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12/8/2022 5:35:36 PM EDT
PSA JAKL 300 Blackout Pistol, Black
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12/8/2022 5:48:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Nice!
12/8/2022 6:55:02 PM EDT
[#2]
That be sexy!
12/9/2022 12:10:12 PM EDT
[#3]
In stock now.

I want just the upper and BHO...
12/9/2022 1:05:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Just bought mine, I love that it is an 8.5" barrel, not a 7.5" like discussed earlier...Oh joy...Now, going to go buy an ADM UIC lower, and I will mod the bolt catch by making it thinner, and I will have a full ambi 300BO JAKL...next to form 1 and then get a can...Hell yey what a christmas present...I got woken up by the email they were in stock...I am going back to bed...

It is time for the tree to be refreshed.
12/9/2022 2:15:39 PM EDT
[#5]
So awesome!

...waiting for OD model here.
12/9/2022 2:24:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Fancy
12/9/2022 6:34:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Just put my order in!
12/9/2022 9:26:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Does anyone happen to know if the upper went in and out of stock, or are we still waiting on it to drop?
12/9/2022 10:27:48 PM EDT
[#9]
How much was it?
12/9/2022 10:48:38 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
How much was it?
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I want to say $1099.  I saw it in stock earlier, but I see it is OOS again.

I want to take a look at just the upper.....yesterday I ordered an ARIC for one of my LAW folders, so either way, I was going to be able to fire a 300blk upper without a buffer tube.
12/9/2022 11:32:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Cock! Just picked up a 223 version cause I’m impatient
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12/10/2022 2:33:31 AM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
How much was it?
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The pistol was $1,099.99...Shipping $17, and tax 92.12, for a total of $1,209.11...
It is time for the tree to be refreshed.
12/10/2022 2:39:33 AM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By panthermark:

I want to say $1099.  I saw it in stock earlier, but I see it is OOS again.

I want to take a look at just the upper.....yesterday I ordered an ARIC for one of my LAW folders, so either way, I was going to be able to fire a 300blk upper without a buffer tube.
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@panthermark

Let us know how that thing works for you...I hope it will work great, as it offers us all another way to not be stuck with a damn buffer tube...God bless their little hearts...

Merry Christmas.
It is time for the tree to be refreshed.
12/10/2022 5:43:59 AM EDT
[#14]
I've only just heard of these.  So they are pistol only?   And the picture isn't that clear, but I guess it's an "arm brace" type rear appendage?   (I won't use the S word)   Like a SB brace?  And it folds?  
PSA sure keeps coming out with a lot of cool stuff.
12/10/2022 5:49:57 AM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By brian1:
I've only just heard of these.  So they are pistol only?   And the picture isn't that clear, but I guess it's an "arm brace" type rear appendage?   (I won't use the S word)   Like a SB brace?  And it folds?  
PSA sure keeps coming out with a lot of cool stuff.
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Its funny, but its like they listen to their customers, and then build products their customers ask for, and when they make it, amazingly, the product is popular and sells..

How do they keep bringing out one popular product, after another popular product...Voodoo, must be Voodoo...

It is time for the tree to be refreshed.
12/12/2022 10:38:52 AM EDT
[#16]
Damn... in the cart for the upper, and out of stock by the time I got to checkout.

Sucks.
12/12/2022 10:55:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KYB762][Edited] [#17]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:
Damn... in the cart for the upper, and out of stock by the time I got to checkout.

Sucks.
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Yeah, got the in stock email and logged in less than a minute later OOS.

Might just buy another 5.56, pull that barrel and drop a 300 in it.
12/12/2022 11:24:47 AM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By KYB762:

Yeah, got the in stock email and logged in less than a minute later OOS.

Might just buy another 5.56, pull that barrel and drop a 300 in it.
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You would end up with the longer HG, plus it's a proprietary barrel.

I was right on it, and probably would have got it if my cart didn't dump the required buffer assembly. I had to search that back up.
12/12/2022 1:23:53 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:


You would end up with the longer HG, plus it's a proprietary barrel.

I was right on it, and probably would have got it if my cart didn't dump the required buffer assembly. I had to search that back up.
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Handguard might not be a problem as I prefer a bit more real estate out front.

But proprietary you say? As in press fit or not a barrel extension like the AR? Or just standard/metric barrel threads into a trunnion block?
12/12/2022 2:50:52 PM EDT
[#20]
It is not an AR barrel at all, the port will be a different location and size, the 5.56 Piston is longer, and the gas block is different, and... what you describe will simply not work.

12/12/2022 3:52:17 PM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:
It is not an AR barrel at all, the port will be a different location and size, the 5.56 Piston is longer, and the gas block is different, and... what you describe will simply not work.

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Good to know
12/12/2022 4:27:57 PM EDT
[#22]
Does anyone know how much PSA is asking for the .300 blk upper?
12/12/2022 4:31:12 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By BorderDave:
Does anyone know how much PSA is asking for the .300 blk upper?
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It was $650 and some kind of "SAVE 5%" thing popped up during checkout.

The buffer is a little pricey at $100.

I'm hoping they do daily dumps like Primary Arms, and I'll get it next time.
12/13/2022 10:55:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kalashnikev101][Edited] [#24]
Looks like I got it today, but missed out on the deals.

Was TENOFF working for the upper?

Funny- I just spoke with Customer Service and they will not adjust it, so I asked if I could place a new order with the code and cancel the one I made 3 minutes ago.

They said, "No we cannot we can cancel the order and issue a refund."

So... cancellation does not exist in PSA world?

I'm already getting a bad feeling about this, but will post a review when I get it.


OK, GTG... I don't think there are any coupons on these.
12/15/2022 1:44:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Checking in on folks that have these in their hands.  How are they running?

12/16/2022 12:25:18 AM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By panthermark:
Checking in on folks that have these in their hands.  How are they running?

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I just got my shipping notice today, will be at my FFL on 12/22/22...

It is time for the tree to be refreshed.
12/16/2022 9:20:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Excited to see detailed reviews, especially those that are shoot suppressed.
12/24/2022 3:03:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Why did they do a 1:8 twist barrel? 1:7 seems more popular, especially for shooting subs.
12/26/2022 11:44:31 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By tatsngats:
Why did they do a 1:8 twist barrel? 1:7 seems more popular, especially for shooting subs.
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1:8 is the perfect all around twist rate, and you'll soon find that you shoot way more supers than subs if you start getting into .300 BLK.

1:7 is also good, but leans towards subs.
12/27/2022 1:13:03 AM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:


1:8 is the perfect all around twist rate, and you'll soon find that you shoot way more supers than subs if you start getting into .300 BLK.

1:7 is also good, but leans towards subs.
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Interesting. That doesn’t seem to be the consensus. When I asked which twist I should go with, everyone was quick to chime in with 1:7.
12/29/2022 1:10:09 AM EDT
[#31]
My 300BO just arrived.
12/29/2022 11:15:44 AM EDT
[#32]
That looks so sick!
12/29/2022 9:14:26 PM EDT
[#33]
How does the weight of the 300 BLK Jakl compare to a 300 BLK MCX?
12/30/2022 7:23:11 AM EDT
[#34]
I wonder why the 5.56mm JAKL's got winter trigger guards, and the 300BO got the standard junk trigger guard???
Merry Christmas
12/30/2022 1:09:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Definitely on the watch list! Love that PSA is innovating and providing affordable quality options.  Cant wait to get one see how this works suppressed.
12/30/2022 1:10:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Well done, nice choice on the optics..
12/30/2022 1:37:57 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By regalgseguy:
My 300BO just arrived.
https://i.imgur.com/elhwz6L.jpg
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That looks pretty darn good! I hope they sell a lot of these.

I just looked at the FDE version and it looks like the SCAR at home has better color match than the actual SCAR!
12/30/2022 4:58:19 PM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By tatsngats:

Interesting. That doesn’t seem to be the consensus. When I asked which twist I should go with, everyone was quick to chime in with 1:7.
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They probably thought you were asking about 5.56.

The correct answers for 300 BLK are:

1:9 - leaning towards supers
1:8 - best compromise
1:7 - leaning towards subs
1:6 - subs ONLY, and long ones at that
1:5 - completely useless... unless you count monolithic projectiles, which nobody uses

1:8 has been proven to give the best performance over the widest variety of .300 since the Whisper days when everything was an experiment.

Consider that the decision with 30-30 is 1:12 for mostly round nose (shorter) or 1:10 normal.

An AKM is 1:9.5.

With .308 rifles and the same weight/length question, ideal ranges from 1:12 to 1:10.

These are all with similar weight/ length to .300 supers. The long heavy subs are why we use faster twists.
12/30/2022 8:21:45 PM EDT
[#39]
These would sell even better with a Rattler shorty configuration say in a very short 5.5" barrel or so

12/30/2022 9:33:55 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:


They probably thought you were asking about 5.56.

The correct answers for 300 BLK are:

1:9 - leaning towards supers
1:8 - best compromise
1:7 - leaning towards subs
1:6 - subs ONLY, and long ones at that
1:5 - completely useless... unless you count monolithic projectiles, which nobody uses

1:8 has been proven to give the best performance over the widest variety of .300 since the Whisper days when everything was an experiment.

Consider that the decision with 30-30 is 1:12 for mostly round nose (shorter) or 1:10 normal.

An AKM is 1:9.5.

With .308 rifles and the same weight/length question, ideal ranges from 1:12 to 1:10.

These are all with similar weight/ length to .300 supers. The long heavy subs are why we use faster twists.
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Nope. 100% it was about 300 blackout. 1:7 was the most recommended for a wider array of bullets.
12/31/2022 10:31:32 AM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
These would sell even better with a Rattler shorty configuration say in a very short 5.5" barrel or so

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That's almost 40% shorter than the optimal barrel length for .300 BLK.

It's also below the minimum barrel length in .300 BLK for a lot of suppressors.

12/31/2022 10:34:26 AM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By tatsngats:

Nope. 100% it was about 300 blackout. 1:7 was the most recommended for a wider array of bullets.
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Everyone who gets into .300 BLK quickly realizes that they will shoot more supers than subs many times over.

1:7 leans towards subs, but 1:8 has the widest versatility.
1/6/2023 6:31:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Anyone ran an accuracy test on these?

I really want one to replace my truck gun. But that's an 11.5 with a match barrel. Dropping to a 2.5 MOA or worse gun would be a nonstarter.

Only accurate rifles are interesting...
1/9/2023 3:03:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chevrofreak][Edited] [#44]
PSA really needs to come up with a drop-in heat shield for these.  Shooting suppressed with subs is pretty dirty.
1/12/2023 10:05:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cardboardkiller][Edited] [#45]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:


Everyone who gets into .300 BLK quickly realizes that they will shoot more supers than subs many times over.

1:7 leans towards subs, but 1:8 has the widest versatility.
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Not true at all.

I had a 300 BO SBR that I put about 2,200 rounds through and they were all subs. I never even bought supers for it.

There’s zero reason for me to buy another 300 BO and shoot supers.

If they’d fix the dismal accuracy with the Jackl, I’d buy one in a heartbeat and use it exclusively with subs and suppressed. As it stands now, B&T is getting my money.
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1/15/2023 10:54:20 AM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller:


Not true at all.

I had a 300 BO SBR that I put about 2,200 rounds through and they were all subs. I never even bought supers for it.
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You're an odd duck then.

Everyone ends up shooting more supers than subs- for economics, performance, logistics, etc...
1/15/2023 1:38:04 PM EDT
[#47]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:


You're an odd duck then.

Everyone ends up shooting more supers than subs- for economics, performance, logistics, etc...
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There’s no reason for me to pile on 300 BO and shoot supersonic ammo when I already have more than half a dozen SBR’s with dedicated suppressors in supersonic cartridges. It’d be a waste and I’m not the only one that has done it or is doing it.

You keep saying “everyone ends up shooting more supers than subs” and it completely isn’t true.
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FBHO, FNSA, FNFA, FIRS, FDOJ, FFSA, FATF
1/16/2023 2:48:09 PM EDT
[#48]
Yeah, I got a 300 blackout specifically because I can shoot subs.
1/16/2023 7:45:57 PM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:


You're an odd duck then.

Everyone ends up shooting more supers than subs- for economics, performance, logistics, etc...
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Must be more than one odd duck in here.  

I've got a 300 that has not, and likely will not, ever have a super put through it.

If I want to shoot supers, I've got 5.56 guns for that.
1/16/2023 8:30:12 PM EDT
[#50]
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller:
If they’d fix the dismal accuracy with the Jackl, I’d buy one in a heartbeat and use it exclusively with subs and suppressed. As it stands now, B&T is getting my money.
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Has anyone done accuracy testing yet, other than Mrgunsngear? His test was pretty limited in ammo types and is obviously a sample size of one, I would love to see some more extensive accuracy testing from others with the 5.56 guns.

I’m very close to buying a Jakl, but if accuracy is subpar I’ll probably just stomach the price difference and get an XCR.

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