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10/28/2016 10:53:57 PM EDT
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[quote]Originally Posted By Movistar:
Shooting unsuppressed is for the birds and criminals[/quote]
10/28/2016 11:02:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Inspired by Blue. You're my boy, Blue!

10/28/2016 11:02:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83][Edited] [#3]




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Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.

Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
10/28/2016 11:27:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:

  looks great! love seeing all these differen Mod H carbines show up here.


i have ran a KAC vert grip...but it aint kosher that i have ever seen. only one was a RVG in FDE.
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Crappy photo but I'll get some better ones soon. Newly completed:

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae16/cbfurg/Mobile%20Uploads/ec9c1bc5-8e48-4df4-a996-67e13ec460ee.jpg

  looks great! love seeing all these differen Mod H carbines show up here.


i have ran a KAC vert grip...but it aint kosher that i have ever seen. only one was a RVG in FDE.


Thanks for the info! I hadn't seen one either that I could remember though I'm far from an expert. Most of the ones I have seen are clones.
10/29/2016 6:48:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


Ballistic Advantage, Bison Armory. Custom order from PRI or CLE.
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Originally Posted By Will816:
What's a good source for the barrel with the SPR profile at the muzzle? I really like Rainier's ultramatch and Rock Creek barrels, but they don't seem to have the step down for the collar on the 16" barrels.


Ballistic Advantage, Bison Armory. Custom order from PRI or CLE.

How are the BA barrels? They seem like a great deal at around $200, but are they as accurate as some of the other offerings out there?
Don't come back to Afghanistan. -Taliban, 5/31/14

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10/29/2016 7:04:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:

How are the BA barrels? They seem like a great deal at around $200, but are they as accurate as some of the other offerings out there?
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By Will816:
What's a good source for the barrel with the SPR profile at the muzzle? I really like Rainier's ultramatch and Rock Creek barrels, but they don't seem to have the step down for the collar on the 16" barrels.


Ballistic Advantage, Bison Armory. Custom order from PRI or CLE.

How are the BA barrels? They seem like a great deal at around $200, but are they as accurate as some of the other offerings out there?



BA barrels are guaranteed sub moa with match ammunitio, iirc
10/29/2016 7:15:51 AM EDT
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BA barrels are guaranteed sub moa with match ammunitio, iirc
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By Will816:
What's a good source for the barrel with the SPR profile at the muzzle? I really like Rainier's ultramatch and Rock Creek barrels, but they don't seem to have the step down for the collar on the 16" barrels.


Ballistic Advantage, Bison Armory. Custom order from PRI or CLE.

How are the BA barrels? They seem like a great deal at around $200, but are they as accurate as some of the other offerings out there?



BA barrels are guaranteed sub moa with match ammunitio, iirc

Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?
Don't come back to Afghanistan. -Taliban, 5/31/14

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46381179@N04/
10/29/2016 11:49:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83][Edited] [#8]


 
Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.

Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
10/29/2016 1:13:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:

Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?
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Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By Will816:
What's a good source for the barrel with the SPR profile at the muzzle? I really like Rainier's ultramatch and Rock Creek barrels, but they don't seem to have the step down for the collar on the 16" barrels.


Ballistic Advantage, Bison Armory. Custom order from PRI or CLE.

How are the BA barrels? They seem like a great deal at around $200, but are they as accurate as some of the other offerings out there?



BA barrels are guaranteed sub moa with match ammunitio, iirc

Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!
10/29/2016 2:56:55 PM EDT
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Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.

Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
10/29/2016 2:59:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
<a href="https://postimg.org/image/3zbfvy1ab/" target="_blank">https://s13.postimg.org/4c2u24jk7/20161029_131846.jpg</a>  
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I love pics of that range.  I need to move.  Great pic
10/29/2016 5:39:25 PM EDT
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Could you guys list your parts and place you found them.

Very nice builds, i just caught the Holland Virus
10/29/2016 5:48:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By uzigalil:
Could you guys list your parts and place you found them.

Very nice builds, i just caught the Holland Virus
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There are a lot of parts, could you tell us which parts your looking for and which variation your going for.  For example do you want the ace stock or one of the other variations, which barrel are you thinking about?  Give us some guidance and we can better help, but be warned sometimes clone builds take a little more time.  

I would start by getting an A1 stripped brownells lower while they are still in stock.
10/29/2016 7:25:47 PM EDT
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can u list the parts u have so far and where u got them?
10/29/2016 7:28:02 PM EDT
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Could you guys list your parts and place you found them.





Very nice builds, i just caught the Holland Virus
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I'll bite:

 





-80% lower.....free from friend. sent to braceman for A1 and engraving. $149. duracoat: $25?
-B&T Atlas BT-10 clamp on bipod. $250 B&T direct.


-barrel: special WOA run from Twitchy. $200 16" 1/7 med/heavy contour w/ops cuts.


-badger special run long collar $50 Badger ordnance. (go adco as they are stocking long ones now)


-allen/ops brake. $90? Adco.


-FDE forearm. $325 PRI direct


-FDE long bottom rail. $35 PRI direct


-Adjustable Gas block (IM CHEATING!!!). SLR rifleworks. :P


-RECCE RAIL. $150 PRI direct


-Diemaco Upper. $75 from a friend


-Colt bcg: severance.


-ACE Gen 1 M4 Socom stock: $120 from Armslist.


-geissele SSA-E trigger. $225 G man dealer friend.


-NF A107 rings. $150 Euro Optic


-Leupy Mk4 3.5-10x40 mil dot M3. $620 shipped, used. EE


-DSA ambi auto safety: $40? dsarms iirc.

-Magpul RVG. $20ish. cabelas.


-small parts from my old gun shop.




bonus mode:

hornady lock n load press, scale, RCBS trim master thing, hornady measurer and dies, about $500.




BR-4 primers: $59/1000  

IMR 8208 XBR $29/lb

Hornady 75gr match/Sierra 77rg OTM bullets $20/100












there ya go. dont add it up. it sucks balls lol












 
Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.

Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
10/29/2016 10:38:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Originally Posted By Will816:
Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price
Don't come back to Afghanistan. -Taliban, 5/31/14

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46381179@N04/
10/29/2016 10:43:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Originally Posted By Will816:
Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price


I hear that. I guess I've never heard of anyone buying a BA and saying it wasn't shooting as well as a different manufacturer. Not saying that isn't the case but that's been my experience. I've had a rainier ultramatch as well and the fit and finish seems to be on par. Ultimately, if it's something that is weighing on you, get the barrel that scratches that itch. I've been good to go with BA but then again, if the rifle can shoot sub moa, I'm the weakest link, not the barrel!
10/29/2016 10:47:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:


I hear that. I guess I've never heard of anyone buying a BA and saying it wasn't shooting as well as a different manufacturer. Not saying that isn't the case but that's been my experience. I've had a rainier ultramatch as well and the fit and finish seems to be on par. Ultimately, if it's something that is weighing on you, get the barrel that scratches that itch. I've been good to go with BA but then again, if the rifle can shoot sub moa, I'm the weakest link, not the barrel!
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price


I hear that. I guess I've never heard of anyone buying a BA and saying it wasn't shooting as well as a different manufacturer. Not saying that isn't the case but that's been my experience. I've had a rainier ultramatch as well and the fit and finish seems to be on par. Ultimately, if it's something that is weighing on you, get the barrel that scratches that itch. I've been good to go with BA but then again, if the rifle can shoot sub moa, I'm the weakest link, not the barrel!

I'd get the ultramatch if I was building a Mod 0 or 1, but their 16" version doesn't have the profile for the collar
Don't come back to Afghanistan. -Taliban, 5/31/14

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10/29/2016 11:05:40 PM EDT
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i had a $260 rainier arms select medcon. it shot .75moa with bh.



my woa shoots under that with my handloads and .75moa iirc with bh. it was $200. ive done .3moa 3 shot groups with it. a few .4 and some .6moa. its done it frequently with a rear bag.




id honestly never pay more than 250 for a barrel unless its cut rifling and garunteed to do 1/4min groups. this woa is nasty.
Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.

Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
10/29/2016 11:19:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:


I hear that. I guess I've never heard of anyone buying a BA and saying it wasn't shooting as well as a different manufacturer. Not saying that isn't the case but that's been my experience. I've had a rainier ultramatch as well and the fit and finish seems to be on par. Ultimately, if it's something that is weighing on you, get the barrel that scratches that itch. I've been good to go with BA but then again, if the rifle can shoot sub moa, I'm the weakest link, not the barrel!
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Originally Posted By Will816:
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price


I hear that. I guess I've never heard of anyone buying a BA and saying it wasn't shooting as well as a different manufacturer. Not saying that isn't the case but that's been my experience. I've had a rainier ultramatch as well and the fit and finish seems to be on par. Ultimately, if it's something that is weighing on you, get the barrel that scratches that itch. I've been good to go with BA but then again, if the rifle can shoot sub moa, I'm the weakest link, not the barrel!


BA makes a good barrel, they will shot MOA with five shot groups at 100 yards no problem, and occasionally .75 MOA groups.  MOA is excellent and the military sniper school considers a barrel that shots MOA a keeper.  I know that everyone these days seems to claim that their barrels shoot MOA but please keep in mind that all of those guarantees are with three shot groups.  Rainer for example makes a fine barrel, but it isn't going to consistently shoot .50 MOA with five round groups.  

If all you are wanting to do is shoot the smallest groups possible then I would go with a Douglass or CLE barrel, mine are at most .25 MOA better than my BA.  If you are wanting to hit steel at 600 yards and rarely shoot groups but still want great precision than BA is what I would go with; is an additional $300 worth .25 MOA? To some it is, if I had to redo things today I don't know that it would be. BA is a great barrel and I would never have second thoughts about using one, in fact I don't.

Parts list below (please keep in mind that this came piece, most from EE, not all at once.  Though I've had the upper built since 2014 I only recently moved to the A1 lower for this gun.  It's a slow process as it should be for most people.

Upper
Stripped upper with door and FA bought on EE   $50
Carrier from EE $30
Douglass barrel from HCS with matching bolt    $450
Gas block DS Arms (MK12 Clone) & gas tube    $30
Charging handle Gas Buster $70 on EE
PRI break and collar $150 on EE
Handguard $250 with long bottom rail on EE

Lower
Brownells A1 lower $175 shipped and registration fees
Geissele SAE $180 Primary Arms
Buffer tube kit with H-buffer  Primary Arms? $40
Magpul ACS stock EE trade for LMT SOPMOD
Lower Parts kit (no trigger) Joe Bob out fitters $30

Accessories
Scope Vari-x III 3.5-10 $700 on EE
Larue LT-104 Mount $200 from Larue
Harris Bipod with ARMS mount $160 on EE

I shoot 77gr SMK, or Nosler behind 23.2gr 8208.  

10/30/2016 9:59:32 PM EDT
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I'll bite:  



-80% lower.....free from friend. sent to braceman for A1 and engraving. $149. duracoat: $25?-B&T Atlas BT-10 clamp on bipod. $250 B&T direct.

-barrel: special WOA run from Twitchy. $200 16" 1/7 med/heavy contour w/ops cuts.

-badger special run long collar $50 Badger ordnance. (go adco as they are stocking long ones now)

-allen/ops brake. $90? Adco.

-FDE forearm. $325 PRI direct

-FDE long bottom rail. $35 PRI direct

-Adjustable Gas block (IM CHEATING!!!). SLR rifleworks. :P

-RECCE RAIL. $150 PRI direct

-Diemaco Upper. $75 from a friend

-Colt bcg: severance.

-ACE Gen 1 M4 Socom stock: $120 from Armslist.

-geissele SSA-E trigger. $225 G man dealer friend.

-NF A107 rings. $150 Euro Optic

-Leupy Mk4 3.5-10x40 mil dot M3. $620 shipped, used. EE

-DSA ambi auto safety: $40? dsarms iirc.

-Magpul RVG. $20ish. cabelas.

-small parts from my old gun shop.





bonus mode:

hornady lock n load press, scale, RCBS trim master thing, hornady measurer and dies, about $500.





BR-4 primers: $59/1000  

IMR 8208 XBR $29/lb

Hornady 75gr match/Sierra 77rg OTM bullets $20/100




there ya go. dont add it up. it sucks balls lol
 
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Originally Posted By uzigalil:

Could you guys list your parts and place you found them.



Very nice builds, i just caught the Holland Virus
I'll bite:  



-80% lower.....free from friend. sent to braceman for A1 and engraving. $149. duracoat: $25?-B&T Atlas BT-10 clamp on bipod. $250 B&T direct.

-barrel: special WOA run from Twitchy. $200 16" 1/7 med/heavy contour w/ops cuts.

-badger special run long collar $50 Badger ordnance. (go adco as they are stocking long ones now)

-allen/ops brake. $90? Adco.

-FDE forearm. $325 PRI direct

-FDE long bottom rail. $35 PRI direct

-Adjustable Gas block (IM CHEATING!!!). SLR rifleworks. :P

-RECCE RAIL. $150 PRI direct

-Diemaco Upper. $75 from a friend

-Colt bcg: severance.

-ACE Gen 1 M4 Socom stock: $120 from Armslist.

-geissele SSA-E trigger. $225 G man dealer friend.

-NF A107 rings. $150 Euro Optic

-Leupy Mk4 3.5-10x40 mil dot M3. $620 shipped, used. EE

-DSA ambi auto safety: $40? dsarms iirc.

-Magpul RVG. $20ish. cabelas.

-small parts from my old gun shop.





bonus mode:

hornady lock n load press, scale, RCBS trim master thing, hornady measurer and dies, about $500.





BR-4 primers: $59/1000  

IMR 8208 XBR $29/lb

Hornady 75gr match/Sierra 77rg OTM bullets $20/100




there ya go. dont add it up. it sucks balls lol
 
Blue, you still run the offset red dot? I think I remember you had something setup in the offset position... Not sure if I've ever seen one on military Holland...
10/30/2016 10:05:22 PM EDT
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There are a couple on the first pages pics.  Look at the guy climbing the hill/cliff side and the pair on the table.  One of the first couple of pics also has an Aimpoint
10/30/2016 10:23:42 PM EDT
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There are a couple on the first pages pics.  Look at the guy climbing the hill/cliff side and the pair on the table.  One of the first couple of pics also has an Aimpoint
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Thanks. Looks like an RMR...
10/31/2016 12:15:30 AM EDT
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Blue, you still run the offset red dot? I think I remember you had something setup in the offset position... Not sure if I've ever seen one on military Holland...
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:


Originally Posted By uzigalil:

Could you guys list your parts and place you found them.



Very nice builds, i just caught the Holland Virus
I'll bite:  



-80% lower.....free from friend. sent to braceman for A1 and engraving. $149. duracoat: $25?-B&T Atlas BT-10 clamp on bipod. $250 B&T direct.

-barrel: special WOA run from Twitchy. $200 16" 1/7 med/heavy contour w/ops cuts.

-badger special run long collar $50 Badger ordnance. (go adco as they are stocking long ones now)

-allen/ops brake. $90? Adco.

-FDE forearm. $325 PRI direct

-FDE long bottom rail. $35 PRI direct

-Adjustable Gas block (IM CHEATING!!!). SLR rifleworks. :P

-RECCE RAIL. $150 PRI direct

-Diemaco Upper. $75 from a friend

-Colt bcg: severance.

-ACE Gen 1 M4 Socom stock: $120 from Armslist.

-geissele SSA-E trigger. $225 G man dealer friend.

-NF A107 rings. $150 Euro Optic

-Leupy Mk4 3.5-10x40 mil dot M3. $620 shipped, used. EE

-DSA ambi auto safety: $40? dsarms iirc.

-Magpul RVG. $20ish. cabelas.

-small parts from my old gun shop.





bonus mode:

hornady lock n load press, scale, RCBS trim master thing, hornady measurer and dies, about $500.





BR-4 primers: $59/1000  

IMR 8208 XBR $29/lb

Hornady 75gr match/Sierra 77rg OTM bullets $20/100
there ya go. dont add it up. it sucks balls lol
 


Blue, you still run the offset red dot? I think I remember you had something setup in the offset position... Not sure if I've ever seen one on military Holland...




 
i did. it wanst clone spec but i liked it. currently trying to save up for a clone spec setup.....h-1/t-1 on a larue ring mount most likely. like page 1 rifle.
Please excuse my ways. Iraq Veteran. 45B.

Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
10/31/2016 1:41:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chenault:
There are a couple on the first pages pics.  Look at the guy climbing the hill/cliff side and the pair on the table.  One of the first couple of pics also has an Aimpoint
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Yeah, I count at least 3 pics of them on the first page.  Fire up your Balls Clonediseased.    Your Eyeballs.  







Oooops, I guess you meant an aimpoint specifically.  Blue's original set up was a..... Oh shoot, now I forget the name of that 100 one that you had....  Anyways... that third pictures looks like an aimpoint.  

ETA:  Bushnell TRS25, right haveblue83, you had for a while on there?
10/31/2016 3:36:05 PM EDT
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So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.



So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA



Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:


Originally Posted By Will816:

Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?




I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!



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Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!



So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.



So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA



Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price




 
The 16" Bison on my H shoots a bit tighter than the 18" Douglas on my Mod 1. The 10.5" Bison on my 300BLK H shoots great as well.
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10/31/2016 3:53:37 PM EDT
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  The 16" Bison on my H shoots a bit tighter than the 18" Douglas on my Mod 1. The 10.5" Bison on my 300BLK H shoots great as well.
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Originally Posted By Will816:
Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price

  The 16" Bison on my H shoots a bit tighter than the 18" Douglas on my Mod 1. The 10.5" Bison on my 300BLK H shoots great as well.

Thanks, I'll check them out. I'm officially on the Mod H train and in the process of buying what I need to convert my new 6920.

The suppressor is where I'm drawing a blank. I'm currently trying to find a shop in southern Idaho that carries Allen Engineering suppressors but I may end up just getting one from Adco and doing a transfer.
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10/31/2016 11:49:01 PM EDT
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Blue, you have the coolest rifle in this thread...so much character. Almost makes me want to build a Holland.

But I gotta say...the gun I really want is your friend's M24.

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11/1/2016 1:02:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:

Thanks, I'll check them out. I'm officially on the Mod H train and in the process of buying what I need to convert my new 6920.

The suppressor is where I'm drawing a blank. I'm currently trying to find a shop in southern Idaho that carries Allen Engineering suppressors but I may end up just getting one from Adco and doing a transfer.
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:
Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Originally Posted By Will816:
Yeah I know they're guaranteed sub-moa, but it seems like everyone is making that guarantee these days. My chrome lined Colt M4 barrel is sub-moa with match ammo. I'm just thinking do I want to spend $200 for that, or would I feel better springing for something higher end?


I've got BA barrels in both my mk12s. I'm not sure what you're paying for when you say "higher end". If the barrel is accurate and made out of the right materials, what more are you getting with more money? I got my mod h barrel HERE for a great price. Hopefully that helps!

EDIT:

Looks like they have free shipping at the moment as well!

So here is an example of higher end:I've got a Rainier Arms Select barrel and two Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels. My dad also has a Select barrel. All 4 of them are sub-MOA per Rainier's guarantee. But, the "higher end" Ultramatch barrels are significantly better. 1/2 MOA or better.

So I guess that's what I'm getting at. If a certain barrel might be a little more accurate or more reputable, I'd prefer that. But if the BA is going to be as accurate as a more expensive, higher end barrel, I'll get the BA

Edit: thanks for the link. They're definitely a sweet price

  The 16" Bison on my H shoots a bit tighter than the 18" Douglas on my Mod 1. The 10.5" Bison on my 300BLK H shoots great as well.

Thanks, I'll check them out. I'm officially on the Mod H train and in the process of buying what I need to convert my new 6920.

The suppressor is where I'm drawing a blank. I'm currently trying to find a shop in southern Idaho that carries Allen Engineering suppressors but I may end up just getting one from Adco and doing a transfer.


For the AE can, i would also check with Capitol Armory. They are a dealer for AE. I have bought 2 AEM5 and a AEM30 through them. great service and very fast form3.
11/1/2016 9:28:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By minion42:


Blue, you have the coolest rifle in this thread...so much character. Almost makes me want to build a Holland.



But I gotta say...the gun I really want is your friend's M24.






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Originally Posted By minion42:


Blue, you have the coolest rifle in this thread...so much character. Almost makes me want to build a Holland.



But I gotta say...the gun I really want is your friend's M24.






i have the wrong can. its def not the best. luckily my A1 mafia is keeping me above water lol.

 



that M24 is neat....but it dont make me feel like the H do!
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It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
11/2/2016 2:42:58 PM EDT
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Long collars are back in stock, finally get to order the correct one.

SPR Collars are in stock as of the time this email was sent.
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11/2/2016 8:53:13 PM EDT
[#32]
I noticed a complete PRI "MOD Holland" rifle on GB in FDE. Not clone kosher but fairly close besides the big PRI logo on the side of the lower receiver and Troy sights.
11/2/2016 9:07:09 PM EDT
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Long collars are back in stock, finally get to order the correct one.

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Originally Posted By prskiller:
Long collars are back in stock, finally get to order the correct one.

SPR Collars are in stock as of the time this email was sent.
This email is to inform you that the item you placed a monitor on has arrived and is in stock, at this moment. Please understand that this in no way has reserved the item, or placed it on order for you. This is simply a notification of arrival. We recommend you go to our site and place the order as quickly as possible, to reserve that item.

We are NO LONGER taking Back Orders due to the logistics involved, caused by long delays in manufacturer deliveries. Our website inventory system is based on PROCESSED orders, and may actually show the item as in stock "Buy Now", however, if other customers have ordered the number of items we have, then your order will be canceled. If you receive a cancellation, within a day or two after placing an order, then it means that the items were placed on orders prior to yours, and we have run out of that item.

We here at ADCO appreciate your business and will do our best to provide the high quality products and services you have come to expect. If you have any question, or comments, please feel free to email, [email protected] or [email protected]. Thank you again for your patronage.

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Thank you sir
11/3/2016 10:20:20 AM EDT
[#34]
So I ended up getting a steal on a 16" RA Ultramatch barrel, and I also bought one of those collars that just came in stock at Adco. The barrel will need to get profiled for the collar, looking at Adco's contouring options, it looks like they have a service that profiles the barrel and includes a "custom" collar for $120, or they have a service that just contours for $60 but it looks like it's for the M4 .7x.7 step and not the SPR contour. I don't really fit either option, but I think my needs are closer to the M4 step. Is this something I should just get in touch with Adco for? Anyone else had a SPR profile done by Adco?
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11/3/2016 5:32:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:
So I ended up getting a steal on a 16" RA Ultramatch barrel, and I also bought one of those collars that just came in stock at Adco. The barrel will need to get profiled for the collar, looking at Adco's contouring options, it looks like they have a service that profiles the barrel and includes a "custom" collar for $120, or they have a service that just contours for $60 but it looks like it's for the M4 .7x.7 step and not the SPR contour. I don't really fit either option, but I think my needs are closer to the M4 step. Is this something I should just get in touch with Adco for? Anyone else had a SPR profile done by Adco?
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Posted the question to Adco, apparently they "can't" do the SPR profile to this barrel. I'd either need to just get the M4 step and use the M4 AEM5 collar, or get an 18" barrel with the SPR contour. I don't know why they could do the M4 step contour but not the SPR contour. I'm gonna throw the mic on the end of the barrel because unless it's too skinny already, it doesn't make any sense
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11/3/2016 7:26:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Magtech/CBC MK262 Mod 1 77gr 5.56 available here. Price is $600/shipped for 1000rds, if anyone is interested. Just ordered a case
11/3/2016 9:43:07 PM EDT
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Magtech/CBC MK262 Mod 1 77gr 5.56 available here. Price is $600/shipped for 1000rds, if anyone is interested. Just ordered a case
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if you load your own, its approx $360 to make 1k that will outshoot BH.





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Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
11/4/2016 1:42:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Knurled AEM5 was just form 3'd!
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11/4/2016 2:23:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:


ok, lets play


<a href="https://postimg.org/image/4cj5bov5f/" target="_blank">https://s13.postimg.org/8lnvduyev/PSX_20161028_230915.jpg</a>


   
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ok, lets play


<a href="https://postimg.org/image/4cj5bov5f/" target="_blank">https://s13.postimg.org/8lnvduyev/PSX_20161028_230915.jpg</a>


   


Which suppressor cover is that? I've been thinking about one for my AEM5
11/4/2016 4:50:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Did Stick ever drop his bomb in here?

Also this thread isn't even a month old and I can't see any pics in OP.

My heart says to build a H but my wallet is screaming no.

PRI has a 10% off sale right now if anyone needs parts.
11/4/2016 6:03:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Hey guys looking to build a Mod H after seeing Blues and bunch of other guys set ups on facebook and instagram.  I plan on this being a long term project.  I know there has been a lot of discussion of barrels, but I just want some clarification.

BA (223 Wylde SPR) and Bison (223 Wylde SPR) are all barrels you guys recommend that are off the shelf more or less.  If I want a Douglas barrel,I have to custom order it either from them or from high caliber sales  But no matter which barrel I choose, I will have to get it re-profiled to fit the Ops brake and collar?  The re-profiling is more or less what I am a little confused about.  I will probably pick up a BA barrel, but I am curious about doing a 300 Blackout with a Bison barrel.  Any help is much appreciated.  Thanks guys.

11/4/2016 6:11:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TexasTerror:
Did Stick ever drop his bomb in here?

Also this thread isn't even a month old and I can't see any pics in OP.

My heart says to build a H but my wallet is screaming no.

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What bomb is that?

Photofuckit has been screwy today, so that's probably why the pics are down.
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11/4/2016 6:14:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alshooter1526:
Hey guys looking to build a Mod H after seeing Blues and bunch of other guys set ups on facebook and instagram.  I plan on this being a long term project.  I know there has been a lot of discussion of barrels, but I just want some clarification.

BA (223 Wylde SPR) and Bison (223 Wylde SPR) are all barrels you guys recommend that are off the shelf more or less.  If I want a Douglas barrel,I have to custom order it either from them or from high caliber sales  But no matter which barrel I choose, I will have to get it re-profiled to fit the Ops brake and collar?  The re-profiling is more or less what I am a little confused about.  I will probably pick up a BA barrel, but I am curious about doing a 300 Blackout with a Bison barrel.  Any help is much appreciated.  Thanks guys.

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If you get the correct BA barrel,  it will be contoured properly for the Ops Inc brake and collar. The Douglas should be also. No clue on the Bison.
11/4/2016 6:16:30 PM EDT
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postimage stays for years. REPOST EM!






BA barrels that are correct say "profiled for ops collars" in the description.




and its a multicam camo wrap from cabelas or gander mtn. its not for high heat but i like it. i gotta paint it soon to match. it takes paint well. its like self cling wrap.
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Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
11/4/2016 6:22:34 PM EDT
[#45]
Awesome thanks guys.  Which WOA barrel do yall have?  Is it the 16" SDM?
11/4/2016 7:07:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
postimage stays for years. REPOST EM!



BA barrels that are correct say "profiled for ops collars" in the description.


and its a multicam camo wrap from cabelas or gander mtn. its not for high heat but i like it. i gotta paint it soon to match. it takes paint well. its like self cling wrap.
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I'll do that tomorrow.  They are currently with photobucket which I hate.  I haven't deleted the photos or messed with them it's a photobucket issue.  The site says its down for maintenace

11/4/2016 7:08:56 PM EDT
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If you get the correct BA barrel,  it will be contoured properly for the Ops Inc brake and collar. The Douglas should be also. No clue on the Bison.
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Originally Posted By Alshooter1526:
Hey guys looking to build a Mod H after seeing Blues and bunch of other guys set ups on facebook and instagram.  I plan on this being a long term project.  I know there has been a lot of discussion of barrels, but I just want some clarification.

BA (223 Wylde SPR) and Bison (223 Wylde SPR) are all barrels you guys recommend that are off the shelf more or less.  If I want a Douglas barrel,I have to custom order it either from them or from high caliber sales  But no matter which barrel I choose, I will have to get it re-profiled to fit the Ops brake and collar?  The re-profiling is more or less what I am a little confused about.  I will probably pick up a BA barrel, but I am curious about doing a 300 Blackout with a Bison barrel.  Any help is much appreciated.  Thanks guys.



If you get the correct BA barrel,  it will be contoured properly for the Ops Inc brake and collar. The Douglas should be also. No clue on the Bison.


The bison is good to go also.  Honestly they will both shoot great, find the one that's cheapest and in stock
11/4/2016 7:13:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TexasTerror:
Did Stick ever drop his bomb in here?

Also this thread isn't even a month old and I can't see any pics in OP.

My heart says to build a H but my wallet is screaming no.

PRI has a 10% off sale right now if anyone needs parts.
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Just ordered a dark earth hand guard with a long bottom rail
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11/4/2016 7:26:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:

Just ordered a dark earth hand guard with a long bottom rail
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Originally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By TexasTerror:
Did Stick ever drop his bomb in here?

Also this thread isn't even a month old and I can't see any pics in OP.

My heart says to build a H but my wallet is screaming no.

PRI has a 10% off sale right now if anyone needs parts.

Just ordered a dark earth hand guard with a long bottom rail


That a baby!  Your going to love it.  Really compared to all the other clones it's not too expensive of a build.
11/4/2016 7:30:55 PM EDT
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Does the Bison need to be re-profiled?  I may just call up High Caliber Sales ha.

Thanks guys.

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