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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:36:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RTUtah]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: I agree  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Originally Posted By AZJBT: Originally Posted By Tmender03: Originally Posted By brodband8: Originally Posted By AZJBT: Did y'all see the pictures of the Elcan HCO? Yep, looks like elcan and eotech had a baby. EXPS 3-0/SU-231A replacement in the near future? Based on the specs released I'd say they are directly gunning for it.  |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:41:30 PM EDT
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Haha that's exactly what I thought of when I saw that angle.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:47:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309: Haha that's exactly what I thought of when I saw that angle. them not have the back look um gay... Also that FDE/Earth Brown/Orange is horrible. Needs to look more like the ELCAN DR's Earth Brown. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:51:07 PM EDT
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Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using?
I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up  . Should I go heavier?
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: I REALLY hope they redesign it before releasing it. I would like to see them not have the back look um gay... Also that FDE/Earth Brown/Orange is horrible. Needs to look more like the ELCAN DR's Earth Brown. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock: Originally Posted By StevieJ309: Haha that's exactly what I thought of when I saw that angle. I really don't get all the FDE hoopla and price-hiking when there exists this magical elixir called spray paint.  |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using? I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up . Should I go heavier?
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<a href="https://imageshack.com/i/p74Dvmluj" target="_blank">http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/907/4Dvmlu.jpg</a> Great pic. Really miss my Block II. Enjoy the snow this weekend... I almost made the trip up to enjoy the storm. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:56:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MCDXXV]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using? I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up . Should I go heavier?
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<a href="https://imageshack.com/i/p74Dvmluj" target="_blank">http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/907/4Dvmlu.jpg</a> I am running a standard Colt spring with a H2 buffer in mine. Runs like a champ. ETA: Wet CQBR pic
Old pic to boot. 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:01:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using? I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up . Should I go heavier?
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<a href="https://imageshack.com/i/p74Dvmluj" target="_blank">http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/907/4Dvmlu.jpg</a> 10.3 WS .70 bbl with ST-T2 eats everything I throw at it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:03:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using? I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up . Should I go heavier?
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<a href="https://imageshack.com/i/p74Dvmluj" target="_blank">http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/907/4Dvmlu.jpg</a> H2 and standard spring. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:12:40 AM EDT
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On my .070 I was running a factory Colt H2 and Colt spring, range 100%. I built another lower and just used a cheap standard Brownells spring and some random H2 buffer sold under the name RGuns and it wouldn't reliable cycle with the same ammo. Switched on an "H" on that spring and it works fine.
Colt H2 and Colt spring seems to be the ticket on mine though. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:18:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnySasaki20]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:Side note, also looking for another Surefire SF3P flash hider if anyone got one they wanna part with. Posted in the EE looking for one.
Surefire Did you want a used one? Edit: Also, I'm using a Spikes T3 buffer because I was having trouble with the H buffer that it came with. Running it on both a factory Colt 10.3 upper and a DD 10.3 upper, and they both seem to work 100% with xm193. I have a bunch of m855's, but I don't really shoot much of that. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:18:55 AM EDT
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I'm like 99 percent sure SOCOM uses the H2 on the 10.3's as well. CD can confirm/deny that when he sees this in the A.M. tho.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:19:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using? I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up . Should I go heavier?
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<a href="https://imageshack.com/i/p74Dvmluj" target="_blank">http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/907/4Dvmlu.jpg</a> You shouldn't be needing heavier. H2 should be the heaviest you need, especially unsuppressed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:38:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
What? You mean the Adams Arms piston conversion and DD lite rail aren't in the SOPMOD Block 2 package? News to me........ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By Edit:
and finally, the 4th mk18 mod 1 upper. <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s18.postimg.org/ayvf7k8e1/hemad2.jpg</a>  What? You mean the Adams Arms piston conversion and DD lite rail aren't in the SOPMOD Block 2 package? News to me........ SOPMOD BLOCK III. Direct impingement is so...BLOCK II. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:50:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: westernrumor]
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Lurker of 2 years here and I finally get to join the club. Also my mags came in
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:25:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I'm like 99 percent sure SOCOM uses the H2 on the 10.3's as well. CD can confirm/deny that when he sees this in the A.M. tho. Currently running H2 on both 10.3" and 14.5" barreled guns. CD |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:10:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By westernrumor:
Lurker of 2 years here and I finally get to join the club. Also my mags came in .
http://i.imgur.com/aj3gsjK.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vmQidmI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vSUsU06.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GGBc4Go.jpg http://i.imgur.com/T2uDP60.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/yeOClVJ.jpg Go buy more mags. I don't think you have quite enough.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:44:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Question was asked about the Machining Technologies (Matech) lower receiver extensions, 4 position. They are made by the same company that makes the Army's BUIS and detachable carrying handle for the M4 and M16A4 guns. CAGE Code 0GU83.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 10:00:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Question: gents with the 0.070 gas port, what buffer spring and buffer combo are you using? I have Sprinco "blue" and Colt H2 combo in my 14.5"s and they run extremly smooth. Not so much so with my 10.3" using that same set up . Should I go heavier?
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<a href="https://imageshack.com/i/p74Dvmluj" target="_blank">http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/907/4Dvmlu.jpg</a> Colt Factory along with a Factory Colt H2, same port size as you. Worked so far with a little less than 500 rounds through it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 11:31:27 AM EDT
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H2's as well on both my clones (one has a LMT barrel and the other in a Noveske) but, I run a H3 in another 10.5 Noveske that also functions 100% both with and without a suppressor.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 11:45:08 AM EDT
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Too many people to quoted haha.
I've also tried factory Colt spring + Colt H2. The Sprinco "blue" actually ran smoother. My rifle runs fine with factory Colt spring and the Sprinco "blue". I tried 55gr to 77gr through it using both springs and it will eat everything it was fed. However the recoil is a lot more noticeable than my 14.5"s with the same springs/buffer set up. I guess it's just the fact that 10.3"s can't be as tamed as the longer barrels. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Too many people to quoted haha. I've also tried factory Colt spring + Colt H2. The Sprinco "blue" actually ran smoother. My rifle runs fine with factory Colt spring and the Sprinco "blue". I tried 55gr to 77gr through it using both springs and it will eat everything it was fed. However the recoil is a lot more noticeable than my 14.5"s with the same springs/buffer set up. I guess it's just the fact that 10.3"s can't be as tamed as the longer barrels. You're experiencing a couple things here. 1. The 14.5" is going to have much longer dwell time and so require (sort-of) less initial pressure to cycle the action because it will remain under pressure for longer. This will "feel" smoother in recoil even though it's the same length gas system. With the 10.3, you've got almost no dwell time so it requires the larger gas port to get enough pressure to cycle it. Think of it like the difference between a sharp punch and a strong push. This is a simplified explanation that leaves out a few key things but good enough to explain some of the difference. 2. The 14.5 is going to be a lot heavier. With the ELCAN vs. EXPS/G33, 14.5" vs. 10.3", 9.5" rail vs. 12" rail, there's just more weight there. You've also got more leverage on the 14.5" since you hold both of them towards the end of the rail. The weight/leverage combined will make the 14.5" feel much smoother. 3. If I'm not mistaken, don't you have brakes on your 14.5s and the 4p on your 10.3"? That's also going to make a HUGE difference. Either way, there's not going to be "one true" combination of spring/buffer that will work universally for everyone. Even people that started with .070 gas ports will all be at different spots depending on round count and erosion. I'd say if H2/Blue runs the smoothest for you than stick with it. I think (obviously) with the .mil guns they're more concerned about reliability than recoil impulse. And for them the H2 buffer combo w/ .070 gave them what they needed. I'm sure there were other requirements there too though, like not having to swap out buffers on every single lower that wanted to use a CQBR, not switching spring systems, etc… |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:30:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:38:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:46:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
You're experiencing a couple things here. 1. The 14.5" is going to have much longer dwell time and so require (sort-of) less initial pressure to cycle the action because it will remain under pressure for longer. This will "feel" smoother in recoil even though it's the same length gas system. With the 10.3, you've got almost no dwell time so it requires the larger gas port to get enough pressure to cycle it. Think of it like the difference between a sharp punch and a strong push. This is a simplified explanation that leaves out a few key things but good enough to explain some of the difference. 2. The 14.5 is going to be a lot heavier. With the ELCAN vs. EXPS/G33, 14.5" vs. 10.3", 9.5" rail vs. 12" rail, there's just more weight there. You've also got more leverage on the 14.5" since you hold both of them towards the end of the rail. The weight/leverage combined will make the 14.5" feel much smoother. 3. If I'm not mistaken, don't you have brakes on your 14.5s and the 4p on your 10.3"? That's also going to make a HUGE difference. Either way, there's not going to be "one true" combination of spring/buffer that will work universally for everyone. Even people that started with .070 gas ports will all be at different spots depending on round count and erosion. I'd say if H2/Blue runs the smoothest for you than stick with it. I think (obviously) with the .mil guns they're more concerned about reliability than recoil impulse. And for them the H2 buffer combo w/ .070 gave them what they needed. I'm sure there were other requirements there too though, like not having to swap out buffers on every single lower that wanted to use a CQBR, not switching spring systems, etc… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Too many people to quoted haha. I've also tried factory Colt spring + Colt H2. The Sprinco "blue" actually ran smoother. My rifle runs fine with factory Colt spring and the Sprinco "blue". I tried 55gr to 77gr through it using both springs and it will eat everything it was fed. However the recoil is a lot more noticeable than my 14.5"s with the same springs/buffer set up. I guess it's just the fact that 10.3"s can't be as tamed as the longer barrels. You're experiencing a couple things here. 1. The 14.5" is going to have much longer dwell time and so require (sort-of) less initial pressure to cycle the action because it will remain under pressure for longer. This will "feel" smoother in recoil even though it's the same length gas system. With the 10.3, you've got almost no dwell time so it requires the larger gas port to get enough pressure to cycle it. Think of it like the difference between a sharp punch and a strong push. This is a simplified explanation that leaves out a few key things but good enough to explain some of the difference. 2. The 14.5 is going to be a lot heavier. With the ELCAN vs. EXPS/G33, 14.5" vs. 10.3", 9.5" rail vs. 12" rail, there's just more weight there. You've also got more leverage on the 14.5" since you hold both of them towards the end of the rail. The weight/leverage combined will make the 14.5" feel much smoother. 3. If I'm not mistaken, don't you have brakes on your 14.5s and the 4p on your 10.3"? That's also going to make a HUGE difference. Either way, there's not going to be "one true" combination of spring/buffer that will work universally for everyone. Even people that started with .070 gas ports will all be at different spots depending on round count and erosion. I'd say if H2/Blue runs the smoothest for you than stick with it. I think (obviously) with the .mil guns they're more concerned about reliability than recoil impulse. And for them the H2 buffer combo w/ .070 gave them what they needed. I'm sure there were other requirements there too though, like not having to swap out buffers on every single lower that wanted to use a CQBR, not switching spring systems, etc… Thanks JB! That's what I thought as well about 10.3" v 14.5". Just gauging to see what others in here runs and if they have any successes in reducing the recoil. I'm gonna get the Sprinco "white" for the 10.3" and stick with that plus H2 buffer. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:52:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ_SBR]
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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:00:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:14:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Looks that way. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:14:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Yes.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:24:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Yep. Another guy not clone correct. 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:42:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Looks that way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Looks that way. Too many ppl have been stealing the USMC marked KAC buis and selling them on ebay, they had to go local and buy whatever is o shelf. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 3:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GersonB90:
Too many ppl have been stealing the USMC marked KAC buis and selling them on ebay, they had to go local and buy whatever is o shelf. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GersonB90:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Looks that way. Too many ppl have been stealing the USMC marked KAC buis and selling them on ebay, they had to go local and buy whatever is o shelf. eventually they'll start getting their own sights back, you'd think.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 4:01:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10Point3]
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Posted: 1/20/2016 4:12:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
eventually they'll start getting their own sights back, you'd think. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By GersonB90:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By jturner1906:
Is that a troy front sight with a magpul rear? Looks that way. Too many ppl have been stealing the USMC marked KAC buis and selling them on ebay, they had to go local and buy whatever is o shelf. eventually they'll start getting their own sights back, you'd think. It's the ciiiiiiiiircle of liiiiiiife. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 5:31:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryCarry handle on the quad rail is interesting |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 5:33:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Petes1552:
Carry handle on the quad rail is interesting Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Petes1552:
Carry handle on the quad rail is interesting Chilean SF |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:33:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Does anyone else notice that sometimes in order to get their shit to work with insight dual switch, you have to press it more than once?
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:48:29 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Does anyone else notice that sometimes in order to get their shit to work with insight dual switch, you have to press it more than once? Im only running a light off of mine, and dont have any problems. But I rarely use the switch which is practically brand new. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:50:01 PM EDT
[#39]
0.070 gas port master race!
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:55:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Domestique:
0.070 gas port master race!
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1650/24399877202_6dbfec115d_h.jpg Nice. When I got mine, I just lied to y'all and said it was 0.070. I think that was on the old thread. Where'd you get it? |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:02:56 PM EDT
[#41]
I sent eric working pictures of the new elcan holosite
You guys bug him if you want to see it! |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:14:29 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
I sent eric working pictures of the new elcan holosite You guys bug him if you want to see it! Post them up on IG so we can see it 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:30:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Just posted them there.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:34:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Nice. When I got mine, I just lied to y'all and said it was 0.070. I think that was on the old thread. Where'd you get it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By Domestique:
0.070 gas port master race!
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1650/24399877202_6dbfec115d_h.jpg Nice. When I got mine, I just lied to y'all and said it was 0.070. I think that was on the old thread. Where'd you get it? It was a 16" DD barrel I had ADCO chop to 10.3 and open up. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:37:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#45]
.070 gas port bbls
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Just posted them there. Definitely digging that reticle |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:43:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
.070 gas port bbls http://s21.postimg.org/dmgewrwc7/12620462_967061843341677_615861093_o.jpg Lmao I've been reading and sometimes post on here, and I'm used to reading ppl names and associat them according to their pictures. But you sir love those funny double chin faces!! |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GersonB90:
Lmao I've been reading and sometimes post on here, and I'm used to reading ppl names and associat them according to their pictures. But you sir love those funny double chin faces!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GersonB90:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
.070 gas port bbls http://s21.postimg.org/dmgewrwc7/12620462_967061843341677_615861093_o.jpg Lmao I've been reading and sometimes post on here, and I'm used to reading ppl names and associat them according to their pictures. But you sir love those funny double chin faces!! lol, yeah I just pick shit that seems funny to me at the time and turn it into avatar
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Posted: 1/20/2016 8:03:59 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Does anyone else notice that sometimes in order to get their shit to work with insight dual switch, you have to press it more than once? My RMT was pretty beat up but still worked perfectly, first light push did it every time with both cables. Yours may be wearing out |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 8:06:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWML on his dome and not on his rifle. So tier juan!!!!
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