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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:21:55 PM EDT
What's the consensus on Swampfox? Decent or trash?
I'm looking at this for my first budget LPVO: https://aimsurplus.com/products/swampfox-arrowhead-series-1-10x24-sfp-red-ir-mil-riflescope Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:49:34 PM EDT
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I have the Tomahawk 1-8 sfp. Its great at 1x. Pretty shit at 8x, but managable on a bench. Good intro into lpvo's. I liked it way more than the Vortex's I compared it to.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:51:48 PM EDT
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No different than Sig, Holosun, etc. Chinesium crap
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:55:59 PM EDT
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I don’t have any of their scopes yet but I’m very happy with my swampfox prisms.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:48:59 PM EDT
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Almost as good as primary arms.
They used to have some really cool products, but seem to have turned into a primary arms clone shop like monstrum and those types. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:19:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wvfarrier: No different than Sig, Holosun, etc. Chinesium crap ^That. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:35:09 AM EDT
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I have their 3x prism on an 300 aac AR and two of their green dots on .22 bolt guns. Quite happy with both models.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 1:00:20 AM EDT
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I have a bunch of their stuff. I’m quite happy with it, but my serious pistols have RMRs. They had some amazing Black Friday deals in the past.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:40:49 AM EDT
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It was supposedly started by someone who was fired from Primary Arms for good reason. It is more low end Chinese crap.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:44:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hydrostatic_cling: It was supposedly started by someone who was fired from Primary Arms for good reason. It is more low end Chinese crap. Mike did not start Swampfox optics, he was employed by them. I have an arrowhead 1-10. Its been a decent scope. Was better then the gen 1 strike eagle. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:40:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBOOT99: I have the Tomahawk 1-8 sfp. Its great at 1x. Pretty shit at 8x, but managable on a bench. Good intro into lpvo's. I liked it way more than the Vortex's I compared it to. With the lesser expensive LPVO's I would stop @ 6x because of this. The glass, light and eyebox are shit when you get up there. If I need more than 6x on top, I will move to an MPVO for the larger objective. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:39:46 AM EDT
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Never owned one, but I always hear good things about their Arrowhead and Kentucky Long optics. I wouldn’t be against trying one on a lower-importance build. I’m sure it’d do fine assuming you know what you’re buying.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:42:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: With the lesser expensive LPVO's I would stop @ 6x because of this. The glass, light and eyebox are shit when you get up there. If I need more than 6x on top, I will move to an MPVO for the larger objective. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Originally Posted By GBOOT99: I have the Tomahawk 1-8 sfp. Its great at 1x. Pretty shit at 8x, but managable on a bench. Good intro into lpvo's. I liked it way more than the Vortex's I compared it to. With the lesser expensive LPVO's I would stop @ 6x because of this. The glass, light and eyebox are shit when you get up there. If I need more than 6x on top, I will move to an MPVO for the larger objective. Even on expensive LPVOs they start to fall apart at 8+. There are some I trust to stretch to 8, but I agree if you find yourself reaching up there often, one should probably just opt for a MPVO. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:43:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: With the lesser expensive LPVO's I would stop @ 6x because of this. The glass, light and eyebox are shit when you get up there. If I need more than 6x on top, I will move to an MPVO for the larger objective. I have the Arrowhead 1-8 and have memorized the lever position at 6x so I don't turn it past that. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 5:48:53 PM EDT
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I tried a couple of their prism scopes and immediately got rid of them because the glass quality is terrible
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:51:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: I tried a couple of their prism scopes and immediately got rid of them because the glass quality is terrible I've had no issues with their glass. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 9:07:54 PM EDT
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I have the patriot 6-24x50 scope, it’s not bad and not great. But it does fine below 24x.
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USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 9:29:08 PM EDT
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I like their optic screw packs
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:07:31 PM EDT
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Owned an Arrowhead 1-8x, my only complaint was the reticle (they didn’t offer the mil reticle in the 1-8x at the time). Much better glass than a Strike Eagle and the early PA SLX line. The 1-8x has a 1x FOV of 122’. Only got rid of it because someone offered me an XPS2 on trade.
Still have a Kentucky Long 2-12x and it’s been one of my favorite scopes considering price to value ratio. A buddy has a KL 5-30x that is absolute trash above ~20x. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:51:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCR556: I've had no issues with their glass. If all you know is mediocre Chinese glass, it’s undoubtedly fine. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:52:22 PM EDT
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Mediocre OEM ChiCom optics with the most annoying internet influencers and marketing imaginable.
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NM, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:55:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By John91498: What's the consensus on Swampfox? Decent or trash? I'm looking at this for my first budget LPVO: https://aimsurplus.com/products/swampfox-arrowhead-series-1-10x24-sfp-red-ir-mil-riflescope Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I looked at one a while back and thought it was pretty decent budget LPVO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzBztbzxGxQ ILya |
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USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:58:08 PM EDT
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No experience with their scopes, but most everyone who owns one seems to be happy.
Have 2 of their pistol optics, very happy with them. They've withstood everything I've put them through. Not all of us are ARFCOM high-rollers who can afford to put 2,000 dollar optics on everything, so it's nice to have decent options we can actually afford, that increase our own individual capability. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:07:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45-Seventy: Mediocre OEM ChiCom optics with the most annoying internet influencers and marketing imaginable. Never seen or heard a single ad from them. When I bought the prism the only way I knew the company existed was because a clearance deal showed up on my Amazon deals listing. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John-in-austin: Never seen or heard a single ad from them. When I bought the prism the only way I knew the company existed was because a clearance deal showed up on my Amazon deals listing. Consider yourself lucky you were blissfully unaware of the whole “SWAMPFOX IS SOCOM APPROVED” thing because they sent a scope to some tabbed dudes who dragged it out to the HESCO barriers for a couple pictures. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 10:59:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45-Seventy: Consider yourself lucky you were blissfully unaware of the whole “SWAMPFOX IS SOCOM APPROVED” thing because they sent a scope to some tabbed dudes who dragged it out to the HESCO barriers for a couple pictures. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45-Seventy: Originally Posted By John-in-austin: Never seen or heard a single ad from them. When I bought the prism the only way I knew the company existed was because a clearance deal showed up on my Amazon deals listing. Consider yourself lucky you were blissfully unaware of the whole “SWAMPFOX IS SOCOM APPROVED” thing because they sent a scope to some tabbed dudes who dragged it out to the HESCO barriers for a couple pictures. I'm not sure it was even tabbed dudes. It may have been support personnel attached. Either way they wouldn't clarify. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:01:36 PM EDT
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I tried them out due to the substantial .mil discount. All the LPVOs went down the road fairly quickly. I think I still have 2 of their red dots.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 11:14:07 PM EDT
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Geez doom and gloom here, that said nothing to really write home about they are what they are. Had a few and moved on, their CS is outstanding, and price wise the military discount when items are on sale is hard to beat.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 1:25:52 PM EDT
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I have a couple of their red dots on .22 pistols, I had one issue and they upgraded it to a newer model at no cost to me. I probably wouldn’t take their stuff to combat, but works fine for banging steel with a couple of .22’s.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45-Seventy: If all you know is mediocre Chinese glass, it’s undoubtedly fine. It is a matter of expectations. I have some expensive optics and some not-so-expensive. I don't expect to see $2000 glass in a $300 optic. It becomes a question of value for money and IMO Swampfox delivers. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCR556: It is a matter of expectations. I have some expensive optics and some not-so-expensive. I don't expect to see $2000 glass in a $300 optic. It becomes a question of value for money and IMO Swampfox delivers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCR556: Originally Posted By 45-Seventy: If all you know is mediocre Chinese glass, it’s undoubtedly fine. It is a matter of expectations. I have some expensive optics and some not-so-expensive. I don't expect to see $2000 glass in a $300 optic. It becomes a question of value for money and IMO Swampfox delivers. Concur. ACOGs on my primaries and Swampfox and others on secondary. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:41:17 PM EDT
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these are mostly for range toys
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:00:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45-Seventy: Consider yourself lucky you were blissfully unaware of the whole “SWAMPFOX IS SOCOM APPROVED” thing because they sent a scope to some tabbed dudes who dragged it out to the HESCO barriers for a couple pictures. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45-Seventy: Originally Posted By John-in-austin: Never seen or heard a single ad from them. When I bought the prism the only way I knew the company existed was because a clearance deal showed up on my Amazon deals listing. Consider yourself lucky you were blissfully unaware of the whole “SWAMPFOX IS SOCOM APPROVED” thing because they sent a scope to some tabbed dudes who dragged it out to the HESCO barriers for a couple pictures. I remember that. He had a thread here with a bunch of pics with them supposedly training with the Arrowhead 1-10x, and one of them on a Scar 17, saying how great it was holding up. I did have a Arrow 1-10x myself for a bit as a placeholder and it was not too shabby, but common man! Also when the 1-10 first came out he claimed that some swat unit was thrilled with them, and were going to use them. There were a bunch of pics of that too  He as a new company now, but not sure if he's just partnering with them or owner. He has a youtube vid from shotshow I think. In the vid he was talking the same spiel as he was when he was with swampfox. "Almost as good as high-end optics, and for the working man, bla bla bla. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:12:02 AM EDT
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On a more general note, a lot of dudes will choose an optic based on whatever the military or their favorite operator is using so you can see why Swampfox would want to follow that social media trend.
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USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:26:52 PM EDT
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I picked up an Arrowhead 1x6 and it works for me. Mainly because I am not an operator, their first responder discount was great, and because everyone seemed to like the guy who came from PSA...
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: On a more general note, a lot of dudes will choose an optic based on whatever the military or their favorite operator is using so you can see why Swampfox would want to follow that social media trend. In reality, 99.99% of us will never need an "operator" level optic. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 12:28:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCR556: In reality, 99.99% of us will never need an "operator" level optic. Makes no difference to me, personally, but a lot of dudes will buy just based off that |
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