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Posted: 2/2/2024 5:48:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Lower dates back to 95-96' https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5697_jpeg-3112528.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5696_jpeg-3112529.JPG Kinda cool that an m4 is hanging around at an airport waiting for a flight  And that thing is a mixmaster. Just how they all are. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 10:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Kinda cool that an m4 is hanging around at an airport waiting for a flight And that thing is a mixmaster. Just how they all are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Lower dates back to 95-96' https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5697_jpeg-3112528.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5696_jpeg-3112529.JPG Kinda cool that an m4 is hanging around at an airport waiting for a flight And that thing is a mixmaster. Just how they all are. NGAL and thennnnn the shittiest white light. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 11:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: NGAL and thennnnn the shittiest white light. Of all the lights you could pick that’s the one? Okay. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 11:53:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2024 12:01:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chikenmastr: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/475009/IMG_0319_jpeg-3116435.JPG Finally found one I’ll take it! Jk congratulations let me know if you find anymore lmao |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 2:51:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chikenmastr: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/475009/IMG_0319_jpeg-3116435.JPG Finally found one What is market? I have quite a few lol |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 12:26:37 PM EDT
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I'm curious to know what the current going rate is for one too. Lol
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Posted: 2/3/2024 2:44:29 PM EDT
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Around 750 for fixed NAVSEA ones double for rotational NAVSEA
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Posted: 2/3/2024 3:55:38 PM EDT
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Hell I just want an FDE fixed one!
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Posted: 2/4/2024 2:45:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WittyTiger]
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Anyone know the going rate for a Wilcox M68 mount?
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Posted: 2/4/2024 5:54:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WittyTiger: Anyone know the going rate for a Wilcox M68 mount? In a moment of weakness, I just sold one attached to an M2 for 350.00 |
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Posted: 2/4/2024 7:30:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: In a moment of weakness, I just sold one attached to an M2 for 350.00 Damn! I haven't looked for a few months, but last one I saw was listed for $180 on the EE |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 3:54:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Soon… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_5601_jpeg-3051394.JPG  @bradpierson26 What block are you going for? |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 8:46:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WittyTiger]
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Got the 249F installed today! Anyone have one of the older non logo versions? Could only get a quarter turn out of it. Pinched the washer pretty decent but think it’s shouldering out.
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Posted: 2/8/2024 6:12:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tanodized: While we're busy being pedantic can we also nitpick the latest GT video? I tremendously appreciate him and his content, although some of the technical anachronisms presented really make me squirm. Especially when the majority of viewers will proceed to parrot those errors as historical truth without a second thought. I don't blame GT either, this stuff is incredibly difficult to research and fact check with all the aforementioned hearsay mucking things up. With that being said, here's where I take issue... At 6:30 and later at 14:45 , GT states the Mk18 Mod 0 barrel was originally cut down to 10.5" until later changed to 10.3" when Colt took over production of the complete weapon. This claim originates from an article written by former Colt employee Chris Bartocci, but here's the deal, I think he's wrong. In Jeff Johnson's 2003 NDIA presentation, he outlines the development process of the CQB Receiver. The NSN for which was established the year prior. https://i.imgur.com/YUfRIxg.png https://i.imgur.com/gRAf2xN.png This document along with every other source including the overwhelming mountain of photographic evidence would indicate that issued CQBR URG's and later Mk18 Mod 0 complete weapon systems were delivered with 10.3" barrels from the beginning. I'm certainly inclined to believe that 10.5" was a starting point in development of the system when Karl Lewis was assisting NSWC Crane. However, I don't believe any rifles were ever issued in that configuration. But what about the 10.5" LMT uppers? Yes, what about them? Has anyone any proof of their existence? Please share. I'm extremely partial to the notion that LMT helped supply Mk18 barrels and uppers during this expansive and resource exhausting period of the GWOT. Unfortunately, finding documentation of their usage is like hunting for evidence of Bigfoot. Which leads to my next problem with GT's video; the claim at 14:23 that, "a lot of different barrels have been used.." We know the CQBR and Mk18 initially utilized cut down 14.5" M4 government profile barrels. These Crane produced cut-downs continued to be used on Mk18 Mod 1/CQBR Block II URG's absent the front sight post of course. Yet it wasn't until the dawn of the URG-I that we saw the first SOCOM profile Colt cut down barrels (from M4A1's.) *Note that FN produced 10.3" low profile SOCOMs were already in circulation. https://i.imgur.com/XYQxFuT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jMTyuNS.png The point here is there's no indication that Crane "ran out" of 10.3" government cut-downs from the time they produced the weapon until it was handed off to Colt. Nor is there any indication that SOPMOD cut-downs existed prior to 2016. But just when did Colt take over manufacturing anyway? Well, thanks to the recent batches of surplussed Mk18 barrels dumped on the market we can start to formulate a timeline. I've been fortunate enough to get my hands on quite a few of them and this is what I've observed: All barrels date stamped prior to 2009 are Crane cut-downs easily identifiable by their exposed threads cut to 10.3" OAL. After which, all subsequent barrels are Colt produced in-house with parkerized threads made slightly longer to 10.35" OAL. None are CAGE coded. None are SOPMOD profile. That rough time frame would conveniently coincide with the Afghan surge and Crane's primary focus shifting to Block II production. It would make sense for Colt to assume any remaining Block 1 fulfillment and follow-on support during this period. Now then, in case I haven't made my argument clear... there's not a plethora of manufacturers and models for Mk18 Mod 0 barrels, just two. Either a 10.3" Crane chopped down government profile, or a Colt produced version of the same. That's it. I can tell I'm getting long winded so I'll forgive the rest of GT's mistakes like calling his "RAS" rail a "RIS" or anything else I may have missed. Thanks for coming to my CLONE talk, rebuttals and countervailing evidence are appreciated as always. @tanodized It was years ago I swear I saw an lmt marked 10.5” in use. Maybe my eyes and memory deceive me. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 12:13:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThatGuy01]
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Disregard
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Posted: 2/8/2024 2:12:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: @bradpierson26 What block are you going for? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Soon… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_5601_jpeg-3051394.JPG @bradpierson26 What block are you going for? @fadedsun Just an original mod0 80% clone lower arrived Some build progress:  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 2:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: @fadedsun Just an original mod0 80% clone lower arrived Some build progress: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_6404_jpeg-3122254.JPG Where does one procure an 80% Clone lower like that??? 👀 |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 2:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1: Where does one procure an 80% Clone lower like that??? 👀 I tagged you in the GD thread and I’ll send you a PM |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:03:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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 Attached FileUpper and BUIS arrived. Sf4p coming. Kac rail coming. Need to change the pg on my lower to an a2 And add a geissele ssa-e. Nobody will know until they shoot it
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: @fadedsun Just an original mod0 80% clone lower arrived Some build progress: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_6404_jpeg-3122254.JPG Superb. 80% receiver thread link and what rear sling mount is that? |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 3:25:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Subpar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Superb. 80% receiver thread link and what rear sling mount is that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: @fadedsun Just an original mod0 80% clone lower arrived Some build progress: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_6404_jpeg-3122254.JPG Superb. 80% receiver thread link and what rear sling mount is that? https://www.cqd.net/store/CQD®-Rear-Sling-Mount-p201128433 The make a front mount as well. Are you putting together a Mod 0? There’s a subtle difference between commercial and mil A2 grips if you care about the minutiae. You don’t want this line:  Vs. Colt:  |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 10:29:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: https://www.cqd.net/store/CQD®-Rear-Sling-Mount-p201128433 The make a front mount as well. Are you putting together a Mod 0? There’s a subtle difference between commercial and mil A2 grips if you care about the minutiae. You don’t want this line: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/349FC0D3-367A-42B8-B10D-58FF6BB8AC1E-3122898.jpg Vs. Colt: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/8F745E5D-8EB4-4891-A099-BC02E109D234-3122899.jpg Fuck my life So this is commercial? Source for Colt?  Attached File80% lowers ORjeepguy provides the 80% blank and engraves how you wish. Super quick turnaround @fadedsun |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 10:37:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: https://www.cqd.net/store/CQD®-Rear-Sling-Mount-p201128433 The make a front mount as well. Are you putting together a Mod 0? There’s a subtle difference between commercial and mil A2 grips if you care about the minutiae. You don’t want this line: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/349FC0D3-367A-42B8-B10D-58FF6BB8AC1E-3122898.jpg Vs. Colt: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/8F745E5D-8EB4-4891-A099-BC02E109D234-3122899.jpg Ummm kind of  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 10:48:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Fuck my life So this is commercial? Source for Colt? https://coltparts.com/colt-ar15-m4-pistol-grip/ https://wetworxoutfitters.com/surplus-colt-a2-grips/ https://wetworxoutfitters.com/colt-m16a2-fatty-grip/ |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 10:50:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Fuck my life So this is commercial? Source for Colt? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_6416_jpeg-3123008.JPG 80% lowers ORjeepguy provides the 80% blank and engraves how you wish. Super quick turnaround @fadedsun To my eye, that looks like a Colt “F3” grip. Peek inside by the screw and see what the marking is. Colt has gone through a bunch of A2 grip variations. Old and shiny, fat and chalky, then a cheap version that was the same as Damage Ind. was using. @fadedsun Basically, avoid that pronounced straight slanted line in the first pic I posted. I know we’re mortal enemies in Uke threads, but not actually though. I’ve got a shitload of Colt A2 grips laying around. If you’re in need I’ll send you one gratis. |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 10:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI was actually going to tag you as a reference on Colt grip variants. |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 11:21:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: I was actually going to tag you as a reference on Colt grip variants. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: I was actually going to tag you as a reference on Colt grip variants. Like you said, it's a shit show when it comes to Colt's grips. ETA: 1983-1998 / Slightly wider and a different contour than current production. #SP6457 Current Colt/ #SL00005 |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 12:12:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Like you said, it's a shit show when it comes to Colt's grips. ETA: 1983-1998 / Slightly wider and a different contour than current production. #SP6457 Current Colt/ #SL00005 Thanks, Tig! That’s the kind of knowledge I was looking for. |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 12:40:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Like you said, it's a shit show when it comes to Colt's grips. ETA: 1983-1998 / Slightly wider and a different contour than current production. #SP6457 Current Colt/ #SL00005 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Subpar: I was actually going to tag you as a reference on Colt grip variants. Like you said, it's a shit show when it comes to Colt's grips. ETA: 1983-1998 / Slightly wider and a different contour than current production. #SP6457 Current Colt/ #SL00005 Thanks So a 6457 should be correct for an original mk18 mod0 that woulda been sourced from existing guns? |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 12:52:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Thanks So a 6457 should be correct for an original mk18 mod0 that woulda been sourced from existing guns? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Subpar: I was actually going to tag you as a reference on Colt grip variants. Like you said, it's a shit show when it comes to Colt's grips. ETA: 1983-1998 / Slightly wider and a different contour than current production. #SP6457 Current Colt/ #SL00005 Thanks So a 6457 should be correct for an original mk18 mod0 that woulda been sourced from existing guns? I would say that a Colt A2 grip , regardless of flavor, would be correct personally. (As with one of the various subcontractor grips.) Both Colt grips were available on issued guns and I'm fairly certain that both are still in the supply chain. @Combat_Diver would know for sure. I'm just a civvy spectator.. 
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Posted: 2/9/2024 1:03:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: I would say that a Colt A2 grip , regardless of flavor, would be correct personally. (As with one of the various subcontractor grips.) Both Colt grips were available on issued guns and I'm fairly certain that both are still in the supply chain. @Combat_Diver would know for sure. I'm just a civvy spectator.. Another that you just take for granted and don't pay attention to. Only those that stand out have been worn done smooth and shiny! Old Colt has campaigned hard  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 1:40:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Another that you just take for granted and don't pay attention to. Only those that stand out have been worn done smooth and shiny! Old Colt has campaigned hard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0935_jpeg-3123176.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0934_jpeg-3123177.JPG I still find that grip cool. I remember when you first posted pics. |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 2:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: I still find that grip cool. I remember when you first posted pics. This one was in Syria. Other well worn smooth was on serial number W000489. Under first 500 in 94' as I posted in Astan several years ago. |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 2:29:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#35]
Since these guns belonged to the 82nd ABN DIV, wonder how many jumps they made?
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Posted: 2/9/2024 2:50:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: This one was in Syria. Other well worn smooth was on serial number W000489. Under first 500 in 94' as I posted in Astan several years ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: I still find that grip cool. I remember when you first posted pics. This one was in Syria. Other well worn smooth was on serial number W000489. Under first 500 in 94' as I posted in Astan several years ago. My mistake, I assumed they were one and the same. 
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Posted: 2/9/2024 5:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Since these guns belonged to the 82nd ABN DIV, wonder how many jumps they made? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8539_rz_jpg-3123262.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8542_rz_jpg-3123252.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8544_rz_jpg-3123265.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8545_JPG-3123254.JPG Awesome man! |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 6:07:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2024 2:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_3879_jpeg-3124019.JPG The real flex in that pic is the glock. lol |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 3:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_3879_jpeg-3124019.JPG 17 or 22? |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 4:47:21 PM EDT
[#41]
What do we think the light is on this middle rifle?
 
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Posted: 2/10/2024 7:28:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Since these guns belonged to the 82nd ABN DIV, wonder how many jumps they made? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8539_rz_jpg-3123262.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8542_rz_jpg-3123252.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8544_rz_jpg-3123265.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8545_JPG-3123254.JPG Mine only went with me about 6 times in 2 years, but I was a staff puke. I rode my weapons case in one time when the tie down tape didn't pull out on my way down. It wasn't a problem and I had planned if I ever had to jump in a real world event that I would drop my ruck, but keep my rifle next to me. I also jumped with TAPS and all of my mags ready to go for combat equipment jumps with a follow on mission. It kept weight out of the weapons case which sucked on racetracks or in general because it would be at the top of the case. |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 8:34:07 PM EDT
[#43]
What are the chances of finding/getting an NT4 these days?
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Posted: 2/10/2024 8:57:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: What are the chances of finding/getting an NT4 these days? $3-5k depending on condition on gunbroker. The last time I heard about anyone getting one from a retailer was @eyekhan and I think it was a few years ago. |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 10:28:12 PM EDT
[#45]
Zeroed Ole reliable last weekend
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Posted: 2/11/2024 2:26:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Posted: 2/12/2024 6:13:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: To my eye, that looks like a Colt “F3” grip. Peek inside by the screw and see what the marking is. Colt has gone through a bunch of A2 grip variations. Old and shiny, fat and chalky, then a cheap version that was the same as Damage Ind. was using. @fadedsun Basically, avoid that pronounced straight slanted line in the first pic I posted. I know we’re mortal enemies in Uke threads, but not actually though. I’ve got a shitload of Colt A2 grips laying around. If you’re in need I’ll send you one gratis. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: To my eye, that looks like a Colt “F3” grip. Peek inside by the screw and see what the marking is. Colt has gone through a bunch of A2 grip variations. Old and shiny, fat and chalky, then a cheap version that was the same as Damage Ind. was using. @fadedsun Basically, avoid that pronounced straight slanted line in the first pic I posted. I know we’re mortal enemies in Uke threads, but not actually though. I’ve got a shitload of Colt A2 grips laying around. If you’re in need I’ll send you one gratis. No worries, this ain't about Ukraine or anything else, this is about CQBRs and Mk18s  I already have a PG on the way, so don't worry but thank you for the offer! I ordered it about an hour before I posted the pic you responded to. It will go on my 99% clone correct CQBR block 1.5 I used to have a ton of them around and I got rid of a bunch before I started cloning and used the rest on my a2 projects. Now I actually had to go on GB to get one. Shame on me Originally Posted By Subpar: $3-5k depending on condition on gunbroker. The last time I heard about anyone getting one from a retailer was @eyekhan and I think it was a few years ago. I looked and found one. WTF  4k for a can that's technologically behind something 1/4 of the price? Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Another that you just take for granted and don't pay attention to. Only those that stand out have been worn done smooth and shiny! Old Colt has campaigned hard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0935_jpeg-3123176.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0934_jpeg-3123177.JPG That grip has more TIS than I do. Bloody hell. Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Fuck my life So this is commercial? Source for Colt? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_6416_jpeg-3123008.JPG 80% lowers ORjeepguy provides the 80% blank and engraves how you wish. Super quick turnaround @fadedsun That's super cool. It's a shame I already have a surplus NFA lower to use otherwise I'd do that. |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 8:16:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Armadillon]
[#48]
 Attached FileThis build is the reason why I joined ARFCOM in 2019. Special thanks to Combat_Diver for technical questions answered in the thread. |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 11:50:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Armadillon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/502479/CQBR_jpg-3127197.JPG This build is the reason why I joined ARFCOM in 2019. Special thanks to Combat_Diver for technical questions answered in the thread. Cheers!  Attached FileWaiting to install the: SF4P A2 PG H2 buffer + new spring (it's a used lower, bought new in 2016) SSA-E..supposed to arrive tomorrow. Are front side sling swivel mounts correct? Is the SOPMOD on it a gen 1 or 2? |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 10:59:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Cheers! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/426984858_914212740238153_91678730904375-3127486.JPG Waiting to install the: SF4P A2 PG H2 buffer + new spring (it's a used lower, bought new in 2016) SSA-E..supposed to arrive tomorrow. Are front side sling swivel mounts correct? Is the SOPMOD on it a gen 1 or 2? The one in your pic? That is a Gen 2 (QD attachment instantly lets ya know) |
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