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Posted: 6/22/2015 6:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muad: What's interesting is that the BFS is not listed on their website any longer... It was listed as an option with all of their rifles, not it's gone... I hope that doesn't mean the ATF shut them down on the BFS  Damn. Hopefully the delay is due to manufacturing time and not .gov intervention. |
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Posted: 6/22/2015 8:25:24 PM EDT
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It's still referenced on the website in their help wanted advertisement.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2015 9:43:10 PM EDT
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It wont happen, because were all crazy evil gun nuts, that love to murder milk jugs of water, ballistic gel, paper targets, barrels, spray paint etc.
 When are these ass's going to realize 99% of fire arm related crimes are using hand guns. (pulling this number out of my ass, but I know the mass majority is with hand guns). Oh wait, I almost forgot they don't give a rats ass about facts that don't line up with their agenda.
In the long run though, the people get what they want, they always figure out a way. Especially if there is money to be made. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 4:13:28 AM EDT
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Franklin Armory replied to a post on Facebook earlier saying that the trigger is coming on the market, probably in July.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:09:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Franklin Armory replied to a post on Facebook earlier saying that the trigger is coming on the market, probably in July. 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 2:06:35 PM EDT
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Their response to my post:
"It will be available VERY soon. The ATF should be done reviewing the second prototype any day now. In the mean time, we have sought a third party legal review of the BFS. Their conclusion was that the trigger is consistent with federal law as a semiautomatic firearm. If all goes well, we will likely start accept orders in 30 days or so." |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 2:36:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kuraki]
[#7]
Yay
That settles it. Just finished my form 1 9mm can, now I need a 9mm AR 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muad:
Their response to my post: "It will be available VERY soon. The ATF should be done reviewing the second prototype any day now. In the mean time, we have sought a third party legal review of the BFS. Their conclusion was that the trigger is consistent with federal law as a semiautomatic firearm. If all goes well, we will likely start accept orders in 30 days or so." is this threatening the bureau w a potential lawxuit if it comes back denied? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 12:17:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muad: Their response to my post: "It will be available VERY soon. The ATF should be done reviewing the second prototype any day now. In the mean time, we have sought a third party legal review of the BFS. Their conclusion was that the trigger is consistent with federal law as a semiautomatic firearm. If all goes well, we will likely start accept orders in 30 days or so." I'm going to sell one of my kidneys and buy ten. This is the most excited I've been for anything gun related in a long time. Very much a "game change"  |
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DE, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2015 12:28:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
I'm going to sell one of my kidneys and buy ten. This is the most excited I've been for anything gun related in a long time. Very much a "game change"
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Originally Posted By Muad:
Their response to my post: "It will be available VERY soon. The ATF should be done reviewing the second prototype any day now. In the mean time, we have sought a third party legal review of the BFS. Their conclusion was that the trigger is consistent with federal law as a semiautomatic firearm. If all goes well, we will likely start accept orders in 30 days or so." I'm going to sell one of my kidneys and buy ten. This is the most excited I've been for anything gun related in a long time. Very much a "game change"
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:12:40 PM EDT
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Meanwhile I have one Tac-Con 3MR and two Tac-Con 241 triggers. I like them
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:27:49 PM EDT
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Oh I thought this died...
I was going to get a SSA trigger but maybe I hold out just a little bit longer. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:41:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pandaz3:
Meanwhile I have one Tac-Con 3MR and two Tac-Con 241 triggers. I like them You need to start a thread on the 241 to talk about it-I have a 3MR and like it, would be interested to hear about the 241 |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 7:42:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheOtherDave]
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Doubletap
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:20:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave:
You need to start a thread on the 241 to talk about it-I have a 3MR and like it, would be interested to hear about the 241 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Pandaz3:
Meanwhile I have one Tac-Con 3MR and two Tac-Con 241 triggers. I like them You need to start a thread on the 241 to talk about it-I have a 3MR and like it, would be interested to hear about the 241 I did |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:51:10 PM EDT
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I plan on getting on of these for sure. I am in no hurry though, I'll prob wait a bit make sure there are no issues.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 9:08:14 AM EDT
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My wallet is ready.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 9:33:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wildearp:
I like the idea and hope it becomes available. I hope the guy in the video has a tax stamp for his Sig brace, or he will be getting some ATF loving. There is of course a new ATF Opinion. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 3:55:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pandaz3:
Originally Posted By wildearp:
I like the idea and hope it becomes available. I hope the guy in the video has a tax stamp for his Sig brace, or he will be getting some ATF loving. There is of course a new ATF Opinion. Was that their last word on the matter? |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 4:27:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Was that their last word on the matter? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By Pandaz3: Originally Posted By wildearp: I like the idea and hope it becomes available. I hope the guy in the video has a tax stamp for his Sig brace, or he will be getting some ATF loving. There is of course a new ATF Opinion. Was that their last word on the matter? |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 7:27:20 PM EDT
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Well I do have a pistol with the Sig brace and while I won't make any incriminating videos, I am not going to worry about the ATF. I think the assisted reset of the Tac-Con or the spiffy position of the upcoming Franklin shines with pistols or SBR's.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 9:16:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pandaz3:
Well I do have a pistol with the Sig brace and while I won't make any incriminating videos, I am not going to worry about the ATF. I think the assisted reset of the Tac-Con or the spiffy position of the upcoming Franklin shines with pistols or SBR's. The question is, is this a rifle trigger and a pistol trigger? |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 9:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tohbii:
The question is, is this a rifle trigger and a pistol trigger? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tohbii:
Originally Posted By Pandaz3:
Well I do have a pistol with the Sig brace and while I won't make any incriminating videos, I am not going to worry about the ATF. I think the assisted reset of the Tac-Con or the spiffy position of the upcoming Franklin shines with pistols or SBR's. The question is, is this a rifle trigger and a pistol trigger? I have one in a rifle and another in the pistol |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 10:51:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pandaz3:
I have one in a rifle and another in the pistol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pandaz3:
Originally Posted By Tohbii:
Originally Posted By Pandaz3:
Well I do have a pistol with the Sig brace and while I won't make any incriminating videos, I am not going to worry about the ATF. I think the assisted reset of the Tac-Con or the spiffy position of the upcoming Franklin shines with pistols or SBR's. The question is, is this a rifle trigger and a pistol trigger? I have one in a rifle and another in the pistol I am referring to the franklin trigger, would it be approved solely for rifles? |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 11:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tohbii:
I am referring to the franklin trigger, would it be approved solely for rifles? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tohbii:
Originally Posted By Pandaz3:
Originally Posted By Tohbii:
Originally Posted By Pandaz3:
Well I do have a pistol with the Sig brace and while I won't make any incriminating videos, I am not going to worry about the ATF. I think the assisted reset of the Tac-Con or the spiffy position of the upcoming Franklin shines with pistols or SBR's. The question is, is this a rifle trigger and a pistol trigger? I have one in a rifle and another in the pistol I am referring to the franklin trigger, would it be approved solely for rifles? I don't think there is a difference it is a AR or MSR component, I don't think the ATF will drill down that far. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2015 1:10:43 PM EDT
[#26]
So are we getting one of these new triggers or is it still in a holding pattern?
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Posted: 7/11/2015 4:37:23 PM EDT
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I just went to the Franklin website and found nothing on the subject trigger, you can buy their enhanced lower parts kit which includes a tuned single stage trigger for $125, about $45 more than their regular lower parts kit. Since accuracy is primarily the barrel and trigger, this seems like a winner of a deal.
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Posted: 7/14/2015 10:46:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Muad]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pandaz3: I just went to the Franklin website and found nothing on the subject trigger, you can buy their enhanced lower parts kit which includes a tuned single stage trigger for $125, about $45 more than their regular lower parts kit. Since accuracy is primarily the barrel and trigger, this seems like a winner of a deal. Their tuned single stage isn't a bad trigger. I used one in the F17L I tested a while back. It was breaking consistently at 4.5LBS IIRC, or maybe it was 4LBS. However, I'm not a big fan of single stage triggers, especially for a precision or hunting rig. I much prefer a 3.5-4LB two-stage for those instances. For a range/tactical gun, it was a nice trigger for sure. Especially for the money when included with their LPK. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2015 9:32:47 PM EDT
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Two more weeks?
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Posted: 7/18/2015 9:39:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Supperman:
Two more weeks? the correct answer is never. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2015 11:01:24 PM EDT
[#31]
When people introduce these new triggers they REALLY should wait until everything's approved and production has started. I've moved on, just bought an SSA today.
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Posted: 7/18/2015 11:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
When people introduce these new triggers they REALLY should wait until everything's approved and production has started. I've moved on, just bought an SSA today. What does buying an SSA have to do with this trigger? I have a Geissele or CMC in every AR I own. I still want one of these. |
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Posted: 7/18/2015 11:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki:
What does buying an SSA have to do with this trigger? I have a Geissele or CMC in every AR I own. I still want one of these. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki:
Originally Posted By Roadblock:
When people introduce these new triggers they REALLY should wait until everything's approved and production has started. I've moved on, just bought an SSA today. What does buying an SSA have to do with this trigger? I have a Geissele or CMC in every AR I own. I still want one of these. I'm guessing he (like a lot of people in this thread) don't realize this trigger is trying to do something entirely different than the SSA or other triggers on the market. Perhaps the exception being the Taccon, but we all know how that worked out. |
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Posted: 7/19/2015 7:39:04 PM EDT
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The Tac-con worked out fine for people that read the product description and didn't let them bullshit themselves into thinking it would creat a legal post 86 machinegun out of their AR..
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Posted: 7/21/2015 3:11:12 AM EDT
[#35]
I've been told that they have production up and ready to go, they are just waiting on the final approval, which is due any day now.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2015 3:24:20 AM EDT
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Every time I see this page refreshed I assume that it is here! I no know Im doing it! Stop toying with me!
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Posted: 7/21/2015 11:32:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave:
The Tac-con worked out fine for people that read the product description and didn't let them bullshit themselves into thinking it would creat a legal post 86 machinegun out of their AR.. Yeah...but Tac-Con basically put together a bunch of fancy videos and deliberately kept technical data about the trigger minimal in what is likely a sketchy effort to make people think they were basically going to be buying a full auto trigger. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 11:57:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Forest]
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< This isn't GD, keep the crap out of the tech forums - F >
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Posted: 7/21/2015 12:24:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
I've been told that they have production up and ready to go, they are just waiting on the final approval, which is due any day now. By whom? |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 1:15:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Forest]
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< This isn't GD, keep the crap out of the tech forums - F >
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Posted: 7/21/2015 3:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave:
The Tac-con worked out fine for people that read the product description and didn't let them bullshit themselves into thinking it would creat a legal post 86 machinegun out of their AR.. I don't think anybody expected to create a machine gun, but there was some expectation that it would let you shoot reasonably steady, reasonably high RPM strings of fire, instead of being slower than a S3G. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 4:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Yeah...but Tac-Con basically put together a bunch of fancy videos and deliberately kept technical data about the trigger minimal in what is likely a sketchy effort to make people think they were basically going to be buying a full auto trigger. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
The Tac-con worked out fine for people that read the product description and didn't let them bullshit themselves into thinking it would creat a legal post 86 machinegun out of their AR.. Yeah...but Tac-Con basically put together a bunch of fancy videos and deliberately kept technical data about the trigger minimal in what is likely a sketchy effort to make people think they were basically going to be buying a full auto trigger. I don't want to hijack Franklin Armory's thread about a competitor's product, but I have to say that you are wrong. Tac-con described exactly what the trigger did on their website and press releases, there was no fraud. They delivered exactly what they said they would, they just didn't deliver on the expectations of people that extrapolated in their own desire to have a legal machine-gun. I'm still happy with mine. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 6:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki:
By whom? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki:
Originally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
I've been told that they have production up and ready to go, they are just waiting on the final approval, which is due any day now. By whom? Franklin Armory themselves. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2015 12:16:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
Franklin Armory themselves. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Originally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
I've been told that they have production up and ready to go, they are just waiting on the final approval, which is due any day now. By whom? Franklin Armory themselves. so..."about two weeks.." then? |
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Posted: 7/22/2015 1:42:14 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
Franklin Armory themselves. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Originally Posted By SauerPatchKid:
I've been told that they have production up and ready to go, they are just waiting on the final approval, which is due any day now. By whom? Franklin Armory themselves. Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/22/2015 11:22:45 AM EDT
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Tagging for interest...
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KY, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2015 8:09:56 AM EDT
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subscribed
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/9/2015 1:53:52 AM EDT
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Any day now? [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64[/youtube]
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Posted: 8/15/2015 10:08:09 AM EDT
[#49]
Fingers still crossed
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Posted: 8/18/2015 2:14:03 AM EDT
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