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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:50:16 PM EST
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OK, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:14:41 PM EST
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Pure sexy.
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USA
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:56:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Citizen904]
[#2]
$1,099 for FDE. Dang, I ordered a black one last week before finding out this was coming. Man I hope my black one has the enhanced trigger guard and grip shown here.
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Posted: 8/18/2022 11:35:19 AM EST
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Still holding out for a pinned and welded rifle version in FDE.
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Posted: 8/18/2022 12:23:24 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 3:44:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By viralinsurgency: Where's the originally promised 300 BLK? Might have to just buy this instead... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/491499/1D72B454-8015-490C-AC65-91E1A6B79FE1_jpe-2493807.JPG It’s in the final phases of testing |
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USA
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Posted: 8/18/2022 5:23:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: Where's the originally promised 300 BLK? Might have to just buy this instead... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/491499/1D72B454-8015-490C-AC65-91E1A6B79FE1_jpe-2493807.JPG What is that? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 5:31:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: What is that? B&T |
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USA
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Posted: 8/18/2022 6:57:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: B&T Ah, nice. Those are big $, right? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 7:19:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Ah, nice. Those are big $, right? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 7:34:32 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 7:35:38 PM EST
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USA
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:19:33 PM EST
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Dang. Every new color has the enhanced trigger guard and better grip? I ordered black 24 hours too early.
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Posted: 8/19/2022 10:41:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Dang. Every new color has the enhanced trigger guard and better grip? I ordered black 24 hours too early. I picked mine up a few weeks ago when it finally showed in stock. I knew immediately I should have waited because better deals/options would be along soon. Sometimes PSA’s pricing confuses me, right now the upper and lower can be purchased separate for almost $100 less than buying the complete gun. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 1:21:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: Citizen904]
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SC, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 1:30:08 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigSouthFork: I picked mine up a few weeks ago when it finally showed in stock. I knew immediately I should have waited because better deals/options would be along soon. Sometimes PSA’s pricing confuses me, right now the upper and lower can be purchased separate for almost $100 less than buying the complete gun. Jman can answer better than I, but that is likely PSA passing the tax savings on to you. Complete rifles have an 11% (iirc) tax added on top. Buying them separately as parts doesn’t incur that tax. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 1:55:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: JAKL arrived to do battle for the ‘ultimate SHTF firearm’ (side charging, folding brace 5.56’s) against the BRN180S, MK15, Bren 2, Galil and inbound P556 and M85NP. https://i.ibb.co/2PLjzy2/BE0-DEF5-A-E595-4-BDC-ADE3-6-C0333-A1-E793.jpg  Awesome post in the making |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 2:10:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: JAKL arrived to do battle for the 'ultimate SHTF firearm' (side charging, folding brace 5.56's) against the BRN180S, MK15, Bren 2, Galil and inbound P556 and M85NP. https://i.ibb.co/2PLjzy2/BE0-DEF5-A-E595-4-BDC-ADE3-6-C0333-A1-E793.jpg Nice collection! |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 9:47:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: JAKL arrived to do battle for the ‘ultimate SHTF firearm’ (side charging, folding brace 5.56’s) against the BRN180S, FM15, Bren 2, Galil and inbound P556 and M85NP. https://i.ibb.co/2PLjzy2/BE0-DEF5-A-E595-4-BDC-ADE3-6-C0333-A1-E793.jpg Very nice. Interested to see how the JAKL compares to the FM15 |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2022 11:43:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWell crap, couldn't resist and bought this. Question now is keep my black Jakl or sell it? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/20/2022 5:37:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By schiffer99: Well crap, couldn't resist and bought this. Question now is keep my black Jakl or sell it? Yeah, I’m in the same boat. I would’ve gone with the FDE, ODG or Smoke had I known. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 4:12:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: JAKL arrived to do battle for the ‘ultimate SHTF firearm’ (side charging, folding brace 5.56’s) against the BRN180S, FM15, Bren 2, Galil and inbound P556 and M85NP. Nice. Which sub-forum are you going to post updates on your comparison/assessment? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:01:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Nice. Which sub-forum are you going to post updates on your comparison/assessment? Thx. I’ll probably throw a link up in every sub forum that applies from Sig to Galil, etc. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:26:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Thx. I’ll probably throw a link up in every sub forum that applies from Sig to Galil, etc. Awesome. Super interested to hear your take! |
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USA
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Posted: 8/22/2022 9:27:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: Citizen904]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: Awesome. Super interested to hear your take! Thx. I’m excited to shoot them all back to back. I can say the JAKL is a stout little beast. With that super light brace, it’s very front heavy. Switched the braces from the bottom two in the pic to better balance it. 
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Posted: 8/25/2022 6:35:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 45FMJoe]
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Does anyone know if the smoke, ODG and FDE is actually anodizing colors or Cerakote?
@Palmettostatearmory @Jman_JJE |
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USA
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Posted: 8/26/2022 4:51:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: Awesome. Super interested to hear your take! The gangs all here. I’ve got to get some modern braces on a couple then I’ll start running these against each other. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2022 5:15:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: The gangs all here. I’ve got to get some modern braces on a couple then I’ll start running these against each other. https://i.ibb.co/qyk4dW0/916-BE7-F5-7726-42-F7-9954-7-A70173579-C1.jpg Looking excellent. I have a jakl now on the way to compete with my brn and fm15. I'll share some notes too. Where did you get that g36 looking handguard for your brn? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/26/2022 7:39:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: Citizen904]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: Looking excellent. I have a jakl now on the way to compete with my brn and fm15. I'll share some notes too. Where did you get that g36 looking handguard for your brn? You can use the real ones from hkparts.com but honestly it’s easier and cheaper to modify an airsoft version since it’s just a heat shield in this application. Black one is real HK, FDE from evilke: 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/27/2022 7:12:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: The gangs all here. I've got to get some modern braces on a couple then I'll start running these against each other. https://i.ibb.co/qyk4dW0/916-BE7-F5-7726-42-F7-9954-7-A70173579-C1.jpg Speaking of FM15, I know it was just a photo OP but ya might want to flip the 510c on your FM15 around before you shoot it 
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USA
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Posted: 8/27/2022 2:32:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Damn! nice collection! I ordered a JAKL FDE kit yesterday(have a billet lower for it) I'm curious to see how it compares to my 11.5" FM15. I will say, I really like the FM15. Mine was an early gen2 without adjustable GB, I added one. Shoots much smoother both suppressed and unsuppressed. Speaking of FM15, I know it was just a photo OP but ya might want to flip the 510c on your FM15 around before you shoot it Ha, yes I had just opened it and set it there (unmounted) for the pic and realized my mistake after. I made a preview for my comparison test (video making practice basically).  Preview - Ultimate SHTF Gun Comparison Test: JAKL, FM15, BRN180S, P556, Galil Ace, Bren 2, M85NP |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:00:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Damn! nice collection! I ordered a JAKL FDE kit yesterday(have a billet lower for it) I'm curious to see how it compares to my 11.5" FM15. I will say, I really like the FM15. Mine was an early gen2 without adjustable GB, I added one. Shoots much smoother both suppressed and unsuppressed. Speaking of FM15, I know it was just a photo OP but ya might want to flip the 510c on your FM15 around before you shoot it I know this is a jakl forum but i also have a 11.5fm15 and your posted prompted a few questions! How did you install an adjustable gas block on it? That'd be a huge help for mine. Was pretty unimpressed with the gasout with it suppressed. Mine has had some teething problems through the first 200 (lots of short stroking on brass) that seem to be smoothing out, but the charging action is still super gritty/coarse. Compared to a BRN its night and day. Is that your experience as well? TIA! |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:03:23 AM EST
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Looking forward to the comparison vid
 I should have my JAKL kit next sometime next week. I'm curious to see how it stacks up to the FM15. I'd have an 11" BREN 2 in the mix as well, I like everything about that gun except the grip... the fact it's not replaceable is the only thing that's kept me from buying one. I'm also not going to spend $350 for Haga's lower just to have grip I like, especially considering it's already a 2K gun 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:26:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: shultz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: I know this is a jakl forum but i also have a 11.5fm15 and your posted prompted a few questions! How did you install an adjustable gas block on it? That'd be a huge help for mine. Was pretty unimpressed with the gasout with it suppressed. Mine has had some teething problems through the first 200 (lots of short stroking on brass) that seem to be smoothing out, but the charging action is still super gritty/coarse. Compared to a BRN its night and day. Is that your experience as well? TIA! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: Originally Posted By shultz: Damn! nice collection! I ordered a JAKL FDE kit yesterday(have a billet lower for it) I'm curious to see how it compares to my 11.5" FM15. I will say, I really like the FM15. Mine was an early gen2 without adjustable GB, I added one. Shoots much smoother both suppressed and unsuppressed. Speaking of FM15, I know it was just a photo OP but ya might want to flip the 510c on your FM15 around before you shoot it I know this is a jakl forum but i also have a 11.5fm15 and your posted prompted a few questions! How did you install an adjustable gas block on it? That'd be a huge help for mine. Was pretty unimpressed with the gasout with it suppressed. Mine has had some teething problems through the first 200 (lots of short stroking on brass) that seem to be smoothing out, but the charging action is still super gritty/coarse. Compared to a BRN its night and day. Is that your experience as well? TIA! replaced it with an AERO adjustable GB, reused the GT as well. The set screws landed right on top of the pin cuts in the barrel. I just used a little rocksett and torqued the set screws to 30 inch lb. It has not budged in 4-500 rds and I don't expect it ever will...You might try contacting FM. The new uppers are shipping with a 3 position AGB. This should pin in place of the existing GB. HOWEVER, I choked off my gas considerably, one of the 3 positions might be better than nothing but still not well gassed IMHO.. No teething issues with mine, other than a few failures to lock open when adjusting the new GB It's not choked. I probably have about 700rds thru it now. As for charging, yep mine was gritty as well. pull the HG, clean it and the CH rod. I used oil at first, it was better but still not great. cleaning off the oil and using dry lube did the trick. Also, if you're not already, lube the recoil spring. Between these two, charging is MUCH smoother. If you have any other FM15 related questions, please feel free to PM. I'll probably use a dry lube on the charging sliding bits for the JAKL as well. I'll also lube the recoil spring.. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2022 1:06:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: Pretty simple. I just drifted out the GB pins. surprisingly, the GB came off pretty easily, they usually don't after a few hundred rds replaced it with an AERO adjustable GB, reused the GT as well. The set screws landed right on top of the pin cuts in the barrel. I just used a little rocksett and torqued the set screws to 30 inch lb. It has not budged in 4-500 rds and I don't expect it ever will...You might try contacting FM. The new uppers are shipping with a 3 position AGB. This should pin in place of the existing GB. HOWEVER, I choked off my gas considerably, one of the 3 positions might be better than nothing but still not well gassed IMHO.. No teething issues with mine, other than a few failures to lock open when adjusting the new GB It's not choked. I probably have about 700rds thru it now. As for charging, yep mine was gritty as well. pull the HG, clean it and the CH rod. I used oil at first, it was better but still not great. cleaning off the oil and using dry lube did the trick. Also, if you're not already, lube the recoil spring. Between these two, charging is MUCH smoother. If you have any other FM15 related questions, please feel free to PM. I'll probably use a dry lube on the charging sliding bits for the JAKL as well. I'll also lube the recoil spring.. I reached out to them and they said they do plan on offering retrofitable AGBs for older fm15s, which is cool. Honestly though if you got an ar15 AGB to work, I might just buy a superlative bleedoff for it. That'd be a hell of a combo. Thanks for the info! |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 8:42:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45FMJoe: Does anyone know if the smoke, ODG and FDE is actually anodizing colors or Cerakote? @Palmettostatearmory @Jman_JJE |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 8:54:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: Curious as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: Originally Posted By 45FMJoe: Does anyone know if the smoke, ODG and FDE is actually anodizing colors or Cerakote? @Palmettostatearmory @Jman_JJE It is a Teflon coating. Thank you, Josiah |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:15:40 AM EST
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@Palmettostatearmory
@Jman_JJE Will these JAKL uppers work with a full auto lower? |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:39:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: It is a Teflon coating. Thank you, Josiah Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Originally Posted By HappyCamel: Originally Posted By 45FMJoe: Does anyone know if the smoke, ODG and FDE is actually anodizing colors or Cerakote? @Palmettostatearmory @Jman_JJE It is a Teflon coating. Thank you, Josiah |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 8:20:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: PalmettoStateArmory]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: @Palmettostatearmory @Jman_JJE Will these JAKL uppers work with a full auto lower? They will work with a binary trigger, but not a full auto lower. Thank you, Josiah |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 3:44:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: It is a Teflon coating. Thank you, Josiah Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Originally Posted By HappyCamel: Originally Posted By 45FMJoe: Does anyone know if the smoke, ODG and FDE is actually anodizing colors or Cerakote? @Palmettostatearmory @Jman_JJE It is a Teflon coating. Thank you, Josiah I received my OD green jakl. I haven’t started abusing it yet to see how the finish holds up… but initial impressions are EXCELLENT. It looks awesome |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 4:45:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryPicked one of these up today. Looking forward to getting it to the range tomorrow. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 5:29:04 PM EST
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Damn, you guys are gonna make me buy one of these. Only problem is I can't decide if I want to hold out for 300 blk though.
Guess in true arf fashion, I'll just have to get both.
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:10:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By schiffer99: I received my OD green jakl. I haven't started abusing it yet to see how the finish holds up but initial impressions are EXCELLENT. It looks awesome |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:01:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MallNinja531: Damn, you guys are gonna make me buy one of these. Only problem is I can't decide if I want to hold out for 300 blk though. Guess in true arf fashion, I'll just have to get both. Do it. Shot mine today. This is going to be a very fun little gun. We'll see how it holds up long term. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2022 7:56:39 PM EST
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I should have stuck with anodized black....
This FDE is not like any other shade of FDE I've seen. Looks more mustard brown to me. Mine has some shiny spots where the coating is missing so no anodizing underneath from the looks of it. Overall, the "FDE" finish is disappointing. As long as it shoots good, I'll deal with my poor finish choice
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2022 8:47:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: I should have stuck with anodized black.... This FDE is not like any other shade of FDE I've seen. Looks more mustard brown to me. Mine has some shiny spots where the coating is missing so no anodizing underneath from the looks of it. Overall, the "FDE" finish is disappointing. As long as it shoots good, I'll deal with my poor finish choice Rattlecan time! |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2022 9:12:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: Rattlecan time! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: Originally Posted By shultz: I should have stuck with anodized black.... This FDE is not like any other shade of FDE I've seen. Looks more mustard brown to me. Mine has some shiny spots where the coating is missing so no anodizing underneath from the looks of it. Overall, the "FDE" finish is disappointing. As long as it shoots good, I'll deal with my poor finish choice Rattlecan time!
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2022 5:34:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: Picked one of these up today. Looking forward to getting it to the range tomorrow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ5326X2: Picked one of these up today. Looking forward to getting it to the range tomorrow. They had the Smoke kits listed for 629.99 for a while. |
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Posted: 9/7/2022 11:13:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shultz: I should have stuck with anodized black.... This FDE is not like any other shade of FDE I've seen. Looks more mustard brown to me. Mine has some shiny spots where the coating is missing so no anodizing underneath from the looks of it. Overall, the "FDE" finish is disappointing. As long as it shoots good, I'll deal with my poor finish choice Can you please PM me pictures of the finish issues? Thank you, Josiah |
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Posted: 9/7/2022 12:42:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: shultz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Can you please PM me pictures of the finish issues? Thank you, Josiah Would seem i cannot I don't see an option for attaching pictures via PM..Anyway, I'll just post a few here.  Attached File Attached File |
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