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Link Posted: 7/14/2024 12:02:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


I’ve got both and prefer the HCS if for no other reason than the coating is more accurate for a clone.  That said, the last barrel I got from Kevin a couple years ago is prob the nicest 18” MK12 barrel I own and as mentioned the finish is more correct for the mod 0/mod 1 also.  I have both and both are nice.  I just prefer the detail HCS adds with the more correct coating on the barrel.  All things being equal just comes down to whether the coating matters to you. Other than that not much difference.  Neither have the correct exterior chamber profile these days.  So I like having that extra detail of the more correct finish.  And I think HCS is cheaper price than PRI these days.
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The OG gray definitely has a vibe to it and it is actually a bit cheaper as you mentioned.

Did you have any trouble getting the gas block on over the gunkoat? I have heard it it's a very tight fit. Did the gas block dimples line up with your gas block?
Link Posted: 7/14/2024 12:34:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By keanenk:


The OG gray definitely has a vibe to it and it is actually a bit cheaper as you mentioned.

Did you have any trouble getting the gas block on over the gunkoat? I have heard it it's a very tight fit. Did the gas block dimples line up with your gas block?
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Originally Posted By keanenk:
Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


I’ve got both and prefer the HCS if for no other reason than the coating is more accurate for a clone.  That said, the last barrel I got from Kevin a couple years ago is prob the nicest 18” MK12 barrel I own and as mentioned the finish is more correct for the mod 0/mod 1 also.  I have both and both are nice.  I just prefer the detail HCS adds with the more correct coating on the barrel.  All things being equal just comes down to whether the coating matters to you. Other than that not much difference.  Neither have the correct exterior chamber profile these days.  So I like having that extra detail of the more correct finish.  And I think HCS is cheaper price than PRI these days.


The OG gray definitely has a vibe to it and it is actually a bit cheaper as you mentioned.

Did you have any trouble getting the gas block on over the gunkoat? I have heard it it's a very tight fit. Did the gas block dimples line up with your gas block?


Slightly easier than the PRI or BA barrels, though that could have been from the gas block itself.  I mean, still went on tight no doubt (as all do), but I didn’t have to fight as much as I remembered fighting on the PRI, especially a BA barrel I had at one point.  Again, just have just been due to different weather or the gas block.  I used a surplus take off coronet/crane on the HCS and some taps with a plastic punch pin and a rubber mallet and it was in place without much fuss.

I can’t remember on the dimples, I’ll have to look.  Can’t remember off the top of my head if it only came with one and I drilled the other myself, or if it came with two.  I’ll try and look through some pics to see.

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ETA: Only pic I’m finding of when I got the barrel is this one. I’ll take a peek underneath later and see if I can discern if I drilled the dimples myself.

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ETA 2:  Found another pic.  Looks like it wasn’t dimpled so I apparently drilled them myself.

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Link Posted: 7/14/2024 5:33:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Lunar Concepts Hot Pocket
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Love these guys, they are right down the road from me
Link Posted: 7/14/2024 5:41:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
i'd get the 1:7 twist for 77gr
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Originally Posted By Wubaru:
I was wanting to buy a Pri mod h rifle.  I already have a pri mk12 mod 0 upper with a 1/8 and with BH 262 ammo it is super accurate.  Should i get the 1/8 twist for the mod h or the faster spin of 1/7?  I am only shooting 77 grain BH pills.  Thoughts?  

Thanks!
i'd get the 1:7 twist for 77gr


Agreed. Unless I’m building a rifle designed to smoke prairie dogs with 30gr whatevers, I go 1:7.

Never know when you’ll need to sling IR tracer rounds
Link Posted: 7/14/2024 9:01:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:

I just don't understand that. The new ee is extremely easy to use..
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

He's pissed about the new EE.

I just don't understand that. The new ee is extremely easy to use..


No, it sucks for posting multiple items that aren't the same. It makes way more work for the seller.
Link Posted: 7/14/2024 11:09:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RedFox1911:


No, it sucks for posting multiple items that aren't the same. It makes way more work for the seller.
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Actually my biggest gripe and why I stopped selling here.....can't just put 5 scopes in a used optic is ad, or 10 upper parts for an AR. Only 1 price per ad, so then u gotta do old school type it out like before under that stupid info box they make ya do lololol.

They took away features.
Link Posted: 7/15/2024 10:12:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:

Slightly easier than the PRI or BA barrels, though that could have been from the gas block itself.  I mean, still went on tight no doubt (as all do), but I didn’t have to fight as much as I remembered fighting on the PRI, especially a BA barrel I had at one point.  Again, just have just been due to different weather or the gas block.  I used a surplus take off coronet/crane on the HCS and some taps with a plastic punch pin and a rubber mallet and it was in place without much fuss.

I can’t remember on the dimples, I’ll have to look.  Can’t remember off the top of my head if it only came with one and I drilled the other myself, or if it came with two.  I’ll try and look through some pics to see.

Pic for pic thread:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/IMG_5718_jpeg-3266447.JPG

ETA: Only pic I’m finding of when I got the barrel is this one. I’ll take a peek underneath later and see if I can discern if I drilled the dimples myself.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/IMG_5721_jpeg-3266454.JPG

ETA 2:  Found another pic.  Looks like it wasn’t dimpled so I apparently drilled them myself.

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I checked in with HCS and it should have one dimple opposite the gas port. I guess there are some iterations of the barrel over the years, but thanks for checking and nice MK12!
Link Posted: 7/15/2024 5:43:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

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Danke kind Sir.
Link Posted: 7/16/2024 12:37:12 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/17/2024 11:35:02 AM EST
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If there’s anybody been stalking and praying for a rail I have a new unopened not gonna be built on as I have my Mod 1 and NSW covered. Also have the MWS Bipod adapter and rail mounted sling swivel I’m a post Kate this evening but if your can hit me via IM it’s going for retail not EE/Gunbroker prices
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 12:27:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH:
If there’s anybody been stalking and praying for a rail I have a new unopened not gonna be built on as I have my Mod 1 and NSW covered. Also have the MWS Bipod adapter and rail mounted sling swivel I’m a post Kate this evening but if your can hit me via IM it’s going for retail not EE/Gunbroker prices
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Sent you an IM with a question. Thanks!
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 12:31:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH:
If there’s anybody been stalking and praying for a rail I have a new unopened not gonna be built on as I have my Mod 1 and NSW covered. Also have the MWS Bipod adapter and rail mounted sling swivel I’m a post Kate this evening but if your can hit me via IM it’s going for retail not EE/Gunbroker prices
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I also sent a message earlier about the rail and would probably be interested in the adapter.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 12:55:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH] [#13]
I’ve replied to all thus far will work with this clone crew only this evening  and for you Mod 0 boys I have a new ARMS #32 with the HAVEBLUE83 mod removing the lever stop also I’m done cloning

ETA:  We now have a very happy fellow clone brother to look forward to seeing a new Mod 1 show up
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 1:42:45 PM EST
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Cool pics.  A straight pmag 20 with the floor plate is the chefs kiss.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 1:45:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH:
I’ve replied to all thus far will work with this clone crew only this evening  and for you Mod 0 boys I have a new ARMS #32 with the HAVEBLUE83 mod removing the lever stop also I’m done cloning

ETA:  We now have a very happy fellow clone brother to look forward to seeing a new Mod 1 show up
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Thanks. Payment was sent..
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 3:31:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


Cool pics.  A straight pmag 20 with the floor plate is the chefs kiss.
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


Cool pics.  A straight pmag 20 with the floor plate is the chefs kiss.

Thank you. My Mk12 didn’t come with aluminum 20 rounders so I bought those PMags to use instead.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 5:08:52 PM EST
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Killed some deer. If you wanna hunt with these the 77 TMK is your best bet. Dropped one just shy of 400 yards.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 5:50:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hydrostatic_cling:
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Killed some deer. If you wanna hunt with these the 77 TMK is your best bet. Dropped one just shy of 400 yards.
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Could extend your lethality rage by adding some paint.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 6:00:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hydrostatic_cling:
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Killed some deer. If you wanna hunt with these the 77 TMK is your best bet. Dropped one just shy of 400 yards.
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Pics of deer? I’ve read elsewhere the 77gr TMKs do hell on deer. Makes sense, based on the top and thin-ish jacket.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 6:31:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Could extend your lethality rage by adding some paint.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Could extend your lethality rage by adding some paint.

Maybe. But it would come off on my seats since this usually sits in my truck when checking crops.

Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Pics of deer? I’ve read elsewhere the 77gr TMKs do hell on deer. Makes sense, based on the top and thin-ish jacket.

It’s not much to see from the outside. Tiny entrance, maybe a quarter size exit. If they were close it doesn’t exit and just frags the chest. I usually do neck shots if they’re close enough. Those are tiny hole in and half dollar exit but it turns the neck into goop. Haven’t seen one go more than 100 yards (no heart and no lungs they still can book it). Shot over a dozen deer in the last year with this bullet.

Can’t say there’s a mammal in North America that’ll tank a 77 TMK to the chest or neck area inside 300 yards.


MK12 is a really great field rifle for hunting clearcut areas. I just want to add an offset Aimpoint to this one. The NXS F1 reticle on 3.5 power is way too fine.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 6:34:27 PM EST
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Quick question. What's the best barrel to use with the long collar for a mod 1? I want to make sure everything will line up for the supressor.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 6:39:07 PM EST
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Unless you toss it in with the paint still wet or have some bougie seat material, you'll never see it.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 7:48:47 PM EST
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It’s nice leather mr bold.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 8:47:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Unless you toss it in with the paint still wet or have some bougie seat material, you'll never see it.
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I wonder how many of your 100,000+ posts is telling people to paint their blasters.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 8:50:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:

I wonder how many of your 100,000+ posts is telling people to paint their blasters.
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Originally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Unless you toss it in with the paint still wet or have some bougie seat material, you'll never see it.

I wonder how many of your 100,000+ posts is telling people to paint their blasters.

Not nearly enough.
Link Posted: 7/17/2024 9:01:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Quick question. What's the best barrel to use with the long collar for a mod 1? I want to make sure everything will line up for the supressor.
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Won’t matter as much on a mod 1 since the FSGB isn’t there to butt up against the long collar.  I’d personally go HCS or PRI but some others out there that are popular as well.
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 5:45:05 AM EST
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I know they have used the Mk5HD and PRS on separate rifles but, is there any pictures of them being used together on the same rifle?

Getting tempted to put a PRS stock on mine
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 7:15:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Quick question. What's the best barrel to use with the long collar for a mod 1? I want to make sure everything will line up for the supressor.
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Douglas. From whoever you want to buy it from.
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 7:16:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
I know they have used the Mk5HD and PRS on separate rifles but, is there any pictures of them being used together on the same rifle?

Getting tempted to put a PRS stock on mine
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There is a Mk6 and PRS rig.

PRS just seems way too chunky and heavy for a mk12. I know it's no lightweight rig but with a Sopmod it still makes it only a few inches longer than a carbine.
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 7:23:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


There is a Mk6 and PRS rig.

PRS just seems way too chunky and heavy for a mk12. I know it's no lightweight rig but with a Sopmod it still makes it only a few inches longer than a carbine.
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That is true, always forgot how heavy the PRS stock is. Right now I have the A1 stock on it
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 7:25:02 AM EST
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For my MOD 0 bro's I just threw a New A.R.M.S #32 up in the New Upper section sporting the @Haveblue83 Lever stop removal mod..............................I'm not chasing that fucking rabbit I'm building some bullshit dick'em down play rifles the rest of the summer/fall...............................Will also concentrate of getting the NSW and Mod 1 broke in right and scopes straight as all I've done the last 3 years is blow money out my ass and chase rabbits!!  It was fun tho but fuck it I'm taking a brAke...........
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 7:26:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:


That is true, always forgot how heavy the PRS stock is. Right now I have the A1 stock on it
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PRS ain't got shit on the LMT DMR which by the way I'm in possession of a damn pristine one if interested........................

I too have a love/hate with the A1 so I bought two H&R A1 Lowers lol and built a dedicated A1 lower and a dedicated adjustable (Gen 1 LMT Sopmod) on the other
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 7:28:46 AM EST
[#33]
Anyone have a lead on colt ambi selector?
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 8:27:23 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/18/2024 9:49:20 AM EST
[#35]
Midway has IMI razor core on sale
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 10:08:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Shlouf:
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Yeah just bought 240rds with a 20% off coupon which appeared to only be one time use. Probably should've bought more but it's not like it'll never not be on a sale again.
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 11:05:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: tarheel7734] [#37]
For an optic on the mod 1 would you go with leupold mk5 3.6-18 tremor illum, nightforce nx-8 2.5-20 in either mil-xt or tremor 3? What mounts would you do with each?
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 12:08:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
For an optic on the mod 2 would you go with leupold mk5 3.6-18 tremor illum, nightforce nx-8 2.5-20 in either mil-xt or tremor 3? What mounts would you do with each?
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What is a 'Mod 2'?
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 12:29:20 PM EST
[#39]
Sorry mod 1. Was a typo. Was thinking mk 12 as well as mod 1 and just put mod 2 lol.
Link Posted: 7/18/2024 12:43:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
I know they have used the Mk5HD and PRS on separate rifles but, is there any pictures of them being used together on the same rifle?

Getting tempted to put a PRS stock on mine
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PRS is definitely a boat anchor.  They're cool if you're not carrying it anywhere IMO.

PRS and Mark 6


PRS and tano Mark 5


PRS and ATACR 1-8




Link Posted: 7/18/2024 12:51:32 PM EST
[#41]
Why are Mod 1's so sexy? It's like they literally said "lets try to make this rifle the most sexy". It's tied only with the M110.
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 8:57:54 AM EST
[#42]
Well I decided on the Nightforce nx8 2.5-20 for my optic on my mod 1 build. Problem now is choosing rings or mount. Ant suggestions?
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 9:10:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Well I decided on the Nightforce nx8 2.5-20 for my optic on my mod 1 build. Problem now is choosing rings or mount. Ant suggestions?
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A mount 100%. Something with a slight cantilever. Rear of optic should be flush with the back of the charging handle on most optics on an AR. For good eye relief and LOP.
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 9:16:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


A mount 100%. Something with a slight cantilever. Rear of optic should be flush with the back of the charging handle on most optics on an AR. For good eye relief and LOP.
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What height works with the 50mm scope bell?
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 9:26:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:

What height works with the 50mm scope bell?
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


A mount 100%. Something with a slight cantilever. Rear of optic should be flush with the back of the charging handle on most optics on an AR. For good eye relief and LOP.

What height works with the 50mm scope bell?
i would not recommend running a cant on the mount.  This is an AR, not some extreme long range rifle.  Just stick with a 0 cant mount.  I prefer the 1.7 height mounts tbh for most magnified optics.  It doesn't force me to scrunch my head as much into my shoulders like a 1.54.

Link Posted: 7/19/2024 9:32:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
i would not recommend running a cant on the mount.  This is an AR, not some extreme long range rifle.  Just stick with a 0 cant mount.  I prefer the 1.7 height mounts tbh for most magnified optics.  It doesn't force me to scrunch my head as much into my shoulders like a 1.54.

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I run badger 1.7 c1 mounts on my Block ii and ris iii builds , but they are atacr 1-8 scopes.
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 10:18:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:

I run badger 1.7 c1 mounts on my Block ii and ris iii builds , but they are atacr 1-8 scopes.
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Depends on your facial structure for the height for cheek weld. I'd do 1.5" 0 moa for sure. 1.375" is the best cheek weld with a Sopmod for me. 50mm will clear on 1.375" depending on what caps your gonna run. Tenebraex might not clear.
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 10:34:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


Depends on your facial structure for the height for cheek weld. I'd do 1.5" 0 moa for sure. 1.375" is the best cheek weld with a Sopmod for me. 50mm will clear on 1.375" depending on what caps your gonna run. Tenebraex might not clear.
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I will run the tenebraex most likely. I ordered the 1.54 c1 mount. If for some reason it doesn't work for me I'll do a 1.7, but most of shooting with thus will either be prone or bench most likely as I have my carbines for everything else. Pretty sure I have everything ordered now.
Link Posted: 7/19/2024 2:01:06 PM EST
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Ok first part came in. I will replace the trigger to a ssa-e. More parts will be here Monday.
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Link Posted: 7/19/2024 2:20:39 PM EST
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nice.   best way to go for the m16a1 lower
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