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Posted: 4/1/2020 5:59:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Akin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: In order of numbers I've seen on guns down range Matech KAC 600m KAC 300m CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By jollyroger1969: Quick question. What's the preferred clone BUIS these days? I've seen everything from nothing to KAC fronts to magpuls on the pics. I have a 14.5" and a 10.5 I need to finish out. In order of numbers I've seen on guns down range Matech KAC 600m KAC 300m CD Speaking of BUIS... So I went to install a Matech on mine over the weekend. Turns out, it doesn’t fit under an Elcan SpecterDR like it fits with an ACOG or anything. If I want to leave it in, I have to move the Elcan further forward than is practical. Bah. Am I doing something wrong, or do they just skip the BUIS if they have an Elcan? |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 7:03:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Akin: Speaking of BUIS... So I went to install a Matech on mine over the weekend. Turns out, it doesn’t fit under an Elcan SpecterDR like it fits with an ACOG or anything. If I want to leave it in, I have to move the Elcan further forward than is practical. Bah. Am I doing something wrong, or do they just skip the BUIS if they have an Elcan? Mine fit. Just had to have the matech on before the Elcan.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 7:10:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tanodized]
[#3]
Gen 3 Specter DR's are chamfered and notched to accommodate the MaTech rear BUIS while Gen 2's are not. Either may encounter issues depending on the optics' elevation setting.
ETA: Gen2  VS. Gen 3 
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Posted: 4/1/2020 8:48:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalmar: Gen 3 Specter DR's are chamfered and notched to accommodate the MaTech rear BUIS while Gen 2's are not. Either may encounter issues depending on the optics' elevation setting. ETA: Gen2 https://i.imgur.com/DTnCvhj.jpg VS. Gen 3 https://i.imgur.com/189C1ye.jpg Any idea where one could get the tethered battery cap? Mine has the coin slot and I'd rather have one I could remove with my hands. |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 8:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Any idea where one could get the tethered battery cap? Mine has the coin slot and I'd rather have one I could remove with my hands. Those Elcans utilize a DL 1/3N battery. Commercial variants switched production to the CR2032 coin type in 2017. The two versions are not interchangeable. |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 9:04:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalmar: Those Elcans utilize a DL 1/3N battery. Commercial variants switched production to the CR2032 coin type in 2017. The two versions are not interchangeable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalmar: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Any idea where one could get the tethered battery cap? Mine has the coin slot and I'd rather have one I could remove with my hands. Those Elcans utilize a DL 1/3N battery. Commercial variants switched production to the CR2032 coin type in 2017. The two versions are not interchangeable. Well, shit. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2020 12:29:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Akin: Speaking of BUIS... So I went to install a Matech on mine over the weekend. Turns out, it doesn’t fit under an Elcan SpecterDR like it fits with an ACOG or anything. If I want to leave it in, I have to move the Elcan further forward than is practical. Bah. Am I doing something wrong, or do they just skip the BUIS if they have an Elcan? I had to shave a little bit off of my Matech to make it fit under my gen 2 but I love how it turned out. I have several kac rears but I wanted them on other rifles.  |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2020 2:23:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VeganCrossfitter: I had to shave a little bit off of my Matech to make it fit under my gen 2 but I love how it turned out. I have several kac rears but I wanted them on other rifles. https://i.imgur.com/q7d8ilk.jpg This is close to my ideal block II build which I'm piecing together, only differences will be a KAC 600m rear, black gen 1 sopmod and an NT4 FH. And potentially a 3rd gen Elcan, depends on what deal I can scoop up. Very excited. Something about the Elcan and FSP... 
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Posted: 4/2/2020 9:10:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Two army guns... one inspired and one decommissioned.
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Posted: 4/2/2020 9:51:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Mine fit. Just had to have the matech on before the Elcan. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448813/82B18B3E-D98D-4B97-8B7C-502A1CFD0AB7_jpe-1345809.JPG I don’t think it would be possible to install it at all without first removing the Elcan. The problem may be that I use the flip-open lens covers that came with it. Can you use them with yours, or can you only do it by leaving them off? |
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Posted: 4/2/2020 9:53:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalmar: Gen 3 Specter DR's are chamfered and notched to accommodate the MaTech rear BUIS while Gen 2's are not. Either may encounter issues depending on the optics' elevation setting. ETA: Gen2 https://i.imgur.com/DTnCvhj.jpg VS. Gen 3 https://i.imgur.com/189C1ye.jpg Well, mine’s from last January, so unless they’ve kicked out a new generation since then I would expect it to be the latest. I’m wondering now if the problem is that I’m using the flip-open lens covers that came with it. |
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Posted: 4/2/2020 10:04:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyPilot12]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Akin: Well, mine’s from last January, so unless they’ve kicked out a new generation since then I would expect it to be the latest. I’m wondering now if the problem is that I’m using the flip-open lens covers that came with it. Yep. I put them and the ARD in the parts drawer. No clearance issues with my Matech rear BUIS. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2020 11:52:08 AM EDT
[#13]
So the Vortex Razors Gen II 1-6x24, are clone correct as some units have purchased them with their own fund? The correct reticle is what? JM-1 BDC?
Geissele SOPMOD Vortex mount is the correct mount for the unit purchased Razors? |
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Posted: 4/2/2020 8:12:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Akin]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Yep. I put them and the ARD in the parts drawer. No clearance issues with my Matech rear BUIS. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Originally Posted By Akin: Well, mine’s from last January, so unless they’ve kicked out a new generation since then I would expect it to be the latest. I’m wondering now if the problem is that I’m using the flip-open lens covers that came with it. Yep. I put them and the ARD in the parts drawer. No clearance issues with my Matech rear BUIS. :-/ I kinda like the lens covers, though the killflash is largely superfluous for me. Since I have it with me at work every day, I want the glass protected. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2020 7:40:15 PM EDT
[#15]
What tac lights are acceptable?
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Posted: 4/3/2020 7:51:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: What tac lights are acceptable? Streamlight ProTac |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2020 8:45:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Streamlight ProTac Thanks, but really |
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Posted: 4/3/2020 8:52:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: romad99]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Thanks, but really Near as I can tell from what I’ve been told by guys carrying them, it’s the same issued optics and lights as the Block II (WMX200 and Surefire Scouts) plus more variety of LPVO in the wild. @CD can tell me if I’m wrong. |
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Posted: 4/3/2020 11:37:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Thanks, but really 3rd pic down on linked post. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=128#i7940784 |
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Posted: 4/4/2020 12:30:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By romad99: Near as I can tell from what I’ve been told by guys carrying them, it’s the same issued optics and lights as the Block II (WMX200 and Surefire Scouts) plus more variety of LPVO in the wild. @CD can tell me if I’m wrong. Correct, URGI accessories are the same as the URG's. CD |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2020 8:28:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TBone556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P51D_katydid: So the Vortex Razors Gen II 1-6x24, are clone correct as some units have purchased them with their own fund? The correct reticle is what? JM-1 BDC? Geissele SOPMOD Vortex mount is the correct mount for the unit purchased Razors? It would be a MRAD reticle most likely for ranting purposes and the mount could be whatever 30mm mount they chose. LaRue, Geissele, or whoever else. A lot of these NF, Razor, and whatever else optics are personally owned optics. I got a buddy that runs the new VCOG 1-8 on his SCAR and then the Eotech and magnifier on his m4 with the new URGI. I know dudes running mk6 and NF nx8. But they bought them with their own money. A lot of guys are taking personal stuff and adding to the guns, you’ll see Inforce lights, streamlight, you’ll see some Surefire warcomps since those have NSN on them. |
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Posted: 4/4/2020 10:11:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: 3rd pic down on linked post. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=128#i7940784 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Originally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Thanks, but really 3rd pic down on linked post. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=128#i7940784 Same rifle has Magpul Pro offset buis.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2020 8:33:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#23]
Was set on not building another URGI...
Then salty Colt receiver appears and I had to buy it due to its ugliness 
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Posted: 4/4/2020 9:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Was set on not building another URGI... Then salty Colt receiver appears and I had to buy it due to its ugliness https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/37846EA9-E89F-47B1-8519-05C65857613D-135-1351221.jpg That’s the only kind of lowers I like. Well used. |
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Posted: 4/5/2020 12:11:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Akin: Speaking of BUIS... So I went to install a Matech on mine over the weekend. Turns out, it doesn’t fit under an Elcan SpecterDR like it fits with an ACOG or anything. If I want to leave it in, I have to move the Elcan further forward than is practical. Bah. Am I doing something wrong, or do they just skip the BUIS if they have an Elcan? Eotech setup almost doesn’t work with a Matech... the G33 QD latch BARELY clears the elevation dial.  |
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Posted: 4/5/2020 1:02:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Cool issued gun with some arisaka accesories and nightforce nx8 https://i.postimg.cc/RhTFyDVm/95712-D59-4-DA4-4-D1-B-BA87-869840-BC2733.jpg What flashlight is that? And how is it mounted? |
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Posted: 4/5/2020 3:51:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: What flashlight is that? And how is it mounted? Arisaka E2XT or E2XTD on Arisaka scout side mount? |
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Posted: 4/5/2020 3:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Arisaka E2XT or E2XTD on Arisaka scout side mount? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: What flashlight is that? And how is it mounted? Arisaka E2XT or E2XTD on Arisaka scout side mount? Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/5/2020 3:08:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Is the only difference between the Geissele URG-I Airborne Charging Handle and the standard Geissele Airborne Charging handle simply the subdued markings?
Or are there other differences? |
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Posted: 4/5/2020 3:19:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Is the only difference between the Geissele URG-I Airborne Charging Handle and the standard Geissele Airborne Charging handle simply the subdued markings? Or are there other differences? Nope that’s the only difference. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 10:55:04 AM EDT
[#31]
I'm sure this has been asked before, but...
Have there been any Scout light mounts that are direct MLok mounted? Versus MLok to 1913 to light mount. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 11:00:29 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: I'm sure this has been asked before, but... Have there been any Scout light mounts that are direct MLok mounted? Versus MLok to 1913 to light mount. Arisaka |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 11:27:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: I'm sure this has been asked before, but... Have there been any Scout light mounts that are direct MLok mounted? Versus MLok to 1913 to light mount. The new Scout Light Pro come with MLOK mounts. They were featured on URG-I (or MK16 rail equipped) uppers at SHOT, so it's semi-related to the topic. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 11:35:42 AM EDT
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Comes with both. I’m very happy with this setup. Much better than my MagPul mount in the bottom picture.
I’ll update pictures when my Mk16 arrives...  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:42:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By romad99: Comes with both. I’m very happy with this setup. Much better than my MagPul mount in the bottom picture. I’ll update pictures when my Mk16 arrives... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/249363/22DE9B8B-CA50-4FCA-A509-B4BAEAACE179_jpe-1355473.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/249363/384402E4-9FC4-4F74-B582-85B5E1A0D004_jpe-1355474.JPG Nice! That is the light I am running for sure. So happy Surefire came out with this. It's like the rotational-mount WMX from the future, but with actual lumens... |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 3:55:53 PM EDT
[#36]
So isn't the ScoutLight Pro lights (Mini and full-size) basically the same light, just comes with direct MLok mount?
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Posted: 4/7/2020 7:44:34 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: So isn't the ScoutLight Pro lights (Mini and full-size) basically the same light, just comes with direct MLok mount? I believe they are the same as the other current Scouts except the mount. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 7:54:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815: So isn't the ScoutLight Pro lights (Mini and full-size) basically the same light, just comes with direct MLok mount? Pretty much, the bodies are different on the Pro. They don't have the flat mounting surfaces machined on them like the legacy lights. They have a set of "ears" that are the rotational mounts for the M-LOK or pic rail "adapter." Same lumes as the similar sized Scout lights. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2020 9:26:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Where can I find a ambi selector kit(with the right stubby selector) other than Colt/FN? Wouldn't mind a Colt/FN selector but is there any manufacturer what makes them?
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Posted: 4/7/2020 9:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By txdude915: Wouldn't mind a Colt/FN selector but is there any manufacturer what makes them? Manufacturing Support Industries (1KW91), though you're unlikely to find them available commercially. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 10:02:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By txdude915: Where can I find a ambi selector kit(with the right stubby selector) other than Colt/FN? Wouldn't mind a Colt/FN selector but is there any manufacturer what makes them? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/WTS-COLT-OEM-Ambi-Safety-like-new-takeoff/119-1981421/ |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 12:11:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: txdude915]
[#42]
Originally Posted By Rhinowso96: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/WTS-COLT-OEM-Ambi-Safety-like-new-takeoff/119-1981421/ Darn! I missed out. Thanks for the reply! |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 12:22:16 AM EDT
[#43]
Current URGI Setup. Just waiting on my Cloud Defensive pressure switch mount to finish it up. Would also like to swap the Larue SPR Mount for a Geissele 1.93, but those seem to be unobtainium right now.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 2:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spydey: Current URGI Setup. Just waiting on my Cloud Defensive pressure switch mount to finish it up. Would also like to swap the Larue SPR Mount for a Geissele 1.93, but those seem to be unobtainium right now. https://i.imgur.com/aFufOvW.jpg Sweet set up. I have to ask, what is that grip/handstop youre running? |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 4:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spydey: Current URGI Setup. Just waiting on my Cloud Defensive pressure switch mount to finish it up. Would also like to swap the Larue SPR Mount for a Geissele 1.93, but those seem to be unobtainium right now. https://i.imgur.com/aFufOvW.jpg I like your setup Wrong lower for now but otherwise I’m happy with it.  
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Posted: 4/8/2020 5:35:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalmar: Manufacturing Support Industries (1KW91), though you're unlikely to find them available commercially. Freshly swapped to a MSI upper. 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 10:41:23 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nab187: Sweet set up. I have to ask, what is that grip/handstop youre running? Its the True North Concepts Gripstop. Comes in the regular length (which is what I have) and a short/stubby version. I believe B5 makes the same product as well. Im a pretty big fan of it so far, but dont have a ton of time with it yet. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2020 1:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spydey: Its the True North Concepts Gripstop. Comes in the regular length (which is what I have) and a short/stubby version. I believe B5 makes the same product as well. Im a pretty big fan of it so far, but dont have a ton of time with it yet. Thanks for the info. It looks damn good. One of the better matching ones I've seen. I'm going to have to snag one. 
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Posted: 4/9/2020 2:47:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: delta_romeo_echo]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nab187: Thanks for the info. It looks damn good. One of the better matching ones I've seen. I'm going to have to snag one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nab187: Originally Posted By Spydey: Its the True North Concepts Gripstop. Comes in the regular length (which is what I have) and a short/stubby version. I believe B5 makes the same product as well. Im a pretty big fan of it so far, but dont have a ton of time with it yet. Thanks for the info. It looks damn good. One of the better matching ones I've seen. I'm going to have to snag one. True North developed the original. I like the "K" (short) version. https://truenorth-usa.com/product-category/store/ B5 was licensed to produce them for a while but they don't list them on the website anymore. There are some floating around with online sellers though. There was a skeletonized version they made which was super cool IMO but hard to find now.  
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2020 7:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: True North developed the original. I like the "K" (short) version. https://truenorth-usa.com/product-category/store/ B5 was licensed to produce them for a while but they don't list them on the website anymore. There are some floating around with online sellers though. There was a skeletonized version they made which was super cool IMO but hard to find now. https://i.imgur.com/kDTiuej.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4PfcKNi.jpg That is sharp. I actually just landed a URGI Upper the other day and was brainstorming on what VFG or handstop would compliment that DDC rail.....then I stumbled upon this thread. |
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