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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: sorry for the "inside" pic.....its dark outside https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/15576363630_516b907c09_b.jpgDSC_5030 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr ETA... damn it, top of page- I really didn't feel like taking any half ass indoor pictures tonight.   |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok. This thread has broken me down. I will have something quite titillating to share in a couple weeks. Let's just say a new KAC 11.5" CQB rifle, TR24 and some cerakote is involved... 
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Originally Posted By plante74:
Took a 223 hunting for the first time. No deer this afternoon <a href="http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/plante74/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6168623d-40ad-4e80-beca-5f8ffeac6902_zps78142958.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a567/plante74/Mobile%20Uploads/6168623d-40ad-4e80-beca-5f8ffeac6902_zps78142958.jpg</a> no snow? |
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
All I see are words, and empty promises... Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok. This thread has broken me down. I will have something quite titillating to share in a couple weeks. Let's just say a new KAC 11.5" CQB rifle, TR24 and some cerakote is involved... All I see are words, and empty promises... I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. 
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok. This thread has broken me down. I will have something quite titillating to share in a couple weeks. Let's just say a new KAC 11.5" CQB rifle, TR24 and some cerakote is involved... All I see are words, and empty promises... I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. CC use on a hobby that is expensive such as ours is unhealthy for your finances. Cash only in my household. CCs are evil.
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Originally Posted By warpig8654:
CC use on a hobby that is expensive such as ours is unhealthy for your finances. Cash only in my household. CCs are evil. Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok. This thread has broken me down. I will have something quite titillating to share in a couple weeks. Let's just say a new KAC 11.5" CQB rifle, TR24 and some cerakote is involved... All I see are words, and empty promises... I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. CC use on a hobby that is expensive such as ours is unhealthy for your finances. Cash only in my household. CCs are evil. I hear that. The wife just left her previous employer for a new company. Not only was a good salary increase involved, but her previous employer now needs to pay her for like $7k of unused vacation time. Let's just say I thought all of this out prior, and I'm confident I can convince her that a second KAC CQB SBR was a sound investment well worth using some of her unused PTO pay towards.
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok. This thread has broken me down. I will have something quite titillating to share in a couple weeks. Let's just say a new KAC 11.5" CQB rifle, TR24 and some cerakote is involved... All I see are words, and empty promises... I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. 
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What are the preferred mags for these?
20 rounders or 30 rounders? With a 20 round straight PMAG mine almost looks like a mini mk12 (with rail covers on). Didn't know if we set a mag standard. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: What are the preferred mags for these? 20 rounders or 30 rounders? With a 20 round straight PMAG mine almost looks like a mini mk12 (with rail covers on). Didn't know if we set a mag standard. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I hear that. The wife just left her previous employer for a new company. Not only was a good salary increase involved, but her previous employer now needs to pay her for like $7k of unused vacation time. Let's just say I thought all of this out prior, and I'm confident I can convince her that a second KAC CQB SBR was a sound investment well worth using some of her unused PTO pay towards. Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok. This thread has broken me down. I will have something quite titillating to share in a couple weeks. Let's just say a new KAC 11.5" CQB rifle, TR24 and some cerakote is involved... All I see are words, and empty promises... I'll have you tell my wife about words and empty promises after I have to explain to her how one of our previously paid off credit cards abruptly became a high balance credit card. CC use on a hobby that is expensive such as ours is unhealthy for your finances. Cash only in my household. CCs are evil. I hear that. The wife just left her previous employer for a new company. Not only was a good salary increase involved, but her previous employer now needs to pay her for like $7k of unused vacation time. Let's just say I thought all of this out prior, and I'm confident I can convince her that a second KAC CQB SBR was a sound investment well worth using some of her unused PTO pay towards. I've got one of the top 10 coolest wives in the world... but even she would beat my ass with her 8 & 9 irons if I came home and told her some stupid shit like that!
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Originally Posted By jmreagan:
I've got one of the top 10 coolest wives in the world... but even she would beat my ass with her 8 & 9 irons if I came home and told her some stupid shit like that! Originally Posted By jmreagan:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Let's just say I thought all of this out prior, and I'm confident I can convince her that a second KAC CQB SBR was a sound investment well worth using some of her unused PTO pay towards. I've got one of the top 10 coolest wives in the world... but even she would beat my ass with her 8 & 9 irons if I came home and told her some stupid shit like that! Mine just shakes her head.
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... what can? mini4? |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... Sweet! |
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Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
what can? mini4? Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... what can? mini4? Yeah. AAC Mini 4 with a Griffon HMMS over it. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Yeah. AAC Mini 4 with a Griffon HMMS over it. Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... what can? mini4? Yeah. AAC Mini 4 with a Griffon HMMS over it. how do you like it? is it hearing safe? have you shot it next to any other suppressors? |
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Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
how do you like it? is it hearing safe? have you shot it next to any other suppressors? Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... what can? mini4? Yeah. AAC Mini 4 with a Griffon HMMS over it. how do you like it? is it hearing safe? have you shot it next to any other suppressors? The Mini 4 is easily my favorite 5.56 can. And I've used a ton of different 5.56 cans from AAC, SureFire, KAC and Gemtech. The Mini 4 performs really well on 14.5" rifles with longer gas systems (mid, intermediate, etc). AAC has reported getting M4-2000 levels of dB reduction at times with Mini 4s on those types of configurations. Yet it's half the size of an M4-2000. I run my Mini 4s primarily on my 14.5" and 11.5" rifles. I find them to be no hearing pro safe on both of those barrel lengths. |
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Picked up a Leupold Mark AR today in an ADM mount. I guess I now have a MINI RECCE. Got my 50 yard zero, and I was pretty happy with how the ZQ1 M855 I used grouped. Hoping to get out to 100 yards and see what kind of groups I can post up with this rifle and optic combo. It's not a bench gun, but I'm sure I can tighten up my groups compared to irons.  Colt LE6920 with pinned 14.5" SOCOM barrel. Oh, hi. Can I play?  |
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Originally Posted By plante74:
That thing looks loong. 14.5? Originally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By Rizzle901:
Former build I should have kept together after seeing this damn thread lol http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Rizey/20131118_120202_zps1bdfd5e9.jpg Yes that was a 14.5 with a 14inch CMR rail |
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Originally Posted By TurbineGuy: A pinned 14.5" isn't 14.5". So, is this thread only for the SBR guys?? |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
For thread participation - I am for 14.5's that are pinned. We are better than the other RECCE thread Agreed! Who cares if a 14.5" is pinned? Unless your one of those faggy ass must have flavor of the month muzzle device whores of course... |
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Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL: how do you like it? is it hearing safe? have you shot it next to any other suppressors? Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL: Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL: Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... what can? mini4? Yeah. AAC Mini 4 with a Griffon HMMS over it. how do you like it? is it hearing safe? have you shot it next to any other suppressors? |
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Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Any supersonic round is not hearing safe, silencer or not. Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I guess this qualifies: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/29EC3C14-0BFE-46D6-BECE-46DAFECD78BF_zpsz9fwnt8k.jpg 14.5" SBR with a 1-6x should work for now... what can? mini4? Yeah. AAC Mini 4 with a Griffon HMMS over it. how do you like it? is it hearing safe? have you shot it next to any other suppressors? I guess me and several people I know are deaf then. In fairness, I wouldn't advocate running a suppressed 5.56 AR without ear pro just because. It certainly won't be good on the ears over time. But I have fired suppressed 5.56 ARs without ear pro on occasion to test the waters. Those configurations I recently mentioned on the previous page with an AAC Mini 4 for instance, I've even fired them with buddies on each side of me who weren't wearing ear pro who wanted to see how it was. Perfectly fine for them. Wasn't quiet by any means, but they both had "whatever" reactions to the experience. And the shooter is even less exposed to the dBs. And full sized 5.56 cans obviously perform even better than the Mini 4 I'm referencing here. Plenty of people find suppressed 5.56 rifles very no ear pro safe in moderation. Even my LMT MWSE 16" 308 with an AAC SDN-6 is no ear pro safe in moderation. As always, to each their own... |
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Permanent hearing damage can occur at around 100db. No silencer can suppress a supersonic round to that level. Hearing damage doesn't mean a person is suddenly deaf, it means the ability to detect certain frequencies or volumes has degraded. You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. |
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I understand all of that.
I'm simply pointing out that many suppressors can yield a 5.56 rifle hearing safe when needed. As I earlier said, I would not advocate shooting suppressed 5.56 rifles without ear pro just because. But as also earlier said, in moderation, a suppressed 5.56 can be hearing safe. I've been around suppressed 5.56 rifles without ear pro on more than a few occasions. I've never experienced any abnormal discomfort from it. I know several others with the same experiences. Another as already said...to each their own. For me, suppressors are worth their weight in gold, and I'm a huge advocate for their benefits and uses in general. |
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Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Permanent hearing damage can occur at around 100db. No silencer can suppress a supersonic round to that level. Hearing damage doesn't mean a person is suddenly deaf, it means the ability to detect certain frequencies or volumes has degraded. You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. Very true. It's basically not about if you feel discomfort or not.. it is literally damaging your hearing no matter what kind of pain or not pain you are feeling in the moment. Hearing loss does not being at physical discomfort. |
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Originally Posted By JimboJones1:
Very true. It's basically not about if you feel discomfort or not.. it is literally damaging your hearing no matter what kind of pain or not pain you are feeling in the moment. Hearing loss does not being at physical discomfort. Originally Posted By JimboJones1:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Permanent hearing damage can occur at around 100db. No silencer can suppress a supersonic round to that level. Hearing damage doesn't mean a person is suddenly deaf, it means the ability to detect certain frequencies or volumes has degraded. You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. Very true. It's basically not about if you feel discomfort or not.. it is literally damaging your hearing no matter what kind of pain or not pain you are feeling in the moment. Hearing loss does not being at physical discomfort. I get the feeling that my point has been entirely missed by both of you. His staring at the sun comment is the perfect analogy here. Many people look directly at the sun without glasses fairly often. Is their vision slightly effected by it over time? Yes. Are they instantly or painfully being effected by glancing directly at the sun though? In moderation, I'd say no. I see no reason to just freely shoot suppressed 5.56 rifles without ear pro. In fact, as I'm now going to say for the third time, I would recommend against it. But shooting a suppressed 5.56 is like staring directly at the sun. It's not gonna cause pain, blind or deafen you quickly. In fact, it's the exact opposite. And when it comes to suppressors, unlike staring directly at the sun, there are scenarios that can arise where you will actually find yourself needing to use them without ear pro for a practical or even life threatening scenario. And in that scenario, you're gonna be damn glad that you have a suppressor when you are using that rifle without ear pro. I'm frankly shocked that I have even needed to justify this topic to this extent. |
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AR-Ryan, my original question about "hearing safe" should have been worded better and maybe we wouldn't have had the unnecessary back and forth with these guys, sorry! Your response was spot on with what I was wondering. As in, is it still so loud as to cause discomfort without ear pro? We all know hearing damage occurs at much lower db than discomfort and you should always wear ear pro when shooting suppressed or not.
Someone get this thread back on track.... |
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Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Permanent hearing damage can occur at around 100db. No silencer can suppress a supersonic round to that level. Hearing damage doesn't mean a person is suddenly deaf, it means the ability to detect certain frequencies or volumes has degraded. You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. I'll say this: Having shot several hundred rounds through my AEM5 on my Mod1 in open areas, it's still loud enough that I want earpro on. I think in a combat situation I could deal with it, but plinking around, I'm wearing earpro. And that's an 18" barrel, mind you. I used the can on my carbine for a few rounds but I used earpro and see no good reason not to. And that can has more volume than some of these little shorties you guys are using, so there's that. YMMV and all that.
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: Hearing damage doesn't mean a person is suddenly deaf, it means the ability to detect certain frequencies or volumes has degraded. Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Permanent hearing damage can occur at around 100db. No silencer can suppress a supersonic round to that level. Hearing damage doesn't mean a person is suddenly deaf, it means the ability to detect certain frequencies or volumes has degraded. You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. I'll say this: Having shot several hundred rounds through my AEM5 on my Mod1 in open areas, it's still loud enough that I want earpro on. I think in a combat situation I could deal with it, but plinking around, I'm wearing earpro. And that's an 18" barrel, mind you. I used the can on my carbine for a few rounds but I used earpro and see no good reason not to. And that can has more volume than some of these little shorties you guys are using, so there's that. YMMV and all that. |
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Originally Posted By plante74:
You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. I'll say this: Having shot several hundred rounds through my AEM5 on my Mod1 in open areas, it's still loud enough that I want earpro on. I think in a combat situation I could deal with it, but plinking around, I'm wearing earpro. And that's an 18" barrel, mind you. I used the can on my carbine for a few rounds but I used earpro and see no good reason not to. And that can has more volume than some of these little shorties you guys are using, so there's that. YMMV and all that. Wow when I got to try out my aem5 I found it comfortable with no ear pro. Then again my hearing is pretty terrible. Says the Army. Originally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Permanent hearing damage can occur at around 100db. No silencer can suppress a supersonic round to that level. You can look directly at the sun a few moments at a time and not go blind, doesn't mean that's vision safe. I'll say this: Having shot several hundred rounds through my AEM5 on my Mod1 in open areas, it's still loud enough that I want earpro on. I think in a combat situation I could deal with it, but plinking around, I'm wearing earpro. And that's an 18" barrel, mind you. I used the can on my carbine for a few rounds but I used earpro and see no good reason not to. And that can has more volume than some of these little shorties you guys are using, so there's that. YMMV and all that. Wow when I got to try out my aem5 I found it comfortable with no ear pro. Then again my hearing is pretty terrible. Says the Army. Just because shooting with certain cans with certain set ups & ammo might feel comfortable that doesn't mean hearing damage isn't occuring. There is still supersonic crack with 5.56 when using a can. Always wear ear pro with or withour a can. Suppressors suppress some sound & muzzle flash & mask your pos but aren't meant to save all of your hearing. |
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