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Posted: 9/15/2020 11:57:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: You should consider taking a test for color blindness. I marked the ones I believe to be FDE. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/28BA9817-6A94-4297-8AF3-F47B412AD3A6_jpe-1592848.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By allensaldi: I have more RIS II than that .... lol Best part, not one is FDE. They are all black.  You should consider taking a test for color blindness. I marked the ones I believe to be FDE. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/28BA9817-6A94-4297-8AF3-F47B412AD3A6_jpe-1592848.JPG I think hes saying all of the ones he has are black not the stickman ones. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:05:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: R0CKETMAN]
[#2]
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I think hes saying all of the ones he has are black not the stickman ones. yep |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:18:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I think i'd rather them release the RIS III. I just never got behind the hype of the GL/SSC This |
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USA
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:24:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: Caeser2001]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By allensaldi: When was this? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By allensaldi: Originally Posted By Caeser2001: They sold a bunch off a long time ago, I only remember because I regretted not buying one. When was this? 2009, 2010, 2011 something like that, but I decided for the build I was doing to get a DD Lite instead Edit: Hmmm, maybe I’m thinking of the MK18FSP. Looks like there only 25 sold commercially. I do remember waffling back and forth between those two and still ended up with the Lite. I should’ve got both  https://soldiersystems.net/2016/10/20/rare-sighting-of-a-daniel-defense-glssc-ris-ii/ |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:30:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: I think hes saying all of the ones he has are black not the stickman ones.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:33:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: allensaldi]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: This You guys are referring to this correct? If so, I saw this while I was there. It's cool but I think it needs to lose the front rails and have the profile changed a bit. It just doesn't feel proper when you're holding it. Honestly, it felt like they rushed this design a bit. I think if they took a little more time and lost how the lower rail is fixed with two screws on each side (make the rail one piece and then bolt up to the collar) it would have been a winner. There is no doubt in my mind that their bolt up system is the best design out there.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:39:44 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By allensaldi: You guys are referring to this correct? If so, I saw this while I was there. It's cool but I think it needs to lose the front rails and have the profile changed a bit. It just doesn't feel proper when you're holding it. Honestly, it felt like they rushed this design a bit. I think if they took a little more time and lost how the lower rail is fixed with two screws on each side (make the rail one piece and then bolt up to the collar) it would have been a winner. There is no doubt in my mind that their bolt up system is the best design out there. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50346188617_9a9a03abc8_o.jpg any machinist could crank these out if you gave them a regular ris II right now. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:42:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2Keylows]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: I think i'd rather them release the RIS III. I just never got behind the hype of the GL/SSC I forgot about that one. Pretty cool to see the incremental changes on the Ris. I'll still consider both rail concepts as unicorns, until I see one in person. ETA: same pic posted above. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 2:31:23 PM EST
[#9]
Anyone got a Tango Down FDE Stubby QD laying around and want to trade for a Full Size FDE QD Surefire version? I don't user the light switch/pad thingie anymore so would rather go with the Stubby...
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Posted: 9/17/2020 2:43:44 AM EST
[#10]
Can anyone school me on clone correct lasers? I typically don't care about sacrificing modern technology for being clone correct, but I'm wondering if the laser may be the time to go modern. I'm just getting into NV so its all very foreign.
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Posted: 9/17/2020 3:53:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By allensaldi: ... 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:21:49 AM EST
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Figured you guys would be the best to ask. I got a MK18 FDE and M4A1 FDE but they don’t look FDE to me. I emailed DD, sent them pics and they said it was a correct shade and there is some variation. It looks like a light black to me?
  
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:24:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Figured you guys would be the best to ask. I got a MK18 FDE and M4A1 FDE but they don’t look FDE to me. I emailed DD, sent them pics and they said it was a correct shade and there is some variation. It looks like a light black to me? https://i.imgur.com/37FRO6B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2LNbada.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4X3ngWb.jpg Looks normal, DD RIS II rails vary in shades of brown just like your shit does. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:56:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Figured you guys would be the best to ask. I got a MK18 FDE and M4A1 FDE but they don’t look FDE to me. I emailed DD, sent them pics and they said it was a correct shade and there is some variation. It looks like a light black to me? https://i.imgur.com/37FRO6B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2LNbada.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4X3ngWb.jpg They look normal to me as well. They have been that chocolate brown color for a while now. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 9:10:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thanos7856: They look normal to me as well. They have been that chocolate brown color for a while now. This. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 9:58:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: billytehbob]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dafro: Can anyone school me on clone correct lasers? I typically don't care about sacrificing modern technology for being clone correct, but I'm wondering if the laser may be the time to go modern. I'm just getting into NV so its all very foreign. LA-5, PEQ-15, mayyybe a PEQ-16?, and the ATPIAL-C. There's also the NGAL, |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:21:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: wissota4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: LA-5, PEQ-15, mayyybe a PEQ-16?, and the ATPIAL-C. There's also the NGAL, which isn't clone correct, and I also don't know where that's at as far as being fielded, someone more knowledgeable can chime in on it. NGAL, LA5 variants, PEQ15, PEQ15A, PEQ16,MAWL and last resort, ATPIALC if that's all you're able to get. Eta PEQ2 |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:16:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: LA-5, PEQ-15, mayyybe a PEQ-16?, and the ATPIAL-C. There's also the NGAL, which isn't clone correct, and I also don't know where that's at as far as being fielded, someone more knowledgeable can chime in on it. NGALs are clone correct. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:38:16 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ericoak: Figured you guys would be the best to ask. I got a MK18 FDE and M4A1 FDE but they don’t look FDE to me. I emailed DD, sent them pics and they said it was a correct shade and there is some variation. It looks like a light black to me? https://i.imgur.com/37FRO6B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2LNbada.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4X3ngWb.jpg Looks brown to me, just dark. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 4:27:15 PM EST
[#20]
MK18 challenge...
Post a pic of the lightest shade of RiS II that you know of. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 5:03:32 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: NGALs are clone correct. Corrected then, just haven't seen too many of them, let alone any on MK18s or in the wild. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 5:20:15 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: MK18 challenge... Post a pic of the lightest shade of RiS II that you know of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: MK18 challenge... Post a pic of the lightest shade of RiS II that you know of.  I believe this was pulled from CD. Very bottom center is my favorite color.  Originally Posted By billytehbob: Corrected then, just haven't seen too many of them, let alone any on MK18s or in the wild. Couple of them posted a couple pages back.  
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Posted: 9/17/2020 5:58:59 PM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2020 7:01:26 PM EST
[#24]
Probably one of the lightest I've seen in a photo but very much based on lighting. Almost bought it, but if I recall, it had some pretty good dings, the seller wanted a premium and later photos in different lighting showed it wasn't quite as crazy light as it first appeared. Still, pretty nifty looking based on these pics.
  One of the NSWC/Crane URGs someone was trying to sell on IG:  Certainly not an extreme example, but my lightest one isn't too bad:   When new:  |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 7:11:32 PM EST
[#25]
Definitely depends on lighting. Both of these pics are the same rail.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 7:18:00 PM EST
[#26]
bUt wHaT iF YoUR eOteCh BrEaks?
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Posted: 9/17/2020 7:19:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: DeputySteel]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 100roundclipazine: See heres the thing skip. (its not a real su230) Standard reticle elcan, laser engraved and UID added to resemble su230. I have had 2 previous su230s and I reckon im the only person in North America who prefers the commercial over the mil reticle. Comparing the engraving to the real su230 it is imperceptible as far as I can tell. Only way to know is to look through the glass.  Also, I love Marty Robbins. I looked at my SU-230 and I was like  I don't mind salty though. That's some amazing work! Who did the engraving/UID? I would be interested in getting my Eotech done
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USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 7:31:20 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Looks normal, DD RIS II rails vary in shades of brown just like your shit does. So when am i going to find a green one with little corn yellow and peanut brown spots all over it?
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:39:30 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: https://i.imgur.com/RY3RJMXh.jpg?1 I believe this was pulled from CD. Very bottom center is my favorite color. https://i.imgur.com/eQ8teh2.jpg Couple of them posted a couple pages back. https://i.imgur.com/BjMFhQC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/itOkqMv.jpg I’m just fucking blind then
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 9:24:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: MK18 challenge... Post a pic of the lightest shade of RiS II that you know of. I have a buddy with this blonde one. Taken off a surplus upper 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2020 9:41:12 PM EST
[#31]
78staff. I sent you Email I have a new Short Tango Down that will trade you.
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:52:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryThat was my face too |
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Posted: 9/18/2020 2:05:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 100roundclipazine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeputySteel: I looked at my SU-230 and I was like I don't mind salty though. That's some amazing work! Who did the engraving/UID? I would be interested in getting my Eotech doneBeen trying to find that out myself. The guy I bought it from said the guy before him had it done. No clue man. For all I know Carolina could have done it as a custom job. I might show them a pic and ask if they remember doing it. The UID was a Carolina SU230 UID, the usual. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2020 2:35:25 AM EST
[#34]
Is there any difference between the uppers I posted besides one being stripped? Both are supposed to have a .070 gas port size. But one has Daniel Defense in small lettering and other has laser engraving of caliber and MK18 on side. Thanks!
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/mk18-stripped-socom-upper-receiver-w-handguard-only-prod81194.aspx https://danieldefense.com/mk18-upper-receiver-group.html |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2020 2:58:59 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aquickquestion: Is there any difference between the uppers I posted besides one being stripped? Both are supposed to have a .070 gas port size. But one has Daniel Defense in small lettering and other has laser engraving of caliber and MK18 on side. Thanks! https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/mk18-stripped-socom-upper-receiver-w-handguard-only-prod81194.aspx https://danieldefense.com/mk18-upper-receiver-group.html Looks like the stripped one has a standard dust cover and the one from DD has a plastic one. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2020 5:33:11 AM EST
[#36]
So they are the same just with different laser engraving and dust covers? For some reason I though the one from DD site was Mil/LEO only or something
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Posted: 9/18/2020 5:45:15 AM EST
[#37]
The Brownells URG also has the correct Mk12 gas block, whereas the complete URGs direct from DD are pinned. The Brownells version is a "custom URG" built specifically for them with the correct Mk12 block and the hideous "Mk18" laser engraving removed, the one from DD is their regular commercial version.
Neither are "LEO/Mil only." |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2020 5:49:56 AM EST
[#38]
Funny enough, the one with the big billboard on the side is the only one I’ve seen issued out of the two.
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Posted: 9/18/2020 6:58:27 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: Funny enough, the one with the big billboard on the side is the only one I’ve seen issued out of the two. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/19/2020 8:50:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: AZ_SBR]
[#40]
No connection to the seller, but EE listing with [currently] six LMT Gen 1 SOPMOD buttstocks in supposedly excellent condition. Also some well-used Colt marked and unmarked N1s + B5 Gov Contract SOPMOD stocks in that same posting.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/19/2020 11:04:00 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: That sounds about right. Add to that, all lowers are legit 3rd pin M4A1 Govt Property marked, barrels and cans never get shot out, and a gaggle of nubile vixens as range attendants... I'd be about set :D. Where did you source the barrel? Assuming it wasn't purchased used, it sounds like you might have gotten some old stock. The first confirmed .070" ported DD barrel I got was inspected 03/17 and they weren't really widely available until summer/fall 2017. The 3 DD 10.3s I've gotten since have all been .070", with the most recent one direct from DD in December 2019. So, unless they've changed something recently on the sly, that's probably a pre-2017 barrel. Dad had the DD barrel ordered (new) and then brought everything over so I don't know where he got it from... "Rainier" I want to say is where he got it from but that is only a guess... I know he paid a hair over $400 for it which was shocking to me for a non FSB stripped barrel but hey... he wanted a top shelf rifle so I didn't ask him where from, etc... But I will ask him as to answer your question... And I take back anything negative I said about that barrel... It's pretty awesome even with the .081 gas port size and was easily tameable with a Kaw Valley H3 buffer and a JP "Enhanced" flat ground wire buffer spring... Slings the weak sauce to hot sauce ammo between 2:30-3:15 in neat little piles 3' away. Damn "cloverleaf" accurate too with the heavy pills (69-77grain.) He loves it so it's a winner all the way around. Used a Strike Industries 4 prong flash hider that dubs as a wire cutter and glass break as well which I thought is pretty cool... |
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Posted: 9/19/2020 11:20:38 AM EST
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Posted: 9/19/2020 4:17:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmreagan: Dad had the DD barrel ordered (new) and then brought everything over so I don't know where he got it from... "Rainier" I want to say is where he got it from but that is only a guess... I know he paid a hair over $400 for it which was shocking to me for a non FSB stripped barrel but hey... he wanted a top shelf rifle so I didn't ask him where from, etc... But I will ask him as to answer your question... And I take back anything negative I said about that barrel... It's pretty awesome even with the .081 gas port size and was easily tameable with a Kaw Valley H3 buffer and a JP "Enhanced" flat ground wire buffer spring... Slings the weak sauce to hot sauce ammo between 2:30-3:15 in neat little piles 3' away. Damn "cloverleaf" accurate too with the heavy pills (69-77grain.) He loves it so it's a winner all the way around. Used a Strike Industries 4 prong flash hider that dubs as a wire cutter and glass break as well which I thought is pretty cool... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmreagan: Originally Posted By krdt: That sounds about right. Add to that, all lowers are legit 3rd pin M4A1 Govt Property marked, barrels and cans never get shot out, and a gaggle of nubile vixens as range attendants... I'd be about set :D. Where did you source the barrel? Assuming it wasn't purchased used, it sounds like you might have gotten some old stock. The first confirmed .070" ported DD barrel I got was inspected 03/17 and they weren't really widely available until summer/fall 2017. The 3 DD 10.3s I've gotten since have all been .070", with the most recent one direct from DD in December 2019. So, unless they've changed something recently on the sly, that's probably a pre-2017 barrel. Dad had the DD barrel ordered (new) and then brought everything over so I don't know where he got it from... "Rainier" I want to say is where he got it from but that is only a guess... I know he paid a hair over $400 for it which was shocking to me for a non FSB stripped barrel but hey... he wanted a top shelf rifle so I didn't ask him where from, etc... But I will ask him as to answer your question... And I take back anything negative I said about that barrel... It's pretty awesome even with the .081 gas port size and was easily tameable with a Kaw Valley H3 buffer and a JP "Enhanced" flat ground wire buffer spring... Slings the weak sauce to hot sauce ammo between 2:30-3:15 in neat little piles 3' away. Damn "cloverleaf" accurate too with the heavy pills (69-77grain.) He loves it so it's a winner all the way around. Used a Strike Industries 4 prong flash hider that dubs as a wire cutter and glass break as well which I thought is pretty cool... Oh, they're excellent barrels. Extremely consistent chambers (all my DD 10.3" barrels produce the same fire-formed brass headspace measurements), nice attention to detail on things like the fully polished feed ramps and very accurate for a duty-grade barrel. I don't shoot for groups much unless I'm load testing or zeroing, but my most accurate bulk 55gr HP/SP load can post a hair under 1/2" 5rd groups at 50 yards with a G33/EXPS3--not too bad when most factory 55gr is around 2-3moa (1"-1.5"). No idea if it'd hold 1moa out to 100--much less average it--but that's plenty accurate for my purposes with a CQBR. Even if it would, I can't see well enough to shoot tiny groups at 100 with a 3x magnifier, much less with a 2moa red dot covering everything up, lol. No trouble ringing steel center mass out to 200+ though, which is all the precision I need. All the same, needed or not, I'll take a barrel/ammo combo capable of drilling 1/2" holes over 1.5" holes any day of the week :D. Rainer is just a rip-off when it comes to prices on most things; if you wanna pay retail+ that's the place, lol. The same barrel is $240 with discounts from Brownells and potentially even less elsewhere. |
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Posted: 9/19/2020 7:48:24 PM EST
[#44]
Shitty pic fresh off the
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Posted: 9/19/2020 9:15:23 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/316069/A96913F2-6488-4C5C-8CD3-716172CBF0E4_jpe-1590597.JPG Found a non-hotdog safety and so I replaced the KAC due to this rifle no longer reflecting a MARSOC clone. Also changed to an older hogue grip that didn't allow for the KAC ambi. Just need a colt tear drop foward assist and my LMT sopmod from back home to throw on this rifle and I'll be repainting it to better fit my surroundings. @LsuJon Nice paint job |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 12:35:37 PM EST
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2020 1:08:55 PM EST
[#47]
animated e safety pictures
New build almost complete just need colt barrel |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 2:46:06 PM EST
[#48]
Short barrels are fun
 
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Posted: 9/20/2020 2:56:38 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryNice. 17/18 are looking good. Picked up a Wmx I see.
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AK, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2020 3:08:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4nik8r]
[#50]
Does anyone still do SU231-A/PEQ or SU-231A/PEQ NAVSEA engraving for clones?
I emailed CLW and this was the response. "We no longer offer the service. L3 asked us to not do them any more. I am sorry." If a guy had access to a laser and the .dfx this would be quick and easy aside from the refinish first. If this was already covered in this thread sorry for the dupe. |
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