, if you're concerned that by getting the RC you'd be missing out on meaningful updates or improvements, I don't really think that's the case. If anything, I prefer the older design with vented baffles. Of course, now that SF seems to be putting the RC2-style non-vented baffle into RCs, it would appear the only real difference now is the endcap. As far as I know, the RC2 hasn't been awarded any contracts, and the RC is still the official SOCOM can. Forgive an ignorant question, but is the RC available to special order through a dealer or is it just hang on tight and wait to see if they show up in stock? They can be special ordered. I think Presample Depot, Black Phase Tactical, and a few others will do it. Or get a golden ticket and order directly from SF. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 9:24:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: They can be special ordered. I think Presample Depot, Black Phase Tactical, and a few others will do it. Or get a golden ticket and order directly from SF. Nice. I’ll reach out to Black Phase, I used them recently for block II barrel and they were extremely prompt on everything. Thanks for the heads up |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 9:30:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: SMFdarkangel]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: They can be special ordered. I think Presample Depot, Black Phase Tactical, and a few others will do it. Or get a golden ticket and order directly from SF. Plus one! Presample Depot hooked me up with a SOCOM762-RC. They can special order the 556-RC as well. Eric's a member here and a class act. Haven't dealt with BPT so I can't speak to that. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 10:22:27 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mra4523: Nice. I’ll reach out to Black Phase, I used them recently for block II barrel and they were extremely prompt on everything. Thanks for the heads up Cory that owns BPT is a great guy and runs a great small business. I've bought many clone parts from him over the past 3 years, most recently a knurled AEM5. PSD runs a great shop as well. You cannot go wrong buying through either option. |
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Posted: 7/28/2020 10:27:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macpw: Colt in 1972 Lower is from a m16a1 that was brought back from vietnam with other guns, hydras, xm16e1.....https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1mEUBkzQhk4DcJrLNHI2P3YAiAvuJi3zX Probably the most original and 100% clone correct rifle here
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