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2/24/2018 5:28:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Seems to me, if I wanted to upgrade my Block II to this, I need the rail and charging handle, as well as a DD 14.5" middy barrel, rest is the same? Sadly I can't see a way of making this happen without buying the complete upper and selling off parts I'm not going to use (expensive option).
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Any type of M4A1 clone can turn into an URG-I with a barrel, rail, charging handle, gas tube, gas tube pin, possibly gas block, and possibly muzzle device.
2/24/2018 6:36:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Worst pic thread in this forum.
2/24/2018 7:24:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CTM1:
Worst pic thread in this forum.
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You're welcome to post pictures of issued URG-Is and clones.

BTW, this is information about the URG-I and cloning it plus pictures, not a picture thread. Anyway, I suspect there will be a lot more pics in a couple of months.
2/24/2018 7:46:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CTM1:
Worst pic thread in this forum.
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Well yeah, the URG-I hasn't been fielded quite yet, and the Brownells version hasn't shipped yet. That kind of puts a delay on things.
Colt the rifles and super sport the motorcycles
2/25/2018 7:28:12 PM EDT
[#5]
What makes the brownells lowers acceptable for clones (any clones?)? Are they quality? I wish colt lowers weren't so difficult to acquire.
2/25/2018 11:13:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
What makes the brownells lowers acceptable for clones (any clones?)? Are they quality? I wish colt lowers weren't so difficult to acquire.
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Virtually any forged lower is acceptable for clones because there aren’t (many) commercially available lowers that look like .mil issue Colt or FN M4/M4A1 lowers. Colt M4 & M4A1 commercial lowers don’t actually look like military ones.

Some hardcore cloners do 80% lowers with custom engraving to mimic issue lowers but most agree that any forged lower is fine.

I personally like Range Tool or PSA Stealth lowers without rollmark graphics.
2/25/2018 11:20:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
What makes the brownells lowers acceptable for clones (any clones?)? Are they quality? I wish colt lowers weren't so difficult to acquire.
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They're A1 profile and lack a rollmark
"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
2/26/2018 12:12:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WhisperPickle][Edited] [#8]
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Any type of M4A1 clone can turn into an URG-I with a barrel, rail, charging handle, gas tube, gas tube pin, possibly gas block, and possibly muzzle device.
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Seems to me, if I wanted to upgrade my Block II to this, I need the rail and charging handle, as well as a DD 14.5" middy barrel, rest is the same? Sadly I can't see a way of making this happen without buying the complete upper and selling off parts I'm not going to use (expensive option).
Any type of M4A1 clone can turn into an URG-I with a barrel, rail, charging handle, gas tube, gas tube pin, possibly gas block, and possibly muzzle device.


So, basically everything but the forged upper. Might as well just buy it completed and leave the Block II clone alone.
2/26/2018 9:41:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By socommatthews:



So, basically everything but the forged upper. Might as well just buy it completed and leave the Block II clone alone.
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When you already have a DD Gas Block, and Surefire SF4P, only need a new gas tube and bolt for the barrel (depending on round count I suppose).
2/26/2018 12:47:57 PM EDT
[#10]
I came upon these URG-I pics:

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@CTM1
2/26/2018 3:12:04 PM EDT
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Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
Colt the rifles and super sport the motorcycles
2/26/2018 3:46:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
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Razor 1-6 also?
If U can't Truck It F!@k It!
2/26/2018 6:04:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By imdBman:

Razor 1-6 also?
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Yep. The big question I think with the URG-I is the next generation of preferred optics. We definitely will see some LPVs in use but I still think there is no replacement for 1x red dots for use in raids and QRF type missions. I bet Geissele will get the contract for the mount, whatever it is. They pretty much got them covered....Aimpoint, MRO, 1-6x.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
2/26/2018 11:01:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Iron sights are a thing of the past.
2/26/2018 11:51:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
2/27/2018 12:00:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
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As stated the URG-I will continue to use the SF4P.

CD
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14'&17'
2/27/2018 12:07:16 PM EDT
[#17]
The closed tine Warcomp was probably just for testing.
2/27/2018 12:54:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Not that it really matters, but how can you guys tell that's a closed tine Warcomp and not a closed tine Flash Hider?
2/27/2018 1:28:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WEK207:
Not that it really matters, but how can you guys tell that's a closed tine Warcomp and not a closed tine Flash Hider?
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Yeah, more than likely it's the flash hider
2/27/2018 2:28:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
As stated the URG-I will continue to use the SF4P.

CD
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
As stated the URG-I will continue to use the SF4P.

CD
"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
2/27/2018 2:34:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WEK207:
Not that it really matters, but how can you guys tell that's a closed tine Warcomp and not a closed tine Flash Hider?
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Length
Colt the rifles and super sport the motorcycles
2/27/2018 2:57:05 PM EDT
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Probably unit level swap.
2/27/2018 4:05:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
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Mine SF's hardly ping at all, at least compared to my AAC's. What's funny is my closed tine SF flash hider (SFCT556) pings more than my open tine SF's. Weird...
2/27/2018 4:18:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
Same here, it freakin’ drives me crazy on my MK18 build.... *PIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNG*

With this URGI upper, if you’re actually running it suppressed you'll end up never shooting it without the silencer attached because the 3p/4p is so obnoxious. If you’re not going to run suppressed, I'd just go with the closed tine and shoot for a  "fielded" build and not worry so much about "as issued".

Just my opinion of course.
2/27/2018 4:30:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ThRob:
Same here, it freakin’ drives me crazy on my MK18 build.... *PIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNG*

With this URGI upper, if you’re actually running it suppressed you'll end up never shooting it without the silencer attached because the 3p/4p is so obnoxious. If you’re not going to run suppressed, I'd just go with the closed tine and shoot for a  "fielded" build and not worry so much about "as issued".

Just my opinion of course.
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Originally Posted By ThRob:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
Same here, it freakin’ drives me crazy on my MK18 build.... *PIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNG*

With this URGI upper, if you’re actually running it suppressed you'll end up never shooting it without the silencer attached because the 3p/4p is so obnoxious. If you’re not going to run suppressed, I'd just go with the closed tine and shoot for a  "fielded" build and not worry so much about "as issued".

Just my opinion of course.
You guys that think the SF's ping loudly must not have used an AAC Blackout. No comparison the AAC is 100x louder and longer lasting, but it doesn't bother me either way, so I guess I'm in the minority.
2/27/2018 4:32:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By alpha0815:

Yep. The big question I think with the URG-I is the next generation of preferred optics. We definitely will see some LPVs in use but I still think there is no replacement for 1x red dots for use in raids and QRF type missions. I bet Geissele will get the contract for the mount, whatever it is. They pretty much got them covered....Aimpoint, MRO, 1-6x.
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Dont be surprised when eotechs are still the preferred 1x
2/27/2018 4:41:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/URG-1_3-466184.JPG

Probably unit level swap.
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Who makes that QD swivel? Looks pretty fancy compared to the typical.
2/27/2018 4:42:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4A1SOPMOD:

Dont be surprised when eotechs are still the preferred 1x
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Oh I won’t be surprised one bit. Many here will be butthurt though. I have a family member that is in an active USASOC unit and is still issued EOTech.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
2/27/2018 4:51:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Who makes that QD swivel? Looks pretty fancy compared to the typical.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/URG-1_3-466184.JPG

Probably unit level swap.
Who makes that QD swivel? Looks pretty fancy compared to the typical.
KDG?
2/27/2018 4:58:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
KDG?
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/URG-1_3-466184.JPG

Probably unit level swap.
Who makes that QD swivel? Looks pretty fancy compared to the typical.
KDG?
Looks like the ALG Forged Sling Swivel
2/27/2018 4:59:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/URG-1_3-466184.JPG

Probably unit level swap.
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I just now realized that's the same exact gun.

MILSPEC- 1

Rest of ARFCOM except PBT- 0

Suck it noobs.
Colt the rifles and super sport the motorcycles
2/27/2018 6:14:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

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You can spot 0.15" from those two pictures? Impressive.

ETA: That third pictured would've helped with the ID right away
2/27/2018 9:19:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/URG-1_3-466184.JPG

Probably unit level swap.
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What QD is that? Interesting looking.
Squire
Without blood, it doesn't count!
I survived ARFbortion2016 and all I got was this stupid sigline
2/27/2018 9:21:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 871JZ:
You guys that think the SF's ping loudly must not have used an AAC Blackout. No comparison the AAC is 100x louder and longer lasting, but it doesn't bother me either way, so I guess I'm in the minority.
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Originally Posted By 871JZ:
Originally Posted By ThRob:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are my eyes deceiving me or is that a closed tine warcomp?
I sure hope so. Man, the tuning fork drives me insane.
Same here, it freakin’ drives me crazy on my MK18 build.... *PIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNG*

With this URGI upper, if you’re actually running it suppressed you'll end up never shooting it without the silencer attached because the 3p/4p is so obnoxious. If you’re not going to run suppressed, I'd just go with the closed tine and shoot for a  "fielded" build and not worry so much about "as issued".

Just my opinion of course.
You guys that think the SF's ping loudly must not have used an AAC Blackout. No comparison the AAC is 100x louder and longer lasting, but it doesn't bother me either way, so I guess I'm in the minority.
This. I can look at my AAC and it'll ping.
Squire
Without blood, it doesn't count!
I survived ARFbortion2016 and all I got was this stupid sigline
2/27/2018 9:31:24 PM EDT
[#35]
This is my new favorite thread. Can't wait to start building.
3/1/2018 8:43:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Offically only word I have is I've got work to do assembling.  Talked to Bill G and was told assembled barrels with gas block and G barrel nut.  Remove old barrel, install new barrel, tighten nut (one wrench per 10 rails) and then screw on new rail with T30 screws.  Same S4P.  Only word on gas blocks I've seen was G stating it was DD Mk12 GBs.  Don't know yet until I actually get the kits.

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Forgive me if Im I'm completely misinterpreting this, or if this has already been covered, but why one wrench per ten rails? Is there concern about fatigue and altered torque application over time? Or is it just insurance?
3/1/2018 9:57:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mmmboats:

@Combat_Diver

Forgive me if Im I'm completely misinterpreting this, or if this has already been covered, but why one wrench per ten rails? Is there concern about fatigue and altered torque application over time? Or is it just insurance?
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I'm a SOCOM armorer, so I would assume it is to cut costs and to ensure that whoever installs the uppers as at least one wrench.  I just relayed what Bill G told me as per contract.

CD
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14'&17'
3/1/2018 10:17:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Thanks for the response; Makes a hell of a lot more sense now- wouldn't want to have to dig through half a pallet of rails to find the one with the wrench
3/3/2018 3:38:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I can't and won't tell you my source but I can tell you this source is solid.

I was told essentially it will be a lot of the SOPMOD Block 2 accessories to begin with (LA-5, Elcan etc) BUT- with 1-6 and/or 1-8 powered variables. That's all I was able to squeeze out at this current time.

As things progress I'm sure we will see even more accessory changes over time. Just like with any other evolution, URG, or package
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By iMONOob11:
Anyone have an idea what optics and accessories have been chosen. I hope NF wins the contract for the squad LPV, i want me a ATACR 1-8 on a clone build.
I can't and won't tell you my source but I can tell you this source is solid.

I was told essentially it will be a lot of the SOPMOD Block 2 accessories to begin with (LA-5, Elcan etc) BUT- with 1-6 and/or 1-8 powered variables. That's all I was able to squeeze out at this current time.

As things progress I'm sure we will see even more accessory changes over time. Just like with any other evolution, URG, or package
But, but, according to some here the Elcan is a total pos and a complete failure, seriously though, I’m looking at the striped upper as with my other clones, their complete up to the AAC mounts for my M4 2000’s, I’ve thought about getting a SF can but I don’t think their that much better to justify the cost, verse say Ruggeds? I would like the charging handle, as well as Geisseles gas block if it’s better, than he DD? I’m talking overall ruggedness, and stainless is better. Just my thoughts and where I’m coming from.
How much crack did you have to smoke to reach that conclusion? Was it just a $20 rock or was it like Whitney Houston level shit?
”Guitargod1985”
3/3/2018 4:59:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Well now that I received by full Geissele URGI I guess I'm on my way to a clone.

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/alexanderdavis625/media/20180303_135238_zpsylfnaagf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
3/3/2018 5:44:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex11B:
Well now that I received by full Geissele URGI I guess I'm on my way to a clone.

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/alexanderdavis625/media/20180303_135238_zpsylfnaagf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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Nice rifle but you've got a lot of parts to swap to make a clone.
3/3/2018 7:19:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex11B:
Well now that I received by full Geissele URGI I guess I'm on my way to a clone.

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/alexanderdavis625/media/20180303_135238_zpsylfnaagf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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Did you win that at Shot Show? That rifle is Siiiiiiiiiiick, and probably the first one of us to get their hands on that rail.
3/3/2018 7:37:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZJBT:
Iron sights are a thing of the past.
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Doubt it.
Teener Crew 4 Lyfe.

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3/3/2018 9:45:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ThRob:

Did you win that at Shot Show? That rifle is Siiiiiiiiiiick, and probably the first one of us to get their hands on that rail.
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From the Ser. # I’m gonna say yes.
3/3/2018 11:34:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ThRob:

Did you win that at Shot Show? That rifle is Siiiiiiiiiiick, and probably the first one of us to get their hands on that rail.
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Yes I did.
3/4/2018 12:17:34 AM EDT
[#46]
Damn!  At first I was like fuck another clone thread but now I'm like fuck I need another clone.........................but I'm so fucking poor in life at the time
3/4/2018 1:24:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex11B:
Well now that I received by full Geissele URGI I guess I'm on my way to a clone.

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/alexanderdavis625/media/20180303_135238_zpsylfnaagf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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How is that Rail?  What FH did you get?
If U can't Truck It F!@k It!
3/4/2018 1:30:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex11B:
Well now that I received by full Geissele URGI I guess I'm on my way to a clone.

http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/alexanderdavis625/media/20180303_135238_zpsylfnaagf.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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OOPS Double Tap, DELETE!
If U can't Truck It F!@k It!
3/4/2018 9:03:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By imdBman:

How is that Rail?  What FH did you get?
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The rail is very nice.  Reminds me of the DD v7 rail in profile.   It came with a SF 3p FH.  (Not warcomp )
3/4/2018 10:22:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex11B:

The rail is very nice.  Reminds me of the DD v7 rail in profile.   It came with a SF 3p FH.  (Not warcomp )
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As a clone the SF3P is at least closer then one that isn't issued.

CD
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14'&17'

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