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Posted: 3/18/2021 7:17:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: SlasherMcGee]
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Edit page ownership:
 Originally Posted By LsuJon: Your answer is yes. Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Yes, SOCOM been using those barrels for several years now. GP .070" and predimpled for set screws. Mk12 gas block is the correct gas block for build. Use a drop of red loctite 242 on the screws and torque to 25 in lbs. Lost count how many I've rebuilt over the last 6 yrs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/FN_barrel_jpg-1863187.JPG Built this one Dec 17' or Jan 18' https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4691_JPG-1863737.JPG CD Thanks guys! 
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Posted: 3/19/2021 12:02:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: tnbigdawg]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spitfire75: I sent them out to Braceman back in 2018 when he was still doing Colt engraving. Since he’s no longer doing Colt engraving, I’ve been hesitant to mill these out because I don’t want to make any mistakes. Definitely practice on another lower. I screwed one up at the very last step on the 5D Tactical jig, milling out the trigger hole. Not sure if they changed anything, but at the time the setup had a fairly big endmill for the trigger hole and upon startup of the router it snagged on the aluminum and caused the router to jerk out of jig. I used a Dremel and file to clean up the hole, but I now have a lower with a very big gaping trigger hole. I ended up ordering another 80% lower with my engravings and different serial number and the milling turned out okay on that one so it's Form 1'd. The other just sits in a box and my OCD is making me want to demill it. What sucks is, I had both lowers Type III anodized anyways after completing them because the shop I sent them to offered the services fairly cheap. Form1 on top, Form4 DDMK18 on bottom:  
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Posted: 3/19/2021 12:30:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: Spitfire75]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnbigdawg: Definitely practice on another lower. I screwed one up at the very last step on the 5D Tactical jig, milling out the trigger hole. Not sure if they changed anything, but at the time the setup had a fairly big endmill for the trigger hole and upon startup of the router it snagged on the aluminum and caused the router to jerk out of jig. I used a Dremel and file to clean up the hole, but I now have a lower with a very big gaping trigger hole. I ended up ordering another 80% lower with my engravings and different serial number and the milling turned out okay on that one so it's Form 1'd. The other just sits in a box and my OCD is making me want to demill it. What sucks is, I had both lowers Type III anodized anyways after completing them because the shop I sent them to offered the services fairly cheap. Form1 on top, Form4 DDMK18 on bottom: https://i.imgur.com/hYzcxYZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Y15bwSy.jpg Big oof...I hear ya. I’ve done four 80% lowers now. Each one of them had their quirks during the milling process but the first two were just buggered, dimensionally speaking. The last one I did, about a month ago, is the best one both in fit and internal finish. For me I think it just came down to how securely I fixed the lower in the jig fixture. That and just going nice and slow and milling 1/3 to 1/2 the recommended milling dept hash marks. I wish I had a drill press for the pin and safety selector holes, but I don’t want to buy one just to drill 6 holes in less than a dozen lower receivers. Yours looks great though. Very nice. Oh yeah, would you mind telling me where you had yours anodized? I was thinking about US Anodizing, but I’ve heard they’re not taking new work and have had issues with faux Colt markings in the past. They also appear to be really expensive. |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 1:29:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spitfire75: Big oof...I hear ya. I’ve done four 80% lowers now. Each one of them had their quirks during the milling process but the first two were just buggered, dimensionally speaking. The last one I did, about a month ago, is the best one both in fit and internal finish. For me I think it just came down to how securely I fixed the lower in the jig fixture. That and just going nice and slow and milling 1/3 to 1/2 the recommended milling dept hash marks. I wish I had a drill press for the pin and safety selector holes, but I don’t want to buy one just to drill 6 holes in less than a dozen lower receivers. Yours looks great though. Very nice. Oh yeah, would you mind telling me where you had yours anodized? I was thinking about US Anodizing, but I’ve heard they’re not taking new work and have had issues with faux Colt markings in the past. They also appear to be really expensive. I forgot to mention my first one (that I might demill) was dimensionally FUBAR'd too. 1) It was off center so the walls aren't the same thickness. 2) The jig didn't allow the removal of enough material in front and the hammer would strike the receiver even when fully assembled with an upper, bcg, and bolt catch. I had to devise a way to allow the router to cut more forward by 1mm. I had a thread on it but can't find it anymore; my search abilities are handicapped, but it was titled something like "Problem with 5D Tactical Jig." As for the anodizing, I just checked the shop's website and they no longer offer the service but they refer us to Vegas Metal Finishing (FFL).   Do they make the Insight dual pad with longer cables? I prefer the ATPIAL-C towards the rear so I can c-clamp grip the handguard just forward of it. The cables barely reach by having it this way. 
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Posted: 3/19/2021 9:09:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnbigdawg: I forgot to mention my first one (that I might demill) was dimensionally FUBAR'd too. 1) It was off center so the walls aren't the same thickness. 2) The jig didn't allow the removal of enough material in front and the hammer would strike the receiver even when fully assembled with an upper, bcg, and bolt catch. I had to devise a way to allow the router to cut more forward by 1mm. I had a thread on it but can't find it anymore; my search abilities are handicapped, but it was titled something like "Problem with 5D Tactical Jig." As for the anodizing, I just checked the shop's website and they no longer offer the service but they refer us to Vegas Metal Finishing (FFL). https://i.imgur.com/NjNuPt5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Tf33Get.jpg Do they make the Insight dual pad with longer cables? I prefer the ATPIAL-C towards the rear so I can c-clamp grip the handguard just forward of it. The cables barely reach by having it this way. https://i.imgur.com/zjP1Ov8.jpg I don't believe they do. What I ended up doing was removing the irons and moving the PEQ all the way forward on the rail. Then you can grip it a lot better and your hand won't be in the way of the illuminator or laser. Even without your hand there I would imaging you're going to get a lot of splash back from the IR hitting your rail and front sight. 
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Posted: 3/19/2021 11:01:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Lol... gettin' there, gettin' there. Gotta keep it going 'til the upper starts looking like a carbon frosted cupcake and you can scoop it out with a spoon :D. Haven't pushed up past 3k since the last time I posted pics, but it's sitting at 1800rds currently, so ya never know. I thought about cleaning after the last trip but buttering it up with more 000 grease is just a lot easier, lol. Overnight, eh? Just gonna leave these here... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72167/CQBR_121419_Carbon_Bukkake-URG-RS-06_jpg-1868757.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72167/CQBR_121419_Carbon_Bukkake-URG-RS-07_jpg-1868758.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72167/CQBR_121419_Carbon_Bukkake-URG-RS-10_jpg-1868759.JPG And she was still running both suppressed and unsuppressed with shit Wolf steel case. CQBR strong like bull. If I had to guess, your buddy probably runs it too dry. Gotta lube dat puppy up. Bad ass, run that machine |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 8:12:00 PM EST
[#7]
Heads up for any TX resident looking to score a surefire RC. Saw one posted in the NFA section of the EE. No connection to seller. Just wanted to put that out there.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:29:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762hunter2: Emissary Development posted some pics of their hand brakes in use with USASOC https://i.ibb.co/6nt8QMV/76-D5-C48-B-54-A8-4-CAB-982-B-7-C4583-CB4-F74.jpg https://i.ibb.co/QHdhBLb/2410-CAE4-C4-B3-4806-AC28-1-AAACC6-C2614.jpg https://i.ibb.co/wBc1VwN/E802-D8-ED-A6-AF-453-C-AC06-705445034968.jpg |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 12:18:45 PM EST
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I know this is oddly specific, but has anyone ever seen an ITW pic of a CQBR block 1 with any kind of LaRue riser in use?
Cheers guys, SO much good info in these threads. 
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Posted: 3/20/2021 12:29:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Theodoric]
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 Not an "ITW", but here is a pic. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 3:11:28 PM EST
[#11]
Damn brownell's has brownell'd me. Package will arrive Thursday, wait we mean Friday, make that Saturday, Nevermind it should be there Monday.
 
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Posted: 3/20/2021 3:20:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: Damn brownell's has brownell'd me. Package will arrive Thursday, wait we mean Friday, make that Saturday, Nevermind it should be there Monday. I mean, if its with usps or whoever, not really brownells fault |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 3:45:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By far_north_311: I know this is oddly specific, but has anyone ever seen an ITW pic of a CQBR block 1 with any kind of LaRue riser in use? Cheers guys, SO much good info in these threads.  Attached FileI love how all the early mod0's had the aimpoints mounted with the battery at 12oclock.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 4:33:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Well, I know it’s not technically clone correct, but I went and got a colt factory 10.3”. I want to have a new barrel to install when my RC gets out of jail. That way it’s a clean slate, new barrel, bcg, upper, 4prong and suppressor.
Anyhow, here is the new m4cqb along with a new demco mueller brass upper receiver. I will probably install the m4cqb on my diemaco upper, which will leave me with the mueller upper, and a new, never shot ballistic advantage barrel. At some point ballistic advantage released a CHF, chrome lined crane spec barrel similar to the CHF dd barrels out there. I do wonder if these new colt m4cqb barrels will ever be used in the field. Seems more efficient than chopping a 14.5” every time for a colt. I know FN and DD provide factory 10.3”, it only makes sense that colt would follow suit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 4:36:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: wissota4]
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Posted: 3/20/2021 4:59:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kidnap_44]
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Quote HistoryPtetty sure I see a US Property Colt lower.  ...And dual NODs. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 5:32:24 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2021 6:50:02 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2021 6:50:18 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2021 7:00:27 PM EST
[#20]
Wrong color RC2, but I've got an fde one on the way.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 7:27:19 PM EST
[#21]
We got some very nice rifles on this page!
 
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:09:15 PM EST
[#22]
For anyone thinking of buying the Brownell MK18 upper.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:21:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: For anyone thinking of buying the Brownell MK18 upper. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/3B121E6C-9577-43DA-910A-D2AFF1155F0E_jpe-1873817.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/BF65A8D5-B354-4A2D-9484-4C7DDD102891_jpe-1873818.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/30F597FA-1FC5-409F-95A4-7123441B64B3_jpe-1873820.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/418E7B5F-46A6-4698-AEDE-2028527DAE23_jpe-1873821.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/F3E058FB-F25F-423B-B4BB-F9C1F7F9E5C1_jpe-1873822.JPG Looks like a Mk12 (profile at least) gas block. I think it might have black Torx screws though, no biggie. Now that logo on the upper receiver  . At least you can swap out the dust cover.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:29:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Looks like a Mk12 (profile at least) gas block. I think it might have black Torx screws though, no biggie. Now that logo on the upper receiver . At least you can swap out the dust cover. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:29:38 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:40:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: Literally swapping out dust cover as I type this, haha! Damn DD and their plastic dust covers. @js1977 sell me the plastic dust cover if you're swapping. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 10:05:27 PM EST
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Much better...
 Attached FileFor what it's worth (could be my wrench) I had to use the Modular float/omega X wrench as I couldn't get the RIS II wrench to fully bite the barrel nut.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 10:36:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: For what it's worth (could be my wrench) I had to use the Modular float/omega X wrench as I couldn't get the RIS II wrench to fully bite the barrel nut. The factory wrenches are junk. You need this: https://classified-defense.com/ris-ii-bolt-up-system-barrel-nut-wrench.html |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 10:37:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Made our own thicker (.375") wrenches long ago. Shown with a 9x19 cartridge.
 Attached FileTop down wrenches (thicker as you go down) Early DD Current DD Classified Defense MTRC-SOCOM made  Attached FileCD |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:25:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By js1977: Much better... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/A1FFCD8B-AC6F-4DB5-B8FB-C44149BD126F_jpe-1873903.JPG For what it's worth (could be my wrench) I had to use the Modular float/omega X wrench as I couldn't get the RIS II wrench to fully bite the barrel nut. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/41E30422-C829-439B-BCB7-876D80833FD0_jpe-1873904.JPG Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Made our own thicker (.375") wrenches long ago. Shown with a 9x19 cartridge. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/DD_wrench_IMG_0587_JPG-1873939.JPG Top down wrenches (thicker as you go down) Early DD Current DD Classified Defense MTRC-SOCOM made https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9523_JPG-1873943.JPG CD  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:32:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnbigdawg: The factory wrenches are junk. You need this: https://classified-defense.com/ris-ii-bolt-up-system-barrel-nut-wrench.html |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:37:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: My wrench was the same way. If you line the wrench up and sort of work it in from side to side, it will settle into the notches. With my wrench, same as yours, one side was slightly rounded whereas the other side has a sharp edge from being stamped out, so it seems. Use the "rounded" towards the receiver when start to rock it into the grooves. How did the classified defense do? I'm thinking about ordering one. Have you ever seen a dd barrel nut, where you can see through a little gap in the notches from the outside to the inside? I've had two, and both ended up with little gaps where I could see into the barrel nut. I just so happen to have a pic. Barrel nut was torqued to around 35 ft/lbs. Are you supposed to get a new barrel nut every time you reinstall the barrel nut?https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/476B838E-4BE9-4350-8C2D-0800F2E5708D_jpe-1873982.JPG @Dyzastr No issues with the Classified Defense wrench. Don't think I've ever noticed a gap as you have. We reuse the barrel nuts during rebarrel work. Not listed as a replacement part. CD |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:47:29 PM EST
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Anyone have a source for an LMT BUIS? I need one for my Mod 0 upper.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 1:15:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: @Dyzastr No issues with the Classified Defense wrench. Don't think I've ever noticed a gap as you have. We reuse the barrel nuts during rebarrel work. Not listed as a replacement part. CD I don't remember seeing the gaps in the barrel nut when I installed it brand new, but when I took it off recently for a barrel swap I could see the gap in all 4 recesses. The first ris ii I installed was used, and the barrel nut had the same gaps. The nuts aren't damaged or deformed in any other way. The gaps all run with the threads. To me it looks like it could be caused by over torquing, but unless my torque wrench is waaay of calibration, i don't see how that could be. It works just fine and torqued to spec without any issues, so I suppose it's safe to proceed as is? Would you feel comfortable shooting it? |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 1:30:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Thank you. I haven't had any issues yet with my cheapo ris ii wrench, but it always feels like it could slip at any time. I don't change enough barrels to really justify needing the beefiest one, but it'd be nice to have for whenever I do a barrel change. I don't remember seeing the gaps in the barrel nut when I installed it brand new, but when I took it off recently for a barrel swap I could see the gap in all 4 recesses. The first ris ii I installed was used, and the barrel nut had the same gaps. The nuts aren't damaged or deformed in any other way. The gaps all run with the threads. To me it looks like it could be caused by over torquing, but unless my torque wrench is waaay of calibration, i don't see how that could be. It works just fine and torqued to spec without any issues, so I suppose it's safe to proceed as is? Would you feel comfortable shooting it? I have seen this a bunch right out of the package, I think DD has said it was normal. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 2:05:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: I have seen this a bunch right out of the package, I think DD has said it was normal. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 3:13:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: My wrench was the same way. If you line the wrench up and sort of work it in from side to side, it will settle into the notches. With my wrench, same as yours, one side was slightly rounded whereas the other side has a sharp edge from being stamped out, so it seems. Use the "rounded" towards the receiver when start to rock it into the grooves. How did the classified defense do? I'm thinking about ordering one. Have you ever seen a dd barrel nut, where you can see through a little gap in the notches from the outside to the inside? I've had two, and both ended up with little gaps where I could see into the barrel nut. I just so happen to have a pic. Barrel nut was torqued to around 35 ft/lbs. Are you supposed to get a new barrel nut every time you reinstall the barrel nut?https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/476B838E-4BE9-4350-8C2D-0800F2E5708D_jpe-1873982.JPG |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:22:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Originally Posted By brodband8: I have seen this a bunch right out of the package, I think DD has said it was normal. Originally Posted By js1977: Thanks, I understand exactly what you mean. If I hadn't had that other wrench, I probably would of kept working until it got on. 
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Posted: 3/21/2021 9:04:46 AM EST
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Question for the guys w/ one or have access to one, but what size are the square UID labels that are used on Aimpont t1s and on the side of serialized uppers??
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Posted: 3/21/2021 11:16:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2Keylows]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Question for the guys w/ one or have access to one, but what size are the square UID labels that are used on Aimpont t1s and on the side of serialized uppers?? I.E. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/236F093D-36EE-42A2-8DDB-A80A706BDC8B_jpe-1874165.JPG That's crazy, I was just thinking of getting this type of Uid aswell. Eta: Clarify sentence. I think this pic was taken from CD.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 12:32:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: That's crazy, I was just thinking of getting this type of Uid aswell. Eta: Clarify sentence. I think this pic was taken from CD. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/475241/t2_jpeg-1874316.JPG |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 12:33:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: UndrGrndPrdcts]
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Posted: 3/21/2021 1:18:07 PM EST
[#43]
Anyone use the old school qd sling mount for their gen1 sopmods? I'm considering getting one or two to check em out. Wanted to see what ppls experiences have been like.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 1:21:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: DBrock07]
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Originally Posted By Spitfire75: One of my “practice” 80% lowers had a selector detent hole that wasn’t drilled deep enough when I received it. The 0.125” hole was drilled properly but the 0.188” hole was too shallow. I tried to finish it out by eyeballing it and I ended up going all the way through. Whoopsie...that’s why it was a practice lower. The selector still functions, but the detent will go all the way through the hole and fall out if I remove the selector. I will actually have to measure things with a caliper if I try it again in the future. I recently did a Nodak and I found the best way to get the detent hole right was to cut off an a2 grip just past the mounting area. Bolt it to a finished lower and use tape on the bits to mark the depth needed. If you use enough tape, it will work as a stop as well. Then bolt it to your 80% and let it rip.  
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Posted: 3/21/2021 1:32:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DBrock07: I recently did a Nodak and I found the best way to get the detent hole right was to cut off an a2 grip just past the mounting area. Bolt it to a finished lower and use tape on the bits to mark the depth needed. If you use enough tape, it will work as a stop as well. Then bolt it to your 80% and let it rip. https://i.imgur.com/r2zRuDU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0XZ0HAc.jpg |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 2:57:40 PM EST
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After many rounds (conus & oconus), I'm finally retiring my CQBR upper. Too much sentimental value to just replace the barrel. Looking forward to running the upgraded upper. Just waiting for two more special items to come in before I switch them out.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:40:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: After many rounds (conus & oconus), I'm finally retiring my CQBR upper. Too much sentimental value to just replace the barrel. Looking forward to running the upgraded upper. Just waiting for two more special items to come in before I switch them out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/9086F4E3-D921-40BB-B42A-4BFA796E210B_jpe-1874449.JPG |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 8:25:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Nice. That block one does have character. I like the m4-2000. For the price, you can't go wrong. I've been wanting to get on or possibly the 556sd.(is that what it's called?) So you're going to retire the block1, and bring out the block2? |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 10:13:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: fredy556]
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Anyone use the old school qd sling mount for their gen1 sopmods? I'm considering getting one or two to check em out. Wanted to see what ppls experiences have been like. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/C0C80BDC-EB4C-4289-887D-383616C2F046_jpe-1874523.JPG I just got one from a friend for free. It’s awesome. Does what it needs to. I recommend it for price and purpose. |
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Posted: 3/22/2021 1:42:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By js1977: Yeah I love the m4-2000, if I could do it all over again I probably would of bought a NT4, just for clone reasons (even though m4-2000 is marked with a NSN and cage code), but at the time I wasn't thinking about clones. Yeah, switching out an outdated system for a new outdated system, haha! But that's the name of the game in the clone world, right? Honestly though, I really just feel at home with these systems, it's a system that's tried and true. Originally Posted By fredy556: I just got one from a friend for free. It's awesome. Does what it needs to. I recommend it for price and purpose. |
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