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Posted: 12/29/2023 1:53:09 PM EDT
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Any experience with using either of these for refinishing old worn mags or other parts? Is one more durable than the other? They both seem to do the same thing but not sure if one is better than the other. |
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Originally Posted By stickyheat: Any experience with using either of these for refinishing old worn mags or other parts? Is one more durable than the other? They both seem to do the same thing but not sure if one is better than the other. As far as the military specification is concerned, they are the same. Both meet the specifications for MIL-L-23398, Type II solid film lubricant. |
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Originally Posted By stickyheat: Sounds good. I ordered some permaslick. It ain’t cheap that’s for sure. Originally Posted By stickyheat: Originally Posted By vatopa: I used permaslik g on about 50 mags fifteen years ago. They all still look good Sounds good. I ordered some permaslick. It ain’t cheap that’s for sure. @stickyheat Did you get around to re-finishing your mags? I just bought some Permasilk-G, as well. Hope to re-finish some mags next month. |
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The Sandstrom works better if you slightly pre heat the mag bodies prior to coating. Not overly hot or it will dick up the finish. RELATED INFO LINK HERE |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: The Sandstrom works better if you slightly pre heat the mag bodies prior to coating. Not overly hot or it will dick up the finish. RELATED INFO LINK HERE This is true of most spray on paints . . . |
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Originally Posted By lysanderxiii: This is true of most spray on paints . . . Originally Posted By lysanderxiii: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: The Sandstrom works better if you slightly pre heat the mag bodies prior to coating. Not overly hot or it will dick up the finish. RELATED INFO LINK HERE This is true of most spray on paints . . . Very true. |
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In the Refinish Your Own Magazine link it appears that the author, after allowing the magazines to air dry for about 24 hours, popped them into his oven at 300 degrees for an hour to "bake/cure the finish." Just wondering if it is safe to cure magazines in one's oven.  Is this step really necessary??
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04: In the Refinish Your Own Magazine link it appears that the author, after allowing the magazines to air dry for about 24 hours, popped them into his oven at 300 degrees for an hour to "bake/cure the finish." Just wondering if it is safe to cure magazines in one's oven. Is this step really necessary??Nope. I was just playing around. I never tested with and without. I just figured it would not hurt. Good LORD that was a long time ago. 
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04: In the Refinish Your Own Magazine link it appears that the author, after allowing the magazines to air dry for about 24 hours, popped them into his oven at 300 degrees for an hour to "bake/cure the finish." Just wondering if it is safe to cure magazines in one's oven. Is this step really necessary??While it's pretty forgiving good prep makes a difference. Clean the mags with hot water and Dawn or other degreaser then dry completely. A couple of light coats (get some on the inside too) and hit them with a heat gun after they are dry enough to handle. About 180-200ish if I'm using the IR thermometer or "yikes" the the touch seems to really harden it up. ETA: Paint outside and wear a mask |
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Originally Posted By FALARAK: Nope. I was just playing around. I never tested with and without. I just figured it would not hurt. Good LORD that was a long time ago. Originally Posted By FALARAK: Originally Posted By urbankaos04: In the Refinish Your Own Magazine link it appears that the author, after allowing the magazines to air dry for about 24 hours, popped them into his oven at 300 degrees for an hour to "bake/cure the finish." Just wondering if it is safe to cure magazines in one's oven. Is this step really necessary??Nope. I was just playing around. I never tested with and without. I just figured it would not hurt. Good LORD that was a long time ago. Time sure does fly by, doesn’t it? I think I was around 25 when I first came across AR15.com. |
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Originally Posted By cmw: Another vote for Perma-Slik G. While it's pretty forgiving good prep makes a difference. Clean the mags with hot water and Dawn or other degreaser then dry completely. A couple of light coats (get some on the inside too) and hit them with a heat gun after they are dry enough to handle. About 180-200ish if I'm using the IR thermometer or "yikes" the the touch seems to really harden it up. ETA: Paint outside and wear a mask Thanks for the additional information. I really need to re-finish my mags. I got a little sidetracked with life. Don’t feel like buying a heat gun and kinda iffy about using the oven. Attached File Attached File |
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Attached File Attached File Finally got around to doing this. Degreased with Dawn soap, hit them with fine steel wool, dried them outside in the sun, used a heat gun to get mag temp to about 125 degrees, then coated them with a couple of light coats. Letting them cure in the garage and will hit them with the heat gun one last time as per a suggestion in this post. On the very first mag the spray nozzle shot out a wonky thick spray pattern. It corrected itself after. I had fun doing this and the mags look great. |
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22392/IMG_5377_jpeg-3830454.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22392/IMG_5421_jpeg-3830455.JPG Finally got around to doing this. Degreased with Dawn soap, hit them with fine steel wool, dried them outside in the sun, used a heat gun to get mag temp to about 125 degrees, then coated them with a couple of light coats. Letting them cure in the garage and will hit them with the heat gun one last time as per a suggestion in this post. On the very first mag the spray nozzle shot out a wonky thick spray pattern. It corrected itself after. I had fun doing this and the mags look great. |
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Originally Posted By mcantu: nice weekend project. did you do the insides? Originally Posted By mcantu: Originally Posted By urbankaos04: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22392/IMG_5377_jpeg-3830454.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22392/IMG_5421_jpeg-3830455.JPG Finally got around to doing this. Degreased with Dawn soap, hit them with fine steel wool, dried them outside in the sun, used a heat gun to get mag temp to about 125 degrees, then coated them with a couple of light coats. Letting them cure in the garage and will hit them with the heat gun one last time as per a suggestion in this post. On the very first mag the spray nozzle shot out a wonky thick spray pattern. It corrected itself after. I had fun doing this and the mags look great. No, I didn’t try to do that, as I didn’t think it would be possible to get an even coat in there and could possibly cause pooling/running on the exterior. Were you able to coat the inside? |
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Originally Posted By cmw: Another vote for Perma-Slik G. While it's pretty forgiving good prep makes a difference. Clean the mags with hot water and Dawn or other degreaser then dry completely. A couple of light coats (get some on the inside too) and hit them with a heat gun after they are dry enough to handle. About 180-200ish if I'm using the IR thermometer or "yikes" the the touch seems to really harden it up. ETA: Paint outside and wear a mask Originally Posted By cmw: Originally Posted By urbankaos04: In the Refinish Your Own Magazine link it appears that the author, after allowing the magazines to air dry for about 24 hours, popped them into his oven at 300 degrees for an hour to "bake/cure the finish." Just wondering if it is safe to cure magazines in one's oven. Is this step really necessary??While it's pretty forgiving good prep makes a difference. Clean the mags with hot water and Dawn or other degreaser then dry completely. A couple of light coats (get some on the inside too) and hit them with a heat gun after they are dry enough to handle. About 180-200ish if I'm using the IR thermometer or "yikes" the the touch seems to really harden it up. ETA: Paint outside and wear a mask @cmw Any tips on getting an even coat on the inside of the magazine? Or do you just sorta just do a couple of short bursts and hope for the best? |
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A quick spritz down the inside back and front from both the top and bottom would do it. If you're doing a bunch lay the bodies on their sides touching, 4 or more in a layer alternating top to bottom on each layer and one layer to another. You can quickly get the front, and back insides with a quick horizontal spray moving up or down a stack. You really don't need or want much on the inside - not really a coating. If you need a deal on some Magpul GI followers shot me a pm. |
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| I've never used that coating. I have used brownells teflon/moly in an epoxy base. I thinned it and used an air brush to spray it on. Then you let it dry. Bake the part in an oven according to directions. I coated a colt 1991a1 45acp inside and out. It did make the action slicker with additional liquid lube. Be aware that using this stuff leave a small depth of coating and can make close/loose tolerances tighter. |
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Originally Posted By cmw: A quick spritz down the inside back and front from both the top and bottom would do it. If you're doing a bunch lay the bodies on their sides touching, 4 or more in a layer alternating top to bottom on each layer and one layer to another. You can quickly get the front, and back insides with a quick horizontal spray moving up or down a stack. You really don't need or want much on the inside - not really a coating. If you need a deal on some Magpul GI followers shot me a pm. Appreciate the feedback and the offer on the followers; however, I stocked up Magpul followers to refresh these magazines and several others. |
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